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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
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On October 23 2011 07:39 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:37 Al Bundy wrote:On October 23 2011 07:35 MonkSEA wrote:
WoW players are so bad mannered.. The wow community is generally very bad mannered... One of the worst communities I've ever encountered. I've seen some bad stuff on the WoW forums, but this didn't look very bad mannered... They got very excited when they won, which a lot of SC2 players don't actually, and they shook their opponents hands and smiled. Did I miss something? ;S
Something along the lines came out of one of them: "Get shit on"
Is what I heard coming from the winning team when their physical bodies were facing the losing team.
Edit: Fixed my quote
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On October 23 2011 07:39 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:37 Al Bundy wrote:On October 23 2011 07:35 MonkSEA wrote:
WoW players are so bad mannered.. The wow community is generally very bad mannered... One of the worst communities I've ever encountered. I've seen some bad stuff on the WoW forums, but this didn't look very bad mannered... They got very excited when they won, which a lot of SC2 players don't actually, and they shook their opponents hands and smiled. Did I miss something? ;S
You missed the dude scream "Get shit on"
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On October 23 2011 07:39 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:25 windsupernova wrote:On October 23 2011 07:24 felisconcolori wrote:
Conspiracy theory corner... (put on your tinfoil hats) - since the big news for Blizzcon on the StarCraft 2 front is Heart of the Swarm, do you think they might have, I dunno, stacked the deck a bit to give zerg a good chance of winning? (Assuming that they didn't get close positions on shattered temple. -.-)
And then they have Nestea as a bit of a safety net.
Okay, I'm taking off my foil chapeau and being mesmerized by this fascinating trivia. Around 85 seconds for a probe to pay itself off? Fascinating! No, better players won.Deal with it No doubt better players won. (Note: I'm not a Zerg player, and am not all that fond of Zerg in general.) I'm just saying that they did invite a lot of Zerg players to be in the tournament. And to the "what would that accomplish?" side - possibly give a small boost to Heart of the Swarm, as the Zerg expansion comes out next and a Zerg winning would fit nicely in that theme. Like I said, tinfoil hat conspiracy. I don't think it's likely, just something that passed through my head. I still think Nestea's going to take it. But MVP can't be too bummed about the trip - he's still going to make enough money to ease the GSL pain and support his training and future tournament expenses.
Most of the players qualified, including 8 out of the 9 Zergs. NesTea qualified through GSL points.
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On October 23 2011 07:39 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:25 windsupernova wrote:On October 23 2011 07:24 felisconcolori wrote:
Conspiracy theory corner... (put on your tinfoil hats) - since the big news for Blizzcon on the StarCraft 2 front is Heart of the Swarm, do you think they might have, I dunno, stacked the deck a bit to give zerg a good chance of winning? (Assuming that they didn't get close positions on shattered temple. -.-)
And then they have Nestea as a bit of a safety net.
Okay, I'm taking off my foil chapeau and being mesmerized by this fascinating trivia. Around 85 seconds for a probe to pay itself off? Fascinating! No, better players won.Deal with it No doubt better players won. (Note: I'm not a Zerg player, and am not all that fond of Zerg in general.) I'm just saying that they did invite a lot of Zerg players to be in the tournament. And to the "what would that accomplish?" side - possibly give a small boost to Heart of the Swarm, as the Zerg expansion comes out next and a Zerg winning would fit nicely in that theme. Like I said, tinfoil hat conspiracy. I don't think it's likely, just something that passed through my head. I still think Nestea's going to take it. But MVP can't be too bummed about the trip - he's still going to make enough money to ease the GSL pain and support his training and future tournament expenses.
They didn't invite(well, they kinda did, but the invites were for the qualifier) anyone, those guys except the chinese(they had to replace the other guys who had visa problems) won their spot.
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Well this year's arenas are better than last year's lol
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On October 23 2011 07:40 jubil wrote:Jesus that WoW match was INCREDIBLE. So tense the entire time. Having played mage and priest in arena (not glad-level tho  ) I can tell you actually being in those situations is 1000x more intense than anything I've ever experienced in SC2 - because you have so much to keep track of - the positioning, cooldowns, mana level and health level of 6 people simultaneously - to be able to predict the opponent teams moves in advance and be one step ahead when every global cooldown counts (~1.5sec) can get overwhelming.
