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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 20 2012 22:15 GMT
#101
Fabled when did you turn into such a bitter human being, chill.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 22:33:45
January 20 2012 22:22 GMT
#102
On January 21 2012 06:03 LaGTTLizarD wrote:
Show nested quote +
Since when has CSL had any more prestige than other small leagues? If anything, its just been a fun school tourney with plenty of mediocre players with a few semipros sprinkled in here or there. I've played in it since BW, where if you had a lineup of solid C players in your school you'd be considered one of the better schools.

Only school with a "pro" player had NoNy if I recall.



From my perspective
1 . u offending the league u gonna play
2 There is a big prize pool so its not jst for fun .
3 CSL is bigger than any other small league since it actually has big sponsors backing them up.
4 You will be surprise of how many good ppl are around California.
5 You just offended 3/4 of the participant calling them mediocre.
6 Who are you to try to change the rules ?
7 Bw is 1 game Sc2 is another game.
8 There are alot of leagues that dont accept race picking .
9. Stop complaining and do your best , a league or tournament wont change the way the rules are set just because some1 doesnt like it.
10 if u dont like it then dont participate.


Cool, you have plenty of shitty points.

Having a disagreement or saying that CSL isn't *more* prestigious than other leagues is hardly offending. I'm giving my viewpoint.

If you honestly think I offended 3/4 of the participants by calling them mediocre than you're a friggin' idiot. Yes, 3/4 of the players are mediocre. Who the hell is disputing that. Have you seen the rosters for teams? Some don't have ANY players above diamond.

Who am I trying to change the rules? Is that even a fucking argument? If you don't agree with the rules, you're not supposed to voice your opinion? God damn dude, really? Did I say I wasn't going to participate anyways? Did I say it was a dealbreaker? No. In fact, I like CSL, and think it's pretty damn cool, hence me participating in it for the past few years, jackass.

CSL had its origins in BW and there is ZERO difference in how scheduling actually works, so no, different games is not even a remotely relevant argument.

There are lots of leagues that do accept race picking as well, especially the more prestigious leagues. Hence my point - if they are going to come up with a rule like this, I hope they have some logical and sound reasoning for it.

If I don't like it I'm going to voice my opinion. Just because you don't like a particular facet doesn't mean you have to boycott the entire thing. As I said before, I like CSL, I like the effort the admins have put into finding sponsors, making things happen, and throwing this event. Which is why I'm going to spend my weekend at the LAN as opposed to with family for Chinese New Year. In fact, it's one of the more fun leagues I've participated in.

From my perspective, you're an idiot.


On January 21 2012 07:15 Xeris wrote:
Fabled when did you turn into such a bitter human being, chill.


It's not even being bitter. As I just wrote, I think CSL is awesome. I just don't agree with one of your rules. The only reason I've been so adamant on posting about it is the actual reasoning given for it has thus far been terrible, which has served to simply annoy me on the matter. Like brobo coming in and posting the garbage about TvZ on Xel Naga which isn't relevant, and was simply there to mock me. None of the posts really, except yours actually, have really even been relevant to what I'm saying, but rather bashing, so forgive me if I'm super antsy on the subject. And I don't even agree with you on that matter (I'm not saying I'm right, mind you, I just don't agree). So overall, I've kept responding, looking for a decent answer that would at the very least satisfy me.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 22:46:14
January 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#103
racepicking does not make sense in this context because it's supposed to be like proleague. in proleague you need to choose a race before you are sent out on a map because intelligently race-picking for maps or counterpicking the opposing team's picks is supposed to be part of the team strategy in this kind of league format. if you were allowed to choose your race after being sent out on a map it eliminates part of the strategy in this format.

race picking in a team league might make more sense if it was all-kill style or bo3 between each player, but not this specific format.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 20 2012 22:48 GMT
#104
On January 21 2012 07:22 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 06:03 LaGTTLizarD wrote:
Since when has CSL had any more prestige than other small leagues? If anything, its just been a fun school tourney with plenty of mediocre players with a few semipros sprinkled in here or there. I've played in it since BW, where if you had a lineup of solid C players in your school you'd be considered one of the better schools.

