• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:26
CEST 04:26
KST 11:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview0[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Do we have a pimpest plays list? AI Question ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1262 users

SHOUTcraft Invitational 4 - "Colin Smith" - Page 127

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 125 126 127 128 129 171 Next
Results can be found at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_SHOUTcraft_Invitational/4
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 19:24:03
January 15 2012 17:54 GMT
#2521
delete
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 15 2012 17:55 GMT
#2522
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

it's sort of what happened in brood war. terrans started going mass goliath with some tanks.
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
January 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#2523
Well on this tournament Stephano seems to be a class above the other players. Better mechanics, as DRG would say. But this is a final, this is Thorzain, and even if Stephano seems to beat him more often than not lately (3 1 at the MSI procup and 2 1 yesterday), anything is possible. Stephano's ZvT seems to be his weakest matchup atm because most of the terrans he played were top koreans (MKP, MVP, ForGG, etc), he hasn't lost against a foreign terran since Goody at the battle in berlin I think.
Shadow and dust
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:56:54
January 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#2524
On January 16 2012 02:54 wangstra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:47 Aic wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:44 Leetley wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:42 JohnMatrix wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
What I've learned from this thread is that all races are OP


yeah true:

http://i.imgur.com/fpFG7.jpg

Oh, WOW. :D



I like that for everything it says XXX are OP as first option. Except for zergling who appperantly are primarily CUTE



except for mutalisks too. they have the most positive/op hits.


all the protoss units have something bad about them. Idiots, useless, obsolete. I hope Browder uses google!
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#2525
nice voice modulation TB lol
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#2526
Here we go the best of the dutch rematch. Who will prove he is the best:D
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:59:41
January 15 2012 17:58 GMT
#2527
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against any zerg ground unit, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
January 15 2012 17:58 GMT
#2528
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days
I've got moves like Jagger
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 15 2012 17:59 GMT
#2529
On January 16 2012 02:56 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:54 wangstra wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 Aic wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:44 Leetley wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:42 JohnMatrix wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
What I've learned from this thread is that all races are OP


yeah true:

http://i.imgur.com/fpFG7.jpg

Oh, WOW. :D



I like that for everything it says XXX are OP as first option. Except for zergling who appperantly are primarily CUTE



except for mutalisks too. they have the most positive/op hits.


all the protoss units have something bad about them. Idiots, useless, obsolete. I hope Browder uses google!

The zerg units have always something positive: cute, good, smart, awesome :D
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 15 2012 17:59 GMT
#2530
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against ground units, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.


cept mutas.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 17:59 GMT
#2531
Over 3600 dollars raised for the next tournament well done all:D
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
January 15 2012 17:59 GMT
#2532
Thorzain's a little too godly, okay?
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 18:00:08
January 15 2012 17:59 GMT
#2533
On January 16 2012 02:55 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

it's sort of what happened in brood war. terrans started going mass goliath with some tanks.

Ya, when the Range upgrade for Golioths came out in BW- they became super effective. And with that, mech itself. Looking at the changes to Thor makes me wish I whined on the Bnet forums more. It's actually a great unit, Terran just needs to accept the fact that they need to leave 2 or 3 behind when they push to deal with mutas. A Thor, and Turrets with range and +2 armor are more than enough to keep Terran safe.

The smaller, faster, more mobile Warhound is just an easier unit to use, that is simply for bad players. So they can run back and forth easier. This is going to mean more unit clumping and ball v ball combat. If that is even possible.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
January 15 2012 17:59 GMT
#2534
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bashion wrote:
37k viewers is crazy oO

Homestory cup was hitting 40k in the first couple days

More crazy is the low activity in this thread, given that number of viewers O_O
Onos
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada107 Posts
January 15 2012 18:00 GMT
#2535
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against any zerg ground unit, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.


We can assume that they will be less population than thors. If you can get 3 for 2 pop, like goliaths most likely, I suspect that they will be better than thors.
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
January 15 2012 18:01 GMT
#2536
The robot voice for Grubby makes me giggle every time...damn you TB!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 15 2012 18:02 GMT
#2537
On January 16 2012 02:59 cursor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:55 Roe wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

it's sort of what happened in brood war. terrans started going mass goliath with some tanks.

Ya, when the Range upgrade for Golioths came out in BW- they became super effective. And with that, mech itself. Looking at the changes to Thor makes me wish I whined on the Bnet forums more. It's actually a great unit, Terran just needs to accept the fact that they need to leave 2 or 3 behind when they push to deal with mutas. A Thor, and Turrets with range and +2 armor are more than enough to keep Terran safe.

The smaller, faster, more mobile Warhound is just an easier unit to use, that is simply for bad players. So they can run back and forth easier. This is going to mean more unit clumping and ball v ball combat. If that is even possible.


They really don't. Good zergs figured out that all they needed to do was to add more mutas into their ball.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 15 2012 18:03 GMT
#2538
On January 16 2012 03:00 Onos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:58 Bagi wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:54 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:52 clusen wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:47 cursor wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:45 Everlong wrote:
Wonder how the new warhound will fit mech instead of Thor.. A bit worried, it might be good TvP, but TvZ - it's got shorter range and Terrans are going to be so weaker to tech switches I guess..

Man. That unit. When Terran sieges up a position with tanks in mech style, just convert half of the Hellions to those things. The position will just be that much tougher to break. It's fucking ridiculous actually.

That are battle hellions, he means the mini thors

Ya, I caught that. Those warhounds are too fast, looks ridiculous. The idea of thors is to have 1 at each base or a couple left behind to deal with muta Counter pushes. But they just had to make a more mobile version because 90% of people were too dumb to figure that out, so they just made em faster for better 1 hotkey action.

Well, thors are actually pretty solid against ground targets as well but these warhounds would have absolutely no use besides shooting clumped up mutalisks. They get bonus damage against mechanical ground targets and are most likely terrible against biological.

So you get a mini-thor that is useless against any zerg ground unit, seems like a nerf overall to me. In fact I can't justify making them in TvZ if they remain in their current form.


We can assume that they will be less population than thors. If you can get 3 for 2 pop, like goliaths most likely, I suspect that they will be better than thors.



Their ground attack will only be good against mechanical unit. Zerg don't have any. :-(
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
January 15 2012 18:04 GMT
#2539
3rd place match is bo5 or bo3? Liquipedia is unclear about it, anyone knows?
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
January 15 2012 18:04 GMT
#2540
On January 16 2012 03:04 gds wrote:
3rd place match is bo5 or bo3? Liquipedia is unclear about it, anyone knows?

It says in the overlay on stream Bo5.
Prev 1 125 126 127 128 129 171 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#80 (TLMC 22 Edition)
PiGStarcraft555
CranKy Ducklings80
EnkiAlexander 58
davetesta25
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft576
RuFF_SC2 173
CosmosSc2 45
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6098
Artosis 651
910 50
NaDa 33
Moletrap 11
Noble 10
League of Legends
Doublelift4823
JimRising 686
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Other Games
summit1g8109
tarik_tv5958
C9.Mang0600
monkeys_forever507
ViBE39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick981
BasetradeTV416
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 85
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 25
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1135
Upcoming Events
GSL
7h 4m
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
1d 7h
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
1d 8h
OSC
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Escore
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
BSL
4 days
GSL
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.