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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 18:19 GMT
#2581
On January 16 2012 03:17 betaman wrote:
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On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting


If thats the case, you could say TB is "growing e-sports!"


He are. Him and Husky has brought the sc 2 scene huge amount of new fans and thats why it really makes me mad when I see people allways dissing his casting.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 15 2012 18:21 GMT
#2582
On January 16 2012 03:15 nihlon wrote:
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On January 16 2012 03:07 Bagi wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:05 nihlon wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:03 Noocta wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:00 Onos wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bagi wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against any zerg ground unit, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.


We can assume that they will be less population than thors. If you can get 3 for 2 pop, like goliaths most likely, I suspect that they will be better than thors.



Their ground attack will only be good against mechanical unit. Zerg don't have any. :-(

So make more than one type of unit?

Why make an unit that is only useful against one single unit in the zerg army when you can just make marines instead?
Why make up your mind now on a unit when we aren't even in beta? You can't possible imagine any circumstances where you can incorporate the warhound against zerg? Saying they aren't good against zerg ground is just mindless theorycrafting.

Actually I did state in a previous post that it would be no use in its "current state", I'm not expecting it to stay this way because it was obviously a rough first draft of the unit.

However, since there were people speculating how frikkin' strong the unit would be, I was just pointing out that with the information we have it really isn't. I'm not making up my mind about anything, just stating what we know of the unit so far.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 15 2012 18:23 GMT
#2583
On January 16 2012 03:19 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:17 betaman wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting


If thats the case, you could say TB is "growing e-sports!"


He are. Him and Husky has brought the sc 2 scene huge amount of new fans and thats why it really makes me mad when I see people allways dissing his casting.


Totally agree. Both of them are enthusiastic, happy people who work incredibly hard often for very little pay. I really wish they would get the respect they deserve.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 15 2012 18:24 GMT
#2584
wtf i just went to the store for about 25+minutes and almost 40k viewers? :O this is amazing
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 15 2012 18:24 GMT
#2585
On January 16 2012 03:19 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:17 betaman wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting


If thats the case, you could say TB is "growing e-sports!"


He are. Him and Husky has brought the sc 2 scene huge amount of new fans and thats why it really makes me mad when I see people allways dissing his casting.

well, he could have bad casting and at the same time bring in a lot of people.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 15 2012 18:31 GMT
#2586
40k is insane! That's more than NASL2

TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 15 2012 18:34 GMT
#2587
Ret not out of the tournament? o_O
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Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 15 2012 18:34 GMT
#2588
I'm trying to remember a bad series from this tournament, can't think of one hah
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
January 15 2012 18:35 GMT
#2589
Ouch, much better hold from Ret there.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 18:35:51
January 15 2012 18:35 GMT
#2590
On January 16 2012 03:31 Ysellian wrote:
40k is insane! That's more than NASL2


free HD

On January 16 2012 03:34 TheBB wrote:
Ret not out of the tournament? o_O

3rd place match
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Waio
Profile Joined September 2010
Chile82 Posts
January 15 2012 18:36 GMT
#2591
Holding third as protoss in this map looks very VERY difficult, for what i've seen lately in tourneys
Aic
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden62 Posts
January 15 2012 18:36 GMT
#2592
It's the bronze match.
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
January 15 2012 18:36 GMT
#2593
On January 16 2012 03:34 Demonaz wrote:
I'm trying to remember a bad series from this tournament, can't think of one hah



Cloud vs Ret was pretty bad.

Other than that lots of great games.
DisillusionedAcronym
Profile Joined September 2011
190 Posts
January 15 2012 18:36 GMT
#2594
On January 16 2012 03:34 TheBB wrote:
Ret not out of the tournament? o_O
technically not. he's still playing. :-D
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 15 2012 18:37 GMT
#2595
On January 16 2012 03:36 Waio wrote:
Holding third as protoss in this map looks very VERY difficult, for what i've seen lately in tourneys


It's extremely hard. You are pretty much forced to do a 2 base attack to secure your third.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
DisillusionedAcronym
Profile Joined September 2011
190 Posts
January 15 2012 18:38 GMT
#2596
On January 16 2012 03:19 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:17 betaman wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting


If thats the case, you could say TB is "growing e-sports!"


He are. Him and Husky has brought the sc 2 scene huge amount of new fans and thats why it really makes me mad when I see people allways dissing his casting.

i'm one of those. really started watching/following because of TB's casts. i've since started watching more of other people's castings (some are seriously crappy) but still primarily watch and follow through TB's casts.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 15 2012 18:38 GMT
#2597
On January 16 2012 03:36 Waio wrote:
Holding third as protoss in this map looks very VERY difficult, for what i've seen lately in tourneys


Well, grubby shouldnt have attacked the 3base ret when his 3rd finished... lost a lot and achieved nothing. 3vs3 base is fine, no?^^
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Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 15 2012 18:39 GMT
#2598
On January 16 2012 03:36 dpurple wrote:
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On January 16 2012 03:34 Demonaz wrote:
I'm trying to remember a bad series from this tournament, can't think of one hah




Cloud vs Ret was pretty bad.

Other than that lots of great games.


True, that was horribly one sided. But the ratio of awesome games to crappy ones seems massively skewed towards awesome! Wonder why this is.
Nate_UK
Profile Joined March 2011
3 Posts
January 15 2012 18:39 GMT
#2599
how is a protoss supposed to be able to hold a third base (and hence not die horribly) on duel sight? it seems to be one of the worst for them even compared to metalopolis? I hate that map

anyone got REAL suggestions not just random bs that wouldnt work which a lot of people seem to give as "advice" in the forums. also how awesome has the quality of games been in SCI4?? :D Sooooooo goooooood!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
January 15 2012 18:40 GMT
#2600
On January 16 2012 03:38 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:36 Waio wrote:
Holding third as protoss in this map looks very VERY difficult, for what i've seen lately in tourneys


Well, grubby shouldnt have attacked the 3base ret when his 3rd finished... lost a lot and achieved nothing. 3vs3 base is fine, no?^^

Theoretically yes but Grubby's gas reserves were really low after that attempt to get Ret's 3rd, so many stalker warpins. He could have sat back and turtled but I think Ret would have over-run him regardless
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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