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Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
January 09 2012 12:17 GMT
#2161
I like Sen and he's provided some very entertaining games in the past... but he really belongs in Code A right now. Bad decisions and micro mistakes abound, and now leaving 3 drones idle... he's cracking under pressure. Not the actions of a Code S player, unfortunately.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 09 2012 12:17 GMT
#2162
On January 09 2012 21:13 Haydin wrote:
So I have realized after about 1 1/2 hours live report threads for the GSL turn to absolute shit. Ideas why?


No no no. There's not a time limit on it, there are criteria to fill. I don't have the full list on me, but usually stuff like:

- Zerg lose
- Terran win
- Protoss play
- Nestea jokes
- Fan favourites lose
- Foreigners lose
- Ghosts appear
- 2 base all ins
- 3 base all ins
- Cheese
- 1 base all ins that are actually not all ins
- Moletrap makes a bad joke

That's probably only some of the list, but usually each LR poster has their breaking point. Some only need one of the above criteria filled, some need almost even 3 of the list to occur.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
January 09 2012 12:17 GMT
#2163
On January 09 2012 21:15 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:06 Fionn wrote:
Sen is making a case to never allow Mr. Chae to invite foreigners to Code S for free ever again.
Hmmm Well I reckno Mr Chae made an excellent choice: Sen to lure in the ENTIRE Chinese market (HK, Mainland, TW, Singapore etc) and IdrA ... well you know how much foreigners Idolise IdrA. He just needs to invite a European - oh wait Naniwa probe rushed...

Everyone has nerves man - we've seen less than impressive play from Nestea, Nada, Huk and tons of others in CodeS before. Sen probably needs to stay in the IM team house again and improve.


WHat better ways for him to get over his nerves then let him go through the code A qualifiers and then code A itself? Why seed first time players into code S, the premier tournament?

Sen going into mutas, lets see if he can do some damage.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#2164
On January 09 2012 21:16 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:14 MorroW wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:14 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:13 MorroW wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:12 Azzur wrote:
Wtf, he's ignoring the idle workers???

the thing with idle workers is that you dont see it. you dont ignore it lol


Yeah but it's easy to see, no ? It's quite big on the screen and near the minimap.

ya it should be easy to see. thats why we almost never ever see it

it was a blunder :/(


I hope you won't do that in your code A match, ahah just kidding
Do you feel confident ?

ya i hope i play my best^^
hard to say if im confident but im looking forward to it alot because ive been improving much

its cool to see boxer play a passive tvz macro game
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
January 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#2165
On January 09 2012 21:16 Spectorials wrote:
Boxer has no siege mode????


If zerg would've scouted that he could DESTROY the army.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#2166
taiwanase leagues not the best practice environment against korean terrans
Stork[gm]
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
January 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#2167
On January 09 2012 21:14 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:09 Sc2Null wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:09 TheDwf wrote:
I'm so tired of those "Ultralisks into loss" comments. It's even worse than the "USA! USA! USA!" stupid meme, and that says a lot.


How many zergs have lost cause they made ultras and they did nothing?

Exactly. These are the best zerg players in the entire world, and virtually every time we see ultras they lead to a loss. It happens time and time again, but for some reason people like to point to the rare exception where they work and claim that ultras are strong units.

It's disappointing to me at this point to see pro players still trying to make them work. The mindset of "I'm so far ahead, I can just make anything" is poisonous to achieving tournament success, but zergs keep on doing it.


Oh wow.

If one player can make them work that well, the others are doing it wrong. Its very fun that zergs QQ how useless ultras are when there is proof that they work amazing.

Funny how it shifted from Terrans to Zerg from BW to WoL. I wonder if its because two certain BW terran players switching to zerg.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#2168
i think the main thing in zvt right now is that zergs cant figure out how to respond to hellions

i dont know building roaches defensively never seems to work out, he gives up map control to minute 15, cant punish 3rd of terran and is very vulnerable to many pressure timings (like jjakji did with marauder medivacon this map)

not building roaches can be very bad vs double fac hellion or 2 fac blueflame, which on top is almost impossible to scout

recently drg and leenock refused to build roaches by walling off with queens and even triple spine and delay their 3rd very much, maybe that's the best thing to do right now..
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 12:20:29
January 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#2169
its over. bad positioning attacking the rocks.