Only school with a "pro" player had NoNy if I recall.



From my perspective
1 . u offending the league u gonna play
2 There is a big prize pool so its not jst for fun .
3 CSL is bigger than any other small league since it actually has big sponsors backing them up.
4 You will be surprise of how many good ppl are around California.
5 You just offended 3/4 of the participant calling them mediocre.
6 Who are you to try to change the rules ?
7 Bw is 1 game Sc2 is another game.
8 There are alot of leagues that dont accept race picking .
9. Stop complaining and do your best , a league or tournament wont change the way the rules are set just because some1 doesnt like it.
10 if u dont like it then dont participate.


Cool, you have plenty of shitty points.

Having a disagreement or saying that CSL isn't *more* prestigious than other leagues is hardly offending. I'm giving my viewpoint.

If you honestly think I offended 3/4 of the participants by calling them mediocre than you're a friggin' idiot. Yes, 3/4 of the players are mediocre. Who the hell is disputing that. Have you seen the rosters for teams? Some don't have ANY players above diamond.

Who am I trying to change the rules? Is that even a fucking argument? If you don't agree with the rules, you're not supposed to voice your opinion? God damn dude, really? Did I say I wasn't going to participate anyways? Did I say it was a dealbreaker? No. In fact, I like CSL, and think it's pretty damn cool, hence me participating in it for the past few years, jackass.

CSL had its origins in BW and there is ZERO difference in how scheduling actually works, so no, different games is not even a remotely relevant argument.

There are lots of leagues that do accept race picking as well, especially the more prestigious leagues. Hence my point - if they are going to come up with a rule like this, I hope they have some logical and sound reasoning for it.

If I don't like it I'm going to voice my opinion. Just because you don't like a particular facet doesn't mean you have to boycott the entire thing. As I said before, I like CSL, I like the effort the admins have put into finding sponsors, making things happen, and throwing this event. Which is why I'm going to spend my weekend at the LAN as opposed to with family for Chinese New Year. In fact, it's one of the more fun leagues I've participated in.

From my perspective, you're an idiot.


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 07:15 Xeris wrote:
Fabled when did you turn into such a bitter human being, chill.


It's not even being bitter. As I just wrote, I think CSL is awesome. I just don't agree with one of your rules. The only reason I've been so adamant on posting about it is the actual reasoning given for it has thus far been terrible, which has served to simply annoy me on the matter. Like brobo coming in and posting the garbage about TvZ on Xel Naga which isn't relevant, and was simply there to mock me. None of the posts really, except yours actually, have really even been relevant to what I'm saying, but rather bashing, so forgive me if I'm super antsy on the subject. And I don't even agree with you on that matter (I'm not saying I'm right, mind you, I just don't agree). So overall, I've kept responding, looking for a decent answer that would at the very least satisfy me.



I've posted my reasons. You disagree... no need to continue arguing about it o-o;
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 22:51:54
January 20 2012 22:50 GMT
#105
On January 21 2012 07:43 rauk wrote:
racepicking does not make sense in this context because it's supposed to be like proleague. in proleague you need to choose a race before you are sent out on a map because intelligently race-picking for maps or counterpicking the opposing team's picks is supposed to be part of the team strategy in this kind of league format. if you were allowed to choose your race after being sent out on a map it eliminates part of the strategy in this format.

race picking in a team league might make more sense if it was all-kill style or bo3 between each player, but not this specific format.


Well, even if you wanted it that way (which still nullifies the "preparation" argument), would me saying I play ZvT instead of TvT effect that in any way at all? I mean, if you look at it, the situation doesn't actually change, as long as they know one of the players plays ZvT instead of TvT. All the information is still presented beforehand.

On January 21 2012 07:48 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 07:22 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 21 2012 06:03 LaGTTLizarD wrote:
Since when has CSL had any more prestige than other small leagues? If anything, its just been a fun school tourney with plenty of mediocre players with a few semipros sprinkled in here or there. I've played in it since BW, where if you had a lineup of solid C players in your school you'd be considered one of the better schools.

Only school with a "pro" player had NoNy if I recall.



