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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 18 2012 05:37 GMT
#61
Will there be 2v2?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
January 18 2012 05:44 GMT
#62
yes afaik its the same format as normal csl season's games go
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 18 2012 07:34 GMT
#63
correctamundo
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
January 18 2012 10:03 GMT
#64
Anyone care to comment on how the lineups work? Will I be able to racepick, like all the cool LANs allow you to do?
RuMCaKe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States559 Posts
January 18 2012 10:25 GMT
#65
I might try to make it out to spectate some games. Looks like a fun event.
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 18 2012 19:35 GMT
#66
You will be able to race pick, we'll try to simulate lineups like the regular season.

Would be awesome to see you there, RuMCaKe!
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
January 18 2012 22:30 GMT
#67
Well regular season I can't racepick because I don't know my opponent's race :o
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#68
On January 19 2012 07:30 FabledIntegral wrote:
Well regular season I can't racepick because I don't know my opponent's race :o

That means you can't racepick, because you won't know your opponent's race until lineups are revealed.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 19 2012 04:30 GMT
#69
On January 19 2012 11:10 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 07:30 FabledIntegral wrote:
Well regular season I can't racepick because I don't know my opponent's race :o

That means you can't racepick, because you won't know your opponent's race until lineups are revealed.


boom.

you can TRY to mindgame ur opponent
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 04:39:39
January 19 2012 04:38 GMT
#70
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 19 2012 04:48 GMT
#71
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 05:23:25
January 19 2012 05:21 GMT
#72
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
January 19 2012 05:34 GMT
#73
On January 18 2012 19:25 RuMCaKe wrote:
I might try to make it out to spectate some brobostrats be concocted and executed with finesse. Looks like brobo is going to mindfuck the shit out of people.

fixed it for you man.
on a serious note, if I see you i'll say hi .
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:29:42
January 19 2012 11:29 GMT
#74
On January 19 2012 14:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?

So you're gonna choose tvz on shattered temple and then pvz on xelnaga. How is that fair? and what if you want to play terran vs my zerg and i decide i want to play terran vs your terran and then you decide you want to play protoss vs my terran?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:43:14
January 19 2012 11:39 GMT
#75
On January 19 2012 20:29 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 14:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?

So you're gonna choose tvz on shattered temple and then pvz on xelnaga. How is that fair? and what if you want to play terran vs my zerg and i decide i want to play terran vs your terran and then you decide you want to play protoss vs my terran?


And this has been an issue EVER? No, throughout all the LANs that allow race picking, this NEVER becomes an issue. Show me some times where this has become an issue.

If major tournies like GSL and MLG allow it and don't experience issues, I'm very hard pressed to find how you can make that argument. If it came down to it, flip a coin. We had to do that like twice for that UCSD LAN to determine vetos and starting maps.

You also don't say why it isn't fair. Why is it unfair to choose TvZ on shattered and PvZ on Xel Naga? You can choose whatever race you want, I can choose whatever race I want. You haven't made your point.

EDIT: Reason being, I've always played ZvT instead of TvT.
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
January 19 2012 19:40 GMT
#76
On January 19 2012 20:39 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:29 T.O.P. wrote:
On January 19 2012 14:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?

So you're gonna choose tvz on shattered temple and then pvz on xelnaga. How is that fair? and what if you want to play terran vs my zerg and i decide i want to play terran vs your terran and then you decide you want to play protoss vs my terran?


And this has been an issue EVER? No, throughout all the LANs that allow race picking, this NEVER becomes an issue. Show me some times where this has become an issue.

If major tournies like GSL and MLG allow it and don't experience issues, I'm very hard pressed to find how you can make that argument. If it came down to it, flip a coin. We had to do that like twice for that UCSD LAN to determine vetos and starting maps.

You also don't say why it isn't fair. Why is it unfair to choose TvZ on shattered and PvZ on Xel Naga? You can choose whatever race you want, I can choose whatever race I want. You haven't made your point.

EDIT: Reason being, I've always played ZvT instead of TvT.

rofl if a terran can't win tvz on shattered temple they should uninstal the game because they are fucking terrible. the same can be said for t/p on XNC vs zerg. if you are really questioning the balance about maps which are inherently broken idk what to say.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
January 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#77
Is there a place nearby where we could watch the AFC/NFC Championships during downtime? So basically are there TVs anywhere?
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#78
On January 19 2012 20:39 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:29 T.O.P. wrote:
On January 19 2012 14:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?

So you're gonna choose tvz on shattered temple and then pvz on xelnaga. How is that fair? and what if you want to play terran vs my zerg and i decide i want to play terran vs your terran and then you decide you want to play protoss vs my terran?