Edit: hmm, wp by sen.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
January 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#2170
On January 09 2012 21:14 Nocteo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:11 Baobab wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:07 DarKcS wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:05 mikep wrote:
Christ drops are so effective.


Doesn't even matter if 0 micro, doesnt even matter if medivacs get attacked because the broodlord style (needed to win zvt) requires not making mutalisks so they just auto-run to corners of the maps and come back again, doesnt matter sen had 2-3 spines at each base, didnt matter he had lings + 2 banes at most bases.


Agree 100%, marines + medivacs are just too damn cost-effective. Hate to balance-whine, but I sure wish I could send 16 zerglings in ovies to a far-away T expansion and destroy it in ~30 seconds...


You actually could if it was an orbital with adrenal glands.

I shouldnt tell zerg players this, but dropping 2 overlords of linsg in a terran base and then spreading creep with the overlords after the raxes lift, or just killing reactors, is just as effective as terran drops.

It's not my fault that zerg players refuse to even try in 99% of cases. Also, big drop/nydus with infestors hidden and waiting in overlord by ramp is fucking annoying.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
January 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#2171
Sen is having a bad day. We all sometimes do.
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
January 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#2172
BOXERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#2173
Hopefully the GSL Invitational ends with the group stage.
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2174
On January 09 2012 21:18 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:16 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:14 MorroW wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:14 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:13 MorroW wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:12 Azzur wrote:
Wtf, he's ignoring the idle workers???

the thing with idle workers is that you dont see it. you dont ignore it lol


Yeah but it's easy to see, no ? It's quite big on the screen and near the minimap.

ya it should be easy to see. thats why we almost never ever see it

it was a blunder :/(


I hope you won't do that in your code A match, ahah just kidding
Do you feel confident ?

ya i hope i play my best^^
hard to say if im confident but im looking forward to it alot because ive been improving much

its cool to see boxer play a passive tvz macro game


We all hope to see you do well!
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2175
On January 09 2012 21:18 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:16 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:14 MorroW wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:14 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:13 MorroW wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:12 Azzur wrote:
Wtf, he's ignoring the idle workers???

the thing with idle workers is that you dont see it. you dont ignore it lol


Yeah but it's easy to see, no ? It's quite big on the screen and near the minimap.

ya it should be easy to see. thats why we almost never ever see it

it was a blunder :/(


I hope you won't do that in your code A match, ahah just kidding
Do you feel confident ?

ya i hope i play my best^^
hard to say if im confident but im looking forward to it alot because ive been improving much

its cool to see boxer play a passive tvz macro game


Nice, I will cheer for you !! I think you have good chances to advance, the up&downs was close
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2176
Fuck yes, Sen!!!!!!!!!!!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2177
how is sen still in the game?
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Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2178
On January 09 2012 21:18 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 21:14 Chocobo wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:09 Sc2Null wrote:
On January 09 2012 21:09 TheDwf wrote:
I'm so tired of those "Ultralisks into loss" comments. It's even worse than the "USA! USA! USA!" stupid meme, and that says a lot.


How many zergs have lost cause they made ultras and they did nothing?

Exactly. These are the best zerg players in the entire world, and virtually every time we see ultras they lead to a loss. It happens time and time again, but for some reason people like to point to the rare exception where they work and claim that ultras are strong units.

It's disappointing to me at this point to see pro players still trying to make them work. The mindset of "I'm so far ahead, I can just make anything" is poisonous to achieving tournament success, but zergs keep on doing it.


Oh wow.

If one player can make them work that well, the others are doing it wrong. Its very fun that zergs QQ how useless ultras are when there is proof that they work amazing.

Funny how it shifted from Terrans to Zerg from BW to WoL. I wonder if its because two certain BW terran players switching to zerg.
Ultras as a unit are "good". Not "great" like the Brood Lord or Mutalisk, but "good".

Its piss poor AI and demanding a very very strong economy to work well (because they are very easily countered if scouted) is why it doesn't work.
#freeshauni
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2179
SOmeone can do a live report, since I cant watch the games right here ?
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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
January 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#2180
boxer's macro
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