It would be like, literally twice as good. If they implemented any kind of top down observer camera. Literally any one of 10 things can pull that game out of its abomitable quagmire.
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haha these questions are great
"Who coined the term Terrible terrible damage?"
Dustin Browler
Chuck Norris
Bruce Lee
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On October 23 2011 07:39 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:37 Al Bundy wrote:On October 23 2011 07:35 MonkSEA wrote:
WoW players are so bad mannered.. The wow community is generally very bad mannered... One of the worst communities I've ever encountered. I've seen some bad stuff on the WoW forums, but this didn't look very bad mannered... They got very excited when they won, which a lot of SC2 players don't actually, and they shook their opponents hands and smiled. Did I miss something? ;S
I don't know about the pro players, but the general playerbase tends to have an awful behavior, on the forums like you said, as well as in-game.
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On October 23 2011 07:39 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:25 windsupernova wrote:On October 23 2011 07:24 felisconcolori wrote:
Conspiracy theory corner... (put on your tinfoil hats) - since the big news for Blizzcon on the StarCraft 2 front is Heart of the Swarm, do you think they might have, I dunno, stacked the deck a bit to give zerg a good chance of winning? (Assuming that they didn't get close positions on shattered temple. -.-)
And then they have Nestea as a bit of a safety net.
Okay, I'm taking off my foil chapeau and being mesmerized by this fascinating trivia. Around 85 seconds for a probe to pay itself off? Fascinating! No, better players won.Deal with it No doubt better players won. (Note: I'm not a Zerg player, and am not all that fond of Zerg in general.) I'm just saying that they did invite a lot of Zerg players to be in the tournament. And to the "what would that accomplish?" side - possibly give a small boost to Heart of the Swarm, as the Zerg expansion comes out next and a Zerg winning would fit nicely in that theme. Like I said, tinfoil hat conspiracy. I don't think it's likely, just something that passed through my head. I still think Nestea's going to take it. But MVP can't be too bummed about the trip - he's still going to make enough money to ease the GSL pain and support his training and future tournament expenses.
these "invites" are not really invites since everyone who is here qualified through their regional ladder tournament... so your theory is -________-
edit : except for nestea and mvp
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On October 23 2011 07:37 Paperplane wrote:
Watching these WoW games makes my heart bleed man. So glad I stopped playing my warrior :D Wizard everywhere. Warrior team vs any MLS means you just sit in novas for 15 minutes : (
Apologies for the wow but it's better then trivia >.>
Actually Warrior team vs MLS means warrior dies within the first minute :p
Oh well I actually enjoy watching these WoW arenas, competetive WoW PvP used to be good, got shit, and has now taken a step up again really. This is alot better than I had expected. Sad to see Skill Capped beat DNAW though, I've been following Dakkroth a bit and that guy is just great. Don't like the attitude of Skill Capped.
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wow arena is tense, but there isnt really any stratetic point of view on mirror matches and its almost impposible to balance making like 90% of possible 3 comps bad, meaning the game have more mirrors than is GSL code S
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On October 23 2011 07:41 Onox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:39 marttorn wrote:On October 23 2011 07:37 Al Bundy wrote:On October 23 2011 07:35 MonkSEA wrote:
WoW players are so bad mannered.. The wow community is generally very bad mannered... One of the worst communities I've ever encountered. I've seen some bad stuff on the WoW forums, but this didn't look very bad mannered... They got very excited when they won, which a lot of SC2 players don't actually, and they shook their opponents hands and smiled. Did I miss something? ;S You missed the dude scream "Get shit on" @_@
"Get shit on" is an old wow thing lol
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On October 23 2011 07:39 Arolis wrote:
Well that WoW Arena match was less painful to watch than last year. That's about the nicest thing I can say about it. I only know what was going on because I played a Shaman years and years ago. Looks like PvP healing is pretty much the same. Wonder why they're better than Druids now.
Burst healing. Resto shamans have a new talent increases their healing more the lower their target is. Combine that with other % modifiers and you got like 410% increase on a crit heal on a low target.
You can heal somebody from 5% to 100% with a single healing crit if you're lucky.
Druis have been awful all expansion. You can only cast lifeblooms on one target and hots just don't cut it right now with the insane burst damage and control.
