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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word. TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players. - p4NDemik | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:12 Elean wrote: Thank you Blizzcon for showing the true balance of the game. Tournament maps are so zerg favored that people forget what it's like to play on ladder maps. And that's why the GSL is a ZvZ fest... | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:05 bittman wrote: Common complaint I hear is that his play isn't interesting enough. He's a very very solid terran player, and in a way he's the safest of the bunch. But I think it was sort of shown perfectly vs MMA that though his macro might be the best, he's largely a turtle-to-max-then-win player. Not saying that's all he does. I know he can do any strategy in the book, but his "style" seems to fall back on security. Players like MMA are fan favourites for his risky drop play and unique builds. MVP's risk-taking is low, and though he often wins it's usually pretty safe. I'm sort of a fan, but his safety can make some games a little dull and so I'm not as much a fan of his play as I am for players like DRG and MC. Yeah, compared to other players like MMA, he plays a non-flashy "boring" style. MMA's a fan-favorite because he pretty much always plays entertaining, scrappy games. With MVP, it's usually just safe, standard play into a roflstomp; it's like watching a chess game. With MMA, on the other hand, it's like watching two guys get down and dirty. Also, if I recall correctly, MVP was also criticized for extremely boring play in BW as well. (Funny thing is that Bomber plays a similar style of turtling and straight macro as MVP, but his overall craziness and showmanship gives his game some extra "oomph" to it, even though he's not nearly as consistent as MVP. For some reason, Bomber's games always feel more incisive and sharp to me, while MVP's feels slow and steady.) It's kind of like the difference between, say, Curious and DRG. DRG's flashy as hell with his playstyle, but I wouldn't say he's better than Curious, who's good at two match-ups (ZvZ and ZvP) instead of just one (ZvT, which Curious is not bad at as well). Overall I'd say Curious's style is far superior to DRG's, but it's kind of boring to watch since it's so standard and safe. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:10 redviper wrote: ?? How many losses has MVP had in the last month? He lost one match to MMA and one to Nestea. Who else has beaten him? More importantly you aren't a true fan if you can't support your guy through loses. I still love FruitDealer and he has been losing for almost a year. Same with Moon. And while I am an MVP fan he doesn't fall into the territory of the above two who are really inconsistent, MVP certainly wins a lot lot more than he loses. He lost to Bomber in the mlg global invitational. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
And he did it in the best way possible actually. He said "these positions make it very hard for Sen." In a game where everything is supposed to be proper and balanced, this says MILES about the game and how he feels about it. | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:05 doihy wrote: If you haven't been to a live event so far, here's how the crowd works majority of the time. They cheer in the order of: Is Idra/ Huk playing? Cheer for them Is Boxer playing? Cheer for him Are there foreigners playing? Cheer for the foreigner Is Protoss playing? Cheer for P. Is Zerg playing? Cheer for Z. Who is the underdog? Cheer for him. Nobody seems to like Terran in the crowd most of the time. People also watched MMA grow from a unknown guy who got amazing victories over top-class players in the GSTL. They saw their wild-card underdog player grow to one of those top players. MVP never really was an underdog. It seems that he always has this extremely polished builds that smash his opponents down. While MMA had some extremely nice come-back victories in his beginning at GSTL/GSL (I remember some really nice close games vs DRG), MVP either smashes his opponents or gets knocked out early. | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:02 Thrax wrote: I thought it was Bo5 but I think I'm wrong. MVP has to win 2 sets according to Liquipedia yep he's down 0-2 | ||
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Mike15xp
United States595 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:12 Elean wrote