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Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2181
On November 14 2011 20:50 ElusoryX wrote:
this is so sad.. perfect protoss play against zerg still not enough..

edit: just like what sase said last time


perfect play? ive never seen naniwa make as many mistakes as he did in this game. seriously.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2182
Been a while since I've seen Protoss beat a Zerg in a long macro game =/
#1 Terran hater
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2183
On November 14 2011 20:49 Plexa wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:48 Kiarip wrote:
Killing 3 zerg bases is np when you have broodlords

It's np when the P army consists of really really weak units. Without VR/Mothership/something expensive you just can't deal with that many BLs

Weak ? colossus, archons, HT and far far ahead in upgrades, how is that weak ? only other t3 unit he was missing is carrier which is shit.
What the guy you quote said is true and you know it.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:51:45
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2184
On November 14 2011 20:50 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:48 Dreamer.T wrote:
Wish Stephano would give Code-A a try.
I reckon Ro8 at least for Stephano. That guy is just too talented.


Code A no longer has a Ro8. It ends after the Ro24, with the 12 winners becoming auto-Code S in the next season.
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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2185
On November 14 2011 20:49 MCMXVI wrote:
Nani ((((( Premature ggrackulation

1-1-3 upgrades and only 10 supply behind lucky


Fix'd for lulz, but...

Not premature by any means, Mutas were clearing his mineral line at his 4th and his army wasn't large enough to kill the Zerg.
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2186
On November 14 2011 20:50 parazice wrote:
i hate to say this but Nani need Mothership XD

Mothership is pretty good lategame vs zerg blord infestor so theres nothing wrong in it
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:52:25
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2187
On November 14 2011 20:50 Grettin wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:49 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
That was borderline early-leaving. I reckon Lucky's economy wasn't top-notch and Lucky was licking his wounds as well. Naniwa needed to hang in there longer...


Eh, it was pretty much over. 4 (or 5?) bases against 2-3 of Naniwas. Lots of broodlords out, mutalisks still alive etc. Might as well just GG and get to the next game.
Agreed for the Broodlord part: There were too many BL's + spines + 2 infestors = zerg's version trench warfare. However Mutas were pretty low in count and he was definitely low on Economy. Unless I missed the drones being burrowed at his 4th/5th when they were destroyed?
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 14 2011 11:51 GMT
#2188
On November 14 2011 20:50 stonetalon wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:48 RowdierBob wrote:
Damn that's a tough unit combo for toss to beat...

How do you take on mass BL/muta/bane like that?

........vortex? can't think of anything else, maybe perfect storms but if the zerg is good you wont get those off with BL's targeting the HT's.


Archon/stalker/voidray and you won't even break a sweat
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Bocian
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland259 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2189
On November 14 2011 20:49 Iamyournoob wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:48 mango_destroyer wrote:
damn lucky is good


What did he exactly do that causes you to make this statement? And yes, this a serious question I ask.


Lucky denied early aggression very well, he harassed a lot and didn't lose to many units (once he flew mutas next to the stalkers) and his positioning during the big fights was really good. It's really not that easy.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2190
On November 14 2011 20:51 KristianJS wrote:
That's a harsh unit comp by Lucky. Try to blink into broodlords? Get owned by banelings. Try to run away? Get fungald.


Now you know how Terrans feel against Broods. :p
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2191
Naniwa not walling off?
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2192
On November 14 2011 20:49 JohnMatrix wrote:
spines + broodlords + infestors how you can counter that ?


MS + Archons.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2193
On November 14 2011 20:49 pPingu wrote:
How did lucky win with no upgrades?


On November 14 2011 20:49 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 20:48 Kiarip wrote:
Killing 3 zerg bases is np when you have broodlords

It's np when the P army consists of really really weak units. Without VR/Mothership/something expensive you just can't deal with that many BLs


thats why.. imagine 3-3 sentrys against 0-0 marauders.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2194
On November 14 2011 20:51 SuperStyle wrote:
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On November 14 2011 20:49 Plexa wrote:
On November 14 2011 20:48 Kiarip wrote:
Killing 3 zerg bases is np when you have broodlords

It's np when the P army consists of really really weak units. Without VR/Mothership/something expensive you just can't deal with that many BLs

Weak ? colossus, archons, HT and far far ahead in upgrades, how is that weak ? only other t3 unit he was missing is carrier which is shit.
What the guy you quote said is true and you know it.

Note how Naniwa was crushing when he had Colossus/Templar/Archons etc...
Then when he lost them all, he only made stalkers - THAT was the problem.
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2195
You need insane amount of archons + stalkers + colossus to combat a resource intensive army like that.
Not mass stalkers alone. We need to see more protosses do this.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2196
On November 14 2011 20:50 stonetalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 20:48 RowdierBob wrote:
Damn that's a tough unit combo for toss to beat...

How do you take on mass BL/muta/bane like that?

........vortex? can't think of anything else, maybe perfect storms but if the zerg is good you wont get those off with BL's targeting the HT's.

definitely need some form of good splash damage, with that ridiculous broodlord count you probably need to tech to voids, blink stalkers won't work at that point.

mothership would've been insanely helpful
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2197
I think people are forgetting how all of naniwa's attempts to put pressure on Lucky early on failed completely. Lucky was only able to do all of that because of his MASSIVE economy in relation to naniwa. The broodlords killed naniwa, but he was behind for a big chunk of that game.
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:52:52
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2198
On November 14 2011 20:52 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 20:51 KristianJS wrote:
That's a harsh unit comp by Lucky. Try to blink into broodlords? Get owned by banelings. Try to run away? Get fungald.


Now you know how Terrans feel against Broods. :p

Ghosts. Snipe. EMP
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
zanmat0
Profile Joined December 2010
188 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2199
On November 14 2011 20:50 ElusoryX wrote:
this is so sad.. perfect protoss play against zerg still not enough..


This is my feeling as well. But I think it has more to do with the map size than with PvZ imbalance.
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
November 14 2011 11:52 GMT
#2200
On November 14 2011 20:52 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 20:51 KristianJS wrote:
That's a harsh unit comp by Lucky. Try to blink into broodlords? Get owned by banelings. Try to run away? Get fungald.


Now you know how Terrans feel against Broods. :p
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