And this has been an issue EVER? No, throughout all the LANs that allow race picking, this NEVER becomes an issue. Show me some times where this has become an issue.

If major tournies like GSL and MLG allow it and don't experience issues, I'm very hard pressed to find how you can make that argument. If it came down to it, flip a coin. We had to do that like twice for that UCSD LAN to determine vetos and starting maps.

You also don't say why it isn't fair. Why is it unfair to choose TvZ on shattered and PvZ on Xel Naga? You can choose whatever race you want, I can choose whatever race I want. You haven't made your point.

EDIT: Reason being, I've always played ZvT instead of TvT.


Individual tournaments are different, because you know your opponent's race ahead of time. MLG also lets you change races in between games. That's fine in that setting. In a clanwar setting, it makes less sense, especially with our format.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 23:24:04
January 19 2012 23:22 GMT
#79
On January 20 2012 04:40 BroboCop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:39 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:29 T.O.P. wrote:
On January 19 2012 14:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?

So you're gonna choose tvz on shattered temple and then pvz on xelnaga. How is that fair? and what if you want to play terran vs my zerg and i decide i want to play terran vs your terran and then you decide you want to play protoss vs my terran?


And this has been an issue EVER? No, throughout all the LANs that allow race picking, this NEVER becomes an issue. Show me some times where this has become an issue.

If major tournies like GSL and MLG allow it and don't experience issues, I'm very hard pressed to find how you can make that argument. If it came down to it, flip a coin. We had to do that like twice for that UCSD LAN to determine vetos and starting maps.

You also don't say why it isn't fair. Why is it unfair to choose TvZ on shattered and PvZ on Xel Naga? You can choose whatever race you want, I can choose whatever race I want. You haven't made your point.

EDIT: Reason being, I've always played ZvT instead of TvT.

rofl if a terran can't win tvz on shattered temple they should uninstal the game because they are fucking terrible. the same can be said for t/p on XNC vs zerg. if you are really questioning the balance about maps which are inherently broken idk what to say.


Your point isn't even remotely relevant. What is the purpose of your post?

On January 20 2012 04:43 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 20:39 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 20:29 T.O.P. wrote:
On January 19 2012 14:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:48 Xeris wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:38 FabledIntegral wrote:
Lame.

So you have to submit your race? I can't just say "I want to play on TDA set 3"? Any particular reason? :o


Uh, that gives you an unfair advantage over others?

You can't say "I want to pick whatever matchup I'm best at when I see my opponent's race," especially when they're blind picking


How does that give any advantage whatsoever? It's not like they can't do the same. A lot of LANs allow it. I know the UCSD LAN that just happened allowed it, and MLG allows it too. Why would they be "blind picking"? They'd be doing the same...?

So you're gonna choose tvz on shattered temple and then pvz on xelnaga. How is that fair? and what if you want to play terran vs my zerg and i decide i want to play terran vs your terran and then you decide you want to play protoss vs my terran?


And this has been an issue EVER? No, throughout all the LANs that allow race picking, this NEVER becomes an issue. Show me some times where this has become an issue.

If major tournies like GSL and MLG allow it and don't experience issues, I'm very hard pressed to find how you can make that argument. If it came down to it, flip a coin. We had to do that like twice for that UCSD LAN to determine vetos and starting maps.

You also don't say why it isn't fair. Why is it unfair to choose TvZ on shattered and PvZ on Xel Naga? You can choose whatever race you want, I can choose whatever race I want. You haven't made your point.

EDIT: Reason being, I've always played ZvT instead of TvT.


Individual tournaments are different, because you know your opponent's race ahead of time. MLG also lets you change races in between games. That's fine in that setting. In a clanwar setting, it makes less sense, especially with our format.


How does it make less sense in a clanwar setting? Also, how does knowing your opponent's race ahead of time matter? Also, to continue, what's "that's fine in that setting" even mean? I've never competed in any major clanwars, but the minor leagues I've participated in ESEA and some other small one about the same size I can't remember the name also allowed race picking. In fact, CSL is the only league I've encountered so far that doesn't allow race picking.

So "not knowing your opponent's race ahead of time" suddenly makes race picking not viable? What? I simply don't understand why CSL insists that you lock your race in. Especially since you don't know your opponent's race ahead of time, you haven't prepared vs that particular race, so what does it matter what your opponent picks? Not like anyone actually prepares ahead of time in CSL anyways.
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
January 20 2012 01:37 GMT
#80
On January 20 2012 08:22 FabledIntegral wrote:
I've participated in ESEA and some other small one about the same size I can't remember the name also allowed race picking.

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
quoting ESEA as a tournament league with rules that are even remotely close to logical LOL not sure if serious or what.
and we all know how credible small tournaments are.
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