EPTSHOUTcraft Invitational 4 - "Colin Smith" - Page 129
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HappyChris
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:10 Wombat_NI wrote: This is a really cool build to throw out in a bo5 occasionally from Grubby, dual forge upgrades have paid off thus far Pretty common build in PvT in the Korean scene. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:11 CosmicSpiral wrote: Mass roach into loss. the upgrades really lost the game imo | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26764 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:11 CosmicSpiral wrote: Pretty common build in PvT in the Korean scene. It's my standard build in PvT, it's pretty common in the matchup in general. Dual Forge and a greedy third is not particularly standard against Zergs anywhere | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:11 JohnMatrix wrote: "omg blink stalkers are op what can zergs do against this >_>" lol John | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:11 JohnMatrix wrote: "omg blink stalkers are op what can zergs do against this >_>" Fungal + upgraded units crush blink stalkers. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Cubeface
965 Posts
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:07 wangstra wrote: Why are they TB fans then? Does he do other work besides SC2? Yes, he does. He got a lot of fans because of wow, for example. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:10 Noocta wrote: 3-2-3 at 20min. wow That's what the upgrades patch buff and chrono can give you. QXC made an excellent post on his teams site about the fact that Chrono doesn't cause a big upgrade advantage, but rather the fact that Terran (or in this case, Zerg) start upgrading later than protoss leads to the disadvantage. If Ret had done a double Evo play he would have barely trailed in upgrades. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:12 Wombat_NI wrote: It's my standard build in PvT, it's pretty common in the matchup in general. Dual Forge and a greedy third is not particularly standard against Zergs anywhere Inca loves to do this if he can determine that the zerg will be playing passive. That or if he's playing Bomber. :D | ||
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jrdn
United States132 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:13 Jacobs Ladder wrote: QXC made an excellent post on his teams site about the fact that Chrono doesn't cause a big upgrade advantage, but rather the fact that Terran (or in this case, Zerg) start upgrading later than protoss leads to the disadvantage. If Ret had done a double Evo play he would have barely trailed in upgrades. Do you have link by any chance? | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:13 Bashion wrote: Yes, he does. He got a lot of fans because of wow, for example. TB make so much money becuase of what he does on youtube that he could buy a small island:D He is extremely popular and gets so many fans to watch starcraft | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:07 Bagi wrote: Why make an unit that is only useful against one single unit in the zerg army when you can just make marines instead? Your wrists hurt? LOLs. I hope you got the reference. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
Here you go. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:07 Bagi wrote: Why make up your mind now on a unit when we aren't even in beta? You can't possible imagine any circumstances where you can incorporate the warhound against zerg? Saying they aren't good against zerg ground is just mindless theorycrafting. Why make an unit that is only useful against one single unit in the zerg army when you can just make marines instead? | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:13 Jacobs Ladder wrote: QXC made an excellent post on his teams site about the fact that Chrono doesn't cause a big upgrade advantage, but rather the fact that Terran (or in this case, Zerg) start upgrading later than protoss leads to the disadvantage. If Ret had done a double Evo play he would have barely trailed in upgrades. Yeah i know. I read the qxc blog. Still impressive that you can get 5 upgrades in 20min. | ||
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betaman
United Kingdom355 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote: a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting If thats the case, you could say TB is "growing e-sports!" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26764 Posts
On January 16 2012 03:13 Jacobs Ladder wrote: QXC made an excellent post on his teams site about the fact that Chrono doesn't cause a big upgrade advantage, but rather the fact that Terran (or in this case, Zerg) start upgrading later than protoss leads to the disadvantage. If Ret had done a double Evo play he would have barely trailed in upgrades. I think the reason it's a viable/standard build PvT isn't just that but more that it's actually viable to build a lot of zealots in the matchup in the early/midgame and get your tech up with the excess gas, possible while off 2 bases. Grubby took an early third in that game double forging because vs Zerg you need a lot of gas-intensive units and higher tech, if you add dual forge upgrades you NEED those extra gases at the third. | ||
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