From my perspective
1 . u offending the league u gonna play
2 There is a big prize pool so its not jst for fun .
3 CSL is bigger than any other small league since it actually has big sponsors backing them up.
4 You will be surprise of how many good ppl are around California.
5 You just offended 3/4 of the participant calling them mediocre.
6 Who are you to try to change the rules ?
7 Bw is 1 game Sc2 is another game.
8 There are alot of leagues that dont accept race picking .
9. Stop complaining and do your best , a league or tournament wont change the way the rules are set just because some1 doesnt like it.
10 if u dont like it then dont participate.


Cool, you have plenty of shitty points.

Having a disagreement or saying that CSL isn't *more* prestigious than other leagues is hardly offending. I'm giving my viewpoint.

If you honestly think I offended 3/4 of the participants by calling them mediocre than you're a friggin' idiot. Yes, 3/4 of the players are mediocre. Who the hell is disputing that. Have you seen the rosters for teams? Some don't have ANY players above diamond.

Who am I trying to change the rules? Is that even a fucking argument? If you don't agree with the rules, you're not supposed to voice your opinion? God damn dude, really? Did I say I wasn't going to participate anyways? Did I say it was a dealbreaker? No. In fact, I like CSL, and think it's pretty damn cool, hence me participating in it for the past few years, jackass.

CSL had its origins in BW and there is ZERO difference in how scheduling actually works, so no, different games is not even a remotely relevant argument.

There are lots of leagues that do accept race picking as well, especially the more prestigious leagues. Hence my point - if they are going to come up with a rule like this, I hope they have some logical and sound reasoning for it.

If I don't like it I'm going to voice my opinion. Just because you don't like a particular facet doesn't mean you have to boycott the entire thing. As I said before, I like CSL, I like the effort the admins have put into finding sponsors, making things happen, and throwing this event. Which is why I'm going to spend my weekend at the LAN as opposed to with family for Chinese New Year. In fact, it's one of the more fun leagues I've participated in.

From my perspective, you're an idiot.


On January 21 2012 07:15 Xeris wrote:
Fabled when did you turn into such a bitter human being, chill.


It's not even being bitter. As I just wrote, I think CSL is awesome. I just don't agree with one of your rules. The only reason I've been so adamant on posting about it is the actual reasoning given for it has thus far been terrible, which has served to simply annoy me on the matter. Like brobo coming in and posting the garbage about TvZ on Xel Naga which isn't relevant, and was simply there to mock me. None of the posts really, except yours actually, have really even been relevant to what I'm saying, but rather bashing, so forgive me if I'm super antsy on the subject. And I don't even agree with you on that matter (I'm not saying I'm right, mind you, I just don't agree). So overall, I've kept responding, looking for a decent answer that would at the very least satisfy me.



I've posted my reasons. You disagree... no need to continue arguing about it o-o;


Yeah, that's fine, I would have dropped it if other posts hadn't come up. I never intended it to sound like a deal breaker or anything.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 20 2012 22:50 GMT
#106
argument aside I just came here to say I saw pics of the setup on facebook earlier,

sick !! I wish I was there.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 20 2012 23:11 GMT
#107
Come to the Princeton LAN March 9-10 !
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
megumixbear
Profile Joined November 2008
United States192 Posts
January 20 2012 23:40 GMT
#108
Very delighted to be casting this! ♥ Thank you for having me!
Just happy~ "Gratitude gives birth to gratitude and ingratitude creates more ingratitude." -Mokichi Okada
LaG.Gaming
Profile Joined April 2011
United States288 Posts
January 21 2012 01:12 GMT
#109
On January 21 2012 07:22 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 06:03 LaGTTLizarD wrote:
Since when has CSL had any more prestige than other small leagues? If anything, its just been a fun school tourney with plenty of mediocre players with a few semipros sprinkled in here or there. I've played in it since BW, where if you had a lineup of solid C players in your school you'd be considered one of the better schools.

Only school with a "pro" player had NoNy if I recall.



