EPTInterview <- lol, can't believe I didn't link it. Here you go!
MLG Providence Day 2 Live Report Thread - Page 326
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terialk
United States770 Posts
Interview <- lol, can't believe I didn't link it. Here you go! | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:35 mierin wrote:  I do miss the brilliance of Reaver/Templar + shuttle micro...You can still do similar stuff in sc2, for example HT + Warp Prism or Infestor + Overlord as zerg. These are good ways to protect the casters from the ghosts in vT matchups. It requires good unit control because the of the fast pace of the game. | ||
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:36 SeaSwift wrote: Anyone trying to argue about lack of micro in PvZ after seeing that game has surprisingly adept keyboard skills for a sloth. I'm not arguing about that game in particular or saying that PvZ lacks micro in general, just against protoss being the most micro intensive race as there's constant use of colossus and chargealots in every match up, whilst terran relies on heavy micro in all the matchups(unless you go mech, which nobody does percentage wise) | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Thats not Hot_bid, i'm pretty sure. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:39 KillAudio wrote: Nooooo marine king is out! (((((((didnt even know he was in Providence^^ | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:36 TheKefka wrote: Drops in BW are hardly more complicated.What makes a good drop successful is a good diversion and fast execution. Dropping in BW came down to a science as well in execution and the box. Not the easiest thing to do, aye. | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:39 KillAudio wrote: Nooooo marine king is out! (((((((No he's not. He has an extended series against sC, so it's a bo7 with MKP down 1-2 right now. | ||
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Katgram
France45 Posts
Out of 10 seeded players, only one survived in the WB. | ||
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Fandango
291 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:30 dcemuser wrote: It's not remotely easy to pull off. His sentry micro was sick. It was good but was largely unnecessary other than when the drones came and putting a control group into a warp prism is not sick micro by any means. Once the warp prism is set up and the sentries have done the ramp, there's very little micro to be done, he warped in a few zealots and had the void rays covering the prism from the few roaches that could spawn. I do not get why people jump on any opinion of a build as if it's an indictment of the player's skill anyway. Void ray into warp prism sentry drop isn't remotely new either, it's part of the mixup that stargate allows you to get, you either go two stargate with phoenix or one stargate and robo into a number of options including this. My issue with it is that it requires the zerg player to have adapted ahead of time by making units and positioning in the main base before the warp prism gets across and you can't easily scout the toss base because of the void rays. It's a very very good build but it abuses zerg's lack of stuff that can shoot up and distributed production heavily. You can't react to the warp prism in time because if you spawn everything on your main hatchery they can just pick up and go to the natural and get the ramp there. I don't get it, you guys are protosses, you play against 1-1-1, why don't you get what constitutes a build being abusive and why does my opinion of hating that sort of build irritate you? | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:34 Elem wrote: Banelings auto-detonate and nothing dies because of the ~1.5 second immunity after being vortexed (the "fix" to the archon toilet, but still works vs only Broodlords.) ??? This is completely not my experience at all... like 12+ banes and everything for the protoss that's ground dies when the vortex ends. I've had it happen many times to me (i open 2 base mothership into third all pvz's i play, high GM on SEA high masters on KR) and i guarantee you it was the reason why hero, if you watch that game over, intentionally DIDN'T put his archons into the vortex, and instead put them right outside of the vortex to hit the brood lords when they came out. In my opinion archon toilet is fine. in broodwar you'd get punished to hell by storm if you stacked 12 guardians right on top of each other, so zergs got used to making a large concave with them so only 1-2 would get hit by storms. zergs will eventually learn a similar response to the archon toilet in sc2 if they want to continue to go broods against late game protoss, so only max of 3 broodlords can get sucked into the toilet. Another thing that a lot of people dont realize is how bad archons can be against big enough numbers of broods without them all being vortexed. Because archons are large units (ie: they only fit through 2-hex gaps, same size as ultralisks and siege tanks), they struggle even more than most units to actually get around the broodlings to be able to get under the broodlords. | ||
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puzzl
United States263 Posts
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jeeneeus
1168 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:39 KillAudio wrote: Nooooo marine king is out! (((((((???? MLGSC2Scores: MarineKing wins 2-0 over QIM.DarkCell in OLR7. #MLG MKP used a mass BC/Raven army to win G2. | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:39 KillAudio wrote: Nooooo marine king is out! (((((((It's an extended series. sC starts with 2-1 score. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:37 Worldatlarge wrote: How did slow lings or the delayed tech affect the defense at all? Ret either has Muta's and holds or he happens to scout it and has units in the main. Not saying it's undefendable, but it can definitely come down to a coin toss, much like that game. Maybe he should have considered spawning so close to the enemy base when massing drones. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Doesn't look a thing like him either. | ||
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Masil
United States60 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:35 Zealot Lord wrote: Not remotely easy is an understatement lol - to micro like that while keeping up with macro the way Hero did can only be done by tier 1 pro-toss players in the world. That said, I feel like these sort of strategies rely so heavily on knowing your opponent, those who always go such insane amount of drones asap (like Ret) is most vulnerable to such builds. Most zergs will go for 60+ drones in response to a ffe, so the build would at least do good damage if not win you the game. | ||
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Jomppa
1225 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 20 2011 08:40 terialk wrote: Interview <- lol, can't believe I didn't link it. Here you go! Thank you kind sir. | ||
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