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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
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On October 23 2011 07:35 habbey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:33 Juvant wrote:
Yeah, poor guy. He's only guaranteed at the very least 25,000 dollars.
I agree he's getting the raw end of things, but I doubt he'll be losing sleep over not being the fan favorite. I think you have greatly misunderstood MVP and korean culture as a whole. MVP consistently says how sad that the fans "hate" him and korea has the highest suicide rate for celebrities of any country. So likely he will "lose" sleep over fans not liking him.
https://twitter.com/#!/sc2immvp
Show some support for the guy then, he's an awesome player and very well mannered.
(Sorry If I'm being annoying btw, I think I posted his twitter at least twice in these blizzcons)
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On October 23 2011 07:32 TooN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:28 Medrea wrote:On October 23 2011 07:26 tuho12345 wrote:
How did Nani lost to Sen guys? No one knows. Mysteries like this flow in magic rivers throughout the universe. I like this.
You get it?
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On October 23 2011 07:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:33 PaeZ wrote:
Why exactly its MVP hated? he looks kind of cool :S He isn't hated, but his solid defensive play doesn't really provide the same allure as more aggressive players. It comes down to preferences more so than hatred.
The ones who get it, like for example artosis, knows how amazing he is... the crowd just pick the underdog... which is so crazy to me.. the underdog is the underdog because they dont work as hard and crowd picks the underdog LOL
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On October 23 2011 07:36 Rimah wrote:
I think MVP is "missing" two things:
- a unique style: He's just playing the standard style against his opponents. Not that that's a bad thing, but it makes his games less exciting and characteristic for him. On the other hand we have people like MKP (marine aggression), MC ( perfect ffs everytime), Bomber ( macro and rallying 15 marines at a time).
- not being the best:
when you expect a player to win convincingly, he basically can never reach or overcome your expectations and his games are always just "meh" even when he wins.
yeah but he does it incredibly, incredibly well. he set the bar, man. his TvZ is inspiring when you see how many waves of units he is able to produce and how consistently he does so.
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On October 23 2011 07:35 Shika wrote:
I just got home after being away all day, happy I didn't miss the finals.
But i've got to ask, why didn't they show Naniwa vs Sen? That's crazy, it was the game that decides who gets in the spots paying money (top 3), a 10,000 dollar game (atleast).
There's been so many weird decisions by blizzard this tournament. Maybe they should let IEM (or MLG) host the main tournament next year like they did for the euro qualifiers? If they can't do it themselves properly..
Well, whatever, go go Nestea!
High level ZvP would have been awesome too 
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Season 3 was the best imo (biased cause only season i got glad). Stunherald for the win. On a side not, when is MVP and Nestea playing?
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On October 23 2011 07:37 Paperplane wrote:
Watching these WoW games makes my heart bleed man. So glad I stopped playing my warrior :D Wizard everywhere. Warrior team vs any MLS means you just sit in novas for 15 minutes : (
Apologies for the wow but it's better then trivia >.>
Wizards everywhere indeed T__T
At least that was a pretty epic comeback series though.
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On October 23 2011 07:35 MonkSEA wrote:
WoW players are so bad mannered..
They are bad mannered because they have not left the house since blizzcon last year. Less fresh oxygen makes you a tad angry.
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On October 23 2011 07:37 Al Bundy wrote:The wow community is generally very bad mannered... One of the worst communities I've ever encountered.
I've seen some bad stuff on the WoW forums, but this didn't look very bad mannered... They got very excited when they won, which a lot of SC2 players don't actually, and they shook their opponents hands and smiled. Did I miss something? ;S
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On October 23 2011 07:25 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:24 felisconcolori wrote:
Conspiracy theory corner... (put on your tinfoil hats) - since the big news for Blizzcon on the StarCraft 2 front is Heart of the Swarm, do you think they might have, I dunno, stacked the deck a bit to give zerg a good chance of winning? (Assuming that they didn't get close positions on shattered temple. -.-)
And then they have Nestea as a bit of a safety net.
