|
Contrary to popular belief Stephano is not from the States, any mindless spam asserting otherwise after this time (19:48 KST/ 5:48 AM EST/ 10:48 GMT) will meet a moderator response. We have enough confusing spam posting in LR threads these days. Lets try to keep the love for everyone's favourite French zerg reasonable.
And as always:
- No player bashing.
- No caster bashing.
- No balance whining.
Enjoy the games. |
On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament.
Thats like saying I beat someone in tennis and they beat someone in soccer, so I would beat them in soccer also. PvZ and ZvZ are not the same. Either way they're GOM's rules and if Steph had been getting through and he had to play MC to secure his spot most would likely be arguing it should be heads up score.
|
On December 12 2011 21:28 double620 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:25 Azarkon wrote:
Cross Fire is a pretty crappy map for PvZ. Two base all-ins are basically all you can do. But that might be why MC decided to not go for a two base all-in, since it's predictable. Sucks that Stephano's tournament fate was decided on such a bad map. But then Stephano had his tournament fate in his own hands until he lost vs. MC doing a roach-ling all-in.
I think the reason Mc decided to expand was because he saw the zerg had burrow.
DRG was more than prepared as well with all those spines.
|
On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament.
Yeah and then if MC wins again versus Stephano it should be best out of 5. Then there should be a loser's bracket where Stephano plays all of them all over again. Then just a normal loser's bracket for Stephano to come back from.
|
On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament.
Stephano lost to MC so how is it clearly Stephano>MC?
|
On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament.
umm, pretty much every single sport in existence
|
On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament.
And how does the fact that MC actually played Stephano and BEAT him factor into your logic??
|
I don't like the situation that transpired in the last couple of games. The loser of the first series of the last two games (Mvp - Stephano) is at a clear disadvantage, considering one of the other two players will be qualified based on the former result, and thus not put in 100% effort into their game. Both sets should have been played simultaneously to prevent this.
|
DRG gets few days off, to rest and prepare. Go DRG!
|
On December 12 2011 21:27 SaoPaulo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament. And MC did beat Stephano...
But Stephano beat a stronger player than MC, according to overall results. Head to head, damn it! This is mathematically incorrect!
|
Oh god you guys immediately started bashing me... Of course he didn't throw the game, it's just that being able to advance while losing and another korean to advance instead of a foreigner is really stupid. I am NOT hating on MC for gods sake...I am disappointed by the rules.
|
How was the mood in this thread when Stephano was leading 2-0? I am trying to find the correct pages but there are a lot of them to rummage through.
|
Mc played really well, he almost survived that muta transition, his storm and ht timing were impeccable, and the cannons at the 3rd were solid too... Had he gotten earlier obs and saved his air fleet, he could have taken the game into the late stages on an even footing.
|
This is how they do it in every group stage. God damn I hate fanboys. Just deal with it, everyone (except hero) got respectable results.
|
Stop with all this noncence that MC trew the games wtf ofcourse he didnt. It´s just a piss map for protoss.
|
WHEN will be
Group B
playing?
|
On December 12 2011 21:27 wklbishop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament. DRG is 3-1 though.
Look at any qualifying rounds for any major football(soccer) tournament to see that head to head is used...
with your logic, DRG>MC>Stephano which leads to DRG>Stephano
even though in both occassions both are false.
|
On December 12 2011 21:29 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament. And how does the fact that MC actually played Stephano and BEAT him factor into your logic??
cam down he's trolling lol
|
On December 12 2011 21:26 Reasonable wrote:
I really don't like how one player is chosen over the other with the same score. Head to head? What sport is this concept from? I say let MC play Stephano for the right to advance. That's some joke of a system. Stephano defeated DRG, who bested MC, if my knowledge of algebraic logical operators is correct, Stephano>DRG>MC leads to Stephano>MC. I'm surprised to see this "creativity" in a Korean tournament.
Yeah.. um. MC already beat Stephano, and I guess you've never played sports before, or watched them, like ever.
|
On December 12 2011 21:25 Holdinga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:22 Zzoram wrote:On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote:
Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
Don't be a whiner. MC didn't throw that game, it looked like a real game, and MC played quite well. The way he held that Infested Terran attack was amazing. Im not saying he throwed the game, because it is actually impossible to know this. Im saying the rules are stupid, and that no person in this world exists that would fuck over another person from the same nationality.
People seem to think winning a game isnt important just because it doesnt provide any benefit in the current tournament.
These are televised games, winning them improves win % stats, which makes a player look good and are looked at by sponsers etc., and improves ELO, which is what invites to many tournaments are based on.
Theres no way in hell MC would throw a game to help someone whos not even on the same team as him.
|
Sometimes players profit from a flawed system (and Stephano did in the past) but sometimes they can't. It's saddening to see Bo1 in group play and that's certainly one bad heritage from SC1 that we could do without.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