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On October 23 2011 07:37 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On October 23 2011 07:30 sirreginold wrote:
I think even Polt has more fans than MVP. I don't get that. naw, no way. I feel like people don't even really acknowledge polt that much xD. For example, I noticed in the gsl intro last night they acknowledged Nestea, MC, MVP, and even fruit for their respective win(s). Don't think I saw any mention of polt for winning the super >.> For Terran players, I think in terms of fans, it's: MKP >>> MMA >>>>>>>> Bomber, MVP >> Polt. I'm not sure how many fans Bomber has, actually. But he's not a big crowd favorite either.
Bomber is pretty cocky with his premature bm, Polt beat MC and MMA so no love for him lol.
MKP always does some crazy shit with his own style so every one loves him despite most of his wins are on 2 bases lol.
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Damn shame Blizzard for not showing Nani vs Sen.
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On October 23 2011 07:40 Medrea wrote:
Soe has been doing this girl next door look all blizzcon. I kinda like it.
That's what she always does! Remember when she used to cast on that german channel (?) with Day9?
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On October 23 2011 07:42 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:37 babylon wrote:On October 23 2011 07:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On October 23 2011 07:30 sirreginold wrote:
I think even Polt has more fans than MVP. I don't get that. naw, no way. I feel like people don't even really acknowledge polt that much xD. For example, I noticed in the gsl intro last night they acknowledged Nestea, MC, MVP, and even fruit for their respective win(s). Don't think I saw any mention of polt for winning the super >.> For Terran players, I think in terms of fans, it's: MKP >>> MMA >>>>>>>> Bomber, MVP >> Polt. I'm not sure how many fans Bomber has, actually. But he's not a big crowd favorite either. Bomber is pretty cocky with his premature bm, Polt beat MC and MMA so no love for him lol. MKP always does some crazy shit with his own style so every one loves him despite most of his wins are on 2 bases lol.
MKP more fans than MVP because of reddit.
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On October 23 2011 07:40 Omsomsoms wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:38 Cain0 wrote:On October 23 2011 07:35 MonkSEA wrote:
WoW players are so bad mannered.. They are bad mannered because they have left the house since blizzcon last year. Less fresh oxygen makes you a tad angry. To be honest I'd be willing to bet that the SC2 community is just as BM, but you don't see it because it's mostly a 1v1 competitive game, or in team games there's very little communication compared to WoW. You can see it from the fact that the official b.net forums for both games are equally awful.
Every official video game forum is full of trolls and retards... thats why things like TL exist... please dont ever mention the official forums as an actual community... think of it more of a dark place where you shouldnt ever go.
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On October 23 2011 07:38 Theeakoz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On October 23 2011 07:33 PaeZ wrote:
Why exactly its MVP hated? he looks kind of cool :S He isn't hated, but his solid defensive play doesn't really provide the same allure as more aggressive players. It comes down to preferences more so than hatred. The ones who get it, like for example artosis, knows how amazing he is... the crowd just pick the underdog... which is so crazy to me.. the underdog is the underdog because they dont work as hard and crowd picks the underdog LOL
This is false and wrong. With equal amounts of training, some will always be better than other, whatever you consider.
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On October 23 2011 07:39 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 07:25 windsupernova wrote:On October 23 2011 07:24 felisconcolori wrote:
Conspiracy theory corner... (put on your tinfoil hats) - since the big news for Blizzcon on the StarCraft 2 front is Heart of the Swarm, do you think they might have, I dunno, stacked the deck a bit to give zerg a good chance of winning? (Assuming that they didn't get close positions on shattered temple. -.-)
And then they have Nestea as a bit of a safety net.
Okay, I'm taking off my foil chapeau and being mesmerized by this fascinating trivia. Around 85 seconds for a probe to pay itself off? Fascinating! No, better players won.Deal with it No doubt better players won. (Note: I'm not a Zerg player, and am not all that fond of Zerg in general.) I'm just saying that they did invite a lot of Zerg players to be in the tournament. And to the "what would that accomplish?" side - possibly give a small boost to Heart of the Swarm, as the Zerg expansion comes out next and a Zerg winning would fit nicely in that theme. Like I said, tinfoil hat conspiracy. I don't think it's likely, just something that passed through my head. I still think Nestea's going to take it. But MVP can't be too bummed about the trip - he's still going to make enough money to ease the GSL pain and support his training and future tournament expenses.
And a retarded conspiracy, since the korean players were invites, the other regions had a tournament to qualify through. Don't post retarded conspiracy theories when the very idea of it itself shows ignorance towards the invitation process.
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