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jrdn
Profile Joined September 2010
United States132 Posts
January 15 2012 18:05 GMT
#2541
Ret at 174 supply at 11:30!
“The sole purpose of an opening is to achieve a playable midgame”
renlynn
Profile Joined May 2011
United States276 Posts
January 15 2012 18:05 GMT
#2542
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 18:06:02
January 15 2012 18:05 GMT
#2543
On January 16 2012 03:03 Noocta wrote:
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On January 16 2012 03:00 Onos wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bagi wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against any zerg ground unit, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.


We can assume that they will be less population than thors. If you can get 3 for 2 pop, like goliaths most likely, I suspect that they will be better than thors.



Their ground attack will only be good against mechanical unit. Zerg don't have any. :-(

So make more than one type of unit?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
January 15 2012 18:05 GMT
#2544
On January 16 2012 03:05 jrdn wrote:
Ret at 174 supply at 11:30!

Yeah but mass Roach against Sentry/Immortal/Blink Stalker, all @ 2/2 is quite horrible.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 19:23:49
January 15 2012 18:06 GMT
#2545
delete
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
January 15 2012 18:06 GMT
#2546
Lol that stream lags like hell.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 15 2012 18:07 GMT
#2547
On January 16 2012 03:05 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:03 Noocta wrote:
On January 16 2012 03:00 Onos wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bagi wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against any zerg ground unit, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.


We can assume that they will be less population than thors. If you can get 3 for 2 pop, like goliaths most likely, I suspect that they will be better than thors.



Their ground attack will only be good against mechanical unit. Zerg don't have any. :-(

So make more than one type of unit?

Why make an unit that is only useful against one single unit in the zerg army when you can just make marines instead?
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 15 2012 18:07 GMT
#2548
ret seems to be falling apart
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 15 2012 18:07 GMT
#2549
On January 16 2012 03:06 wangstra wrote:
How come whenever zerg runs up against forcefield, they just have their units spasing out on them and not just pull back?


Zerg micro is a rarity if you're not a top Korean.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 19:23:37
January 15 2012 18:07 GMT
#2550
delete
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 15 2012 18:08 GMT
#2551
On January 16 2012 02:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Terran lol. That is all.


Delicious tears.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
January 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#2552
On January 16 2012 03:07 wangstra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting


Why are they TB fans then? Does he do other work besides SC2?


He does a lot of stuff for loads of games. Check out his youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TotalHalibut/featured
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
renlynn
Profile Joined May 2011
United States276 Posts
January 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#2553
On January 16 2012 03:07 wangstra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:05 renlynn wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:59 dani` wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O


a lot of TB fans don't follow the sc2 scene much and just watch these games because they like TB's casting


Why are they TB fans then? Does he do other work besides SC2?


yes
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TotalBiscuit
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 15 2012 18:10 GMT
#2554
3-2-3 at 20min.
wow

That's what the upgrades patch buff and chrono can give you.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26021 Posts
January 15 2012 18:10 GMT
#2555
This is a really cool build to throw out in a bo5 occasionally from Grubby, dual forge upgrades have paid off thus far
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#2556
Mass roach into loss.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 19:23:24
January 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#2557
delete
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#2558
Grubby Stalkers are out of control.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
January 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#2559
--- Nuked ---
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
January 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#2560
"omg blink stalkers are op what can zergs do against this >_>"
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