Okay, I'm taking off my foil chapeau and being mesmerized by this fascinating trivia. Around 85 seconds for a probe to pay itself off? Fascinating! No, better players won.Deal with it
No doubt better players won. (Note: I'm not a Zerg player, and am not all that fond of Zerg in general.) I'm just saying that they did invite a lot of Zerg players to be in the tournament. And to the "what would that accomplish?" side - possibly give a small boost to Heart of the Swarm, as the Zerg expansion comes out next and a Zerg winning would fit nicely in that theme.
Like I said, tinfoil hat conspiracy. I don't think it's likely, just something that passed through my head.
I still think Nestea's going to take it. But MVP can't be too bummed about the trip - he's still going to make enough money to ease the GSL pain and support his training and future tournament expenses.
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Well that WoW Arena match was less painful to watch than last year. That's about the nicest thing I can say about it. I only know what was going on because I played a Shaman years and years ago. Looks like PvP healing is pretty much the same. Wonder why they're better than Druids now.
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Soe has been doing this girl next door look all blizzcon. I kinda like it.
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wow's esport is a joke. they can't balance PVP without destroying PVE.
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On October 23 2011 07:38 Cain0 wrote:They are bad mannered because they have left the house since blizzcon last year. Less fresh oxygen makes you a tad angry.
You say that when SC2 players practice for 10 hours a day. Stop being an idiot.
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Jesus that WoW match was INCREDIBLE.
So tense the entire time. Having played mage and priest in arena (not glad-level tho  ) I can tell you actually being in those situations is 1000x more intense than anything I've ever experienced in SC2 - because you have so much to keep track of - the positioning, cooldowns, mana level and health level of 6 people simultaneously - to be able to predict the opponent teams moves in advance and be one step ahead when every global cooldown counts (~1.5sec) can get overwhelming.
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On October 23 2011 07:38 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:35 habbey wrote:On October 23 2011 07:33 Juvant wrote:
Yeah, poor guy. He's only guaranteed at the very least 25,000 dollars.
I agree he's getting the raw end of things, but I doubt he'll be losing sleep over not being the fan favorite. I think you have greatly misunderstood MVP and korean culture as a whole. MVP consistently says how sad that the fans "hate" him and korea has the highest suicide rate for celebrities of any country. So likely he will "lose" sleep over fans not liking him. https://twitter.com/#!/sc2immvpShow some support for the guy then, he's an awesome player and very well mannered. (Sorry If I'm being annoying btw, I think I posted his twitter at least twice in these blizzcons)
i've actually already tweeted at him today, created a tiwtter account especiall for that in fact =p
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On October 23 2011 07:38 Cain0 wrote:They are bad mannered because they have left the house since blizzcon last year. Less fresh oxygen makes you a tad angry.
To be honest I'd be willing to bet that the SC2 community is just as BM, but you don't see it because it's mostly a 1v1 competitive game, or in team games there's very little communication compared to WoW. You can see it from the fact that the official b.net forums for both games are equally awful.
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On October 23 2011 07:40 Medrea wrote:
Soe has been doing this girl next door look all blizzcon. I kinda like it.
The PvP wow community hate her lol
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On October 23 2011 07:40 jubil wrote:Jesus that WoW match was INCREDIBLE. So tense the entire time. Having played mage and priest in arena (not glad-level tho ) I can tell you actually being in those situations is 1000x more intense than anything I've ever experienced in SC2 - because you have so much to keep track of - the positioning, cooldowns, mana level and health level of 6 people simultaneously - to be able to predict the opponent teams moves in advance and be one step ahead when every global cooldown counts (~1.5sec) can get overwhelming.
I've played text based games that were more intense...
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On October 23 2011 07:37 Paperplane wrote:
Watching these WoW games makes my heart bleed man. So glad I stopped playing my warrior :D Wizard everywhere. Warrior team vs any MLS means you just sit in novas for 15 minutes : (
Apologies for the wow but it's better then trivia >.>
No way man! We have time to discuss which answers might be correct !!
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