From my perspective
1 . u offending the league u gonna play
2 There is a big prize pool so its not jst for fun .
3 CSL is bigger than any other small league since it actually has big sponsors backing them up.
4 You will be surprise of how many good ppl are around California.
5 You just offended 3/4 of the participant calling them mediocre.
6 Who are you to try to change the rules ?
7 Bw is 1 game Sc2 is another game.
8 There are alot of leagues that dont accept race picking .
9. Stop complaining and do your best , a league or tournament wont change the way the rules are set just because some1 doesnt like it.
10 if u dont like it then dont participate.


Cool, you have plenty of shitty points.

Having a disagreement or saying that CSL isn't *more* prestigious than other leagues is hardly offending. I'm giving my viewpoint.

If you honestly think I offended 3/4 of the participants by calling them mediocre than you're a friggin' idiot. Yes, 3/4 of the players are mediocre. Who the hell is disputing that. Have you seen the rosters for teams? Some don't have ANY players above diamond.

Who am I trying to change the rules? Is that even a fucking argument? If you don't agree with the rules, you're not supposed to voice your opinion? God damn dude, really? Did I say I wasn't going to participate anyways? Did I say it was a dealbreaker? No. In fact, I like CSL, and think it's pretty damn cool, hence me participating in it for the past few years, jackass.

CSL had its origins in BW and there is ZERO difference in how scheduling actually works, so no, different games is not even a remotely relevant argument.

There are lots of leagues that do accept race picking as well, especially the more prestigious leagues. Hence my point - if they are going to come up with a rule like this, I hope they have some logical and sound reasoning for it.

If I don't like it I'm going to voice my opinion. Just because you don't like a particular facet doesn't mean you have to boycott the entire thing. As I said before, I like CSL, I like the effort the admins have put into finding sponsors, making things happen, and throwing this event. Which is why I'm going to spend my weekend at the LAN as opposed to with family for Chinese New Year. In fact, it's one of the more fun leagues I've participated in.

From my perspective, you're an idiot.


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 07:15 Xeris wrote:
Fabled when did you turn into such a bitter human being, chill.


It's not even being bitter. As I just wrote, I think CSL is awesome. I just don't agree with one of your rules. The only reason I've been so adamant on posting about it is the actual reasoning given for it has thus far been terrible, which has served to simply annoy me on the matter. Like brobo coming in and posting the garbage about TvZ on Xel Naga which isn't relevant, and was simply there to mock me. None of the posts really, except yours actually, have really even been relevant to what I'm saying, but rather bashing, so forgive me if I'm super antsy on the subject. And I don't even agree with you on that matter (I'm not saying I'm right, mind you, I just don't agree). So overall, I've kept responding, looking for a decent answer that would at the very least satisfy me.




ILL CYA AT THE EVENT BRAH
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 21 2012 04:12 GMT
#110
Updated with the full schedule.

Note, we made a tentative list of schools we want to *cast*, but this is subject to change at a moments notice in an attempt to bring exposure to more schools!
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
January 21 2012 07:12 GMT
#111
What time can we check in
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 21 2012 07:41 GMT
#112
On January 21 2012 16:12 phodacbiet wrote:
What time can we check in


10
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 07:57:41
January 21 2012 07:57 GMT
#113
this thread is now about the #1 team in the entire world

houston #1 fightinggggg
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
January 21 2012 08:34 GMT
#114
USC gon win you bitches :p
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
January 21 2012 10:04 GMT
#115
On January 21 2012 17:34 sAfuRos wrote:
USC gon win you bitches :p


only if you actually show up -______________________________-
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 21 2012 14:59 GMT
#116
reminder: check in begins at 10am, its vital you squeeze in as much practice time as possible!
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
January 21 2012 15:00 GMT
#117
On January 21 2012 19:04 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 17:34 sAfuRos wrote:
USC gon win you bitches :p


only if you actually show up -______________________________-


BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE SWARM, RAUK
BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON QQ
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 21 2012 20:53 GMT
#118
UCSB vs. Cal first match on the stream:

www.twitch.tv/cstarleague
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
January 21 2012 21:05 GMT
#119
HOLY FUCK

WHAT IS THIS PRODUCTION
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
January 21 2012 21:05 GMT
#120
best bday present ever
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
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