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On December 12 2011 21:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Well honestly there is no motivation for MC to win since he wont be eliminated if he loses and won't get 1st place if he wins anyway which means he won't be able to get a bye into the RO4 no matter what..........tough luck stephano tough luck
If he finished 2nd he would have to face the 3rd in group b, so an easier opponent normally, so yes he had motivation
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On December 12 2011 21:18 TechnoZerg wrote:
Sorry if this question has already been asked, but why the heck was Stephano eliminated? Both he and MC are 2-2, and I heard the commentators say that MCwas progressing to the next round heading into the MC/DRG match (while he was 2-1, the same as DRG). It doesn't make much sense.
If there is a tie, it is decided by the players' head-to-head score. Since MC beat Stephano he advances even though they were both 2-2
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On December 12 2011 21:20 dapierow wrote:
So funny how before the event even started people were speculating that mvp or stephano would take #1, I suggest everyone takes a look on page 28, the third last post to be exact... thats the true master peice of this thread!!!
I'm sure I've seen that mentioned before...
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On December 12 2011 21:21 esla_sol wrote:
yeah that was just awful by MC. that little ling infestor attack in the beginning should have been destroyed but his archon wasnt attacking. if he doesnt fuck that up game was his.
Um what was he supposed to do, magically teleport the buildings and units blocking his archons from reaching the infested terran?
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On December 12 2011 17:14 jinixxx123 wrote:My predictions MVP <Bel'Shir Beach Winter> MChero <Daybreak> StephanoMVP <Tal'Darim Altar LE> DongRaeGu MC <Calm Before the Storm> hero Stephano <Crossfire SE 1.1> DongRaeGu hero <Antiga Shipyard 1.1> MVPStephano <Dual Sight 1.1> MC hero <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> DongRaeGuStephano <Shakuras Plateau 2.0> MVPMC <Crossfire SE 1.1> DongRaeGu
Oh my mother of god that was close.
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On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote:
Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
Don't be a whiner.
MC didn't throw that game, it looked like a real game, and MC played quite well. The way he held that Infested Terran attack was amazing.
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On December 12 2011 21:20 DaCruise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Well honestly there is no motivation for MC to win since he wont be eliminated if he loses and won't get 1st place if he wins anyway which means he won't be able to get a bye into the RO4 no matter what..........tough luck stephano tough luck Are you implying that he dint try his hardest to win vs DRG? Anyone who watched that game knows that MC stuck until the bitter end. I was hoping for Stephano as well but this last game was 100% legit from my pov. It was also the best game of todays matches.
Yep. There was absolutely no sub-par play from what I saw of MC.
Heck, the only sub-par decision making from my opinion was trying to make a macro game out of it and not going for a two-base all in on Crossfire.
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On December 12 2011 21:19 Sc2Null wrote:
time to write that 10-pager paper and 6-page analysis report..sighs
Time to explain to my wife why I avoided social interaction with her for hours. >,<
Fuck it... it was worth it. Those were some bad ass games. The three people that advanced all played some nice games tonight in Korea.
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On December 12 2011 21:18 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 StUfF wrote:
MC went so archon/templar/phoenix and DRG still pops out the mutas and GGs it.
Mutas so good. The Phoenix and voidrays were killed early, and even the mutas all died from good storms/an archon in a warprism. He won that with roaches.
You don't understand how much time the mutas buy you. DRG harassing with mutas forced like 10+ cannons and also let him establish his 3rd and 4th base. He also knew everything that was going on in MC's base and knew exactly what to prepare for.
Game was pretty much over when DRG secured his bases while MC was still dealing with the harass. The mutas gave DRG that economy lead and then just pumped out roaches from that.
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On December 12 2011 21:22 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:20 dapierow wrote:
So funny how before the event even started people were speculating that mvp or stephano would take #1, I suggest everyone takes a look on page 28, the third last post to be exact... thats the true master peice of this thread!!! I'm sure I've seen that mentioned before...
He's spammed it like 20 times. He's probably gonna make a thread about it.
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On December 12 2011 21:21 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:19 IamPryda wrote:
Muta tech switch on that map so ez pz Mc pretty much went exact counter fast upgrade and Templar which are supposed to crush mutas In theory but on a map with your minerals that spread mc didnt stand a chance to be fair i don't think the mutas were that good. They certainly paid off as they picked off all the stargate units and random units here and there + templar archives but MC had them under control most of the time. It was the map structure, where MC had to split his units so much that made MC lost.
Also, going for archons instead of collossus doesn't help in these choked maps. I understand that templars were useful as well, but I feel like MC should have eased up on Archons, wait before moving out and include some Archons...
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On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote:
Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though.
this is completely absurd. wtf?
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On December 12 2011 21:19 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:19 Sc2Null wrote:
time to write that 10-pager paper and 6-page analysis report..sighs Time to study for effing exams.... sigh....
writing exams is awesome, especially when you start the day with Blizzard Cup 
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On December 12 2011 21:19 mcmartini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:18 StarscreamG1 wrote:
MC played so well...ht's all over de map, FF, warps. But then Zerg appears. He didn't really do any dmg with all the phoenix he had out or the void besides stopping creep spread. I think that was the main issue.
I don't think he was really trying to do alot of damage he was just trying get some map control and deter roach/ling all in or mutas since those builds are strong on crossfire which drg disagreed and said hmmm I think I will show case my top zvt muta control in zvp and it worked
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On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote:
Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
And what part of the MC vs DRG game leads you to believe that MC lost the match on purpose?
1. Protoss has a hard time vs Zerg in general.
2. PvZ is not MC's best MU
3. Crossfire is a shitty ass PvZ match
4. MC had insanely good micro.
If you think MC threw the match vs DRG, then you might as well as accuse him the same against MVP cause that match was even more lopsided.
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Best day! Three of my favorite players of each race advance!
Well, the MC vs DRG game was good, MC tried his best, but it's not his fault for Stephano not advancing.
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On December 12 2011 21:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:22 mvtaylor wrote:On December 12 2011 21:20 dapierow wrote:
So funny how before the event even started people were speculating that mvp or stephano would take #1, I suggest everyone takes a look on page 28, the third last post to be exact... thats the true master peice of this thread!!! I'm sure I've seen that mentioned before... He's spammed it like 20 times. He's probably gonna make a thread about it.
He has to spam since he didn't bet any money on it.
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On December 12 2011 21:24 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote:
Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
And what part of the MC vs DRG game leads you to believe that MC lost the match on purpose? 1. Protoss has a hard time vs Zerg in general. 2. PvZ is not MC's best MU 3. Crossfire is a shitty ass PvZ match 4. MC had insanely good micro. If you think MC threw the match vs DRG, then you might as well as accuse him the same against MVP cause that match was even more lopsided.
Stephano fanboys are really mad right now. Don't bother. His fate was in his own hands.
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On December 12 2011 21:23 dkream wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote:
Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. this is completely absurd. wtf?
As in the way it went back and forth, one person looking dominant, then the other. I guess?
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Cross Fire is a pretty crappy map for PvZ. Two base all-ins are standard. But that might be why MC decided to not go for a two base all-in, since it's predictable. Sucks that Stephano's tournament fate was decided on such a bad map. But then Stephano had his tournament fate in his own hands until he lost vs. MC doing a roach-ling all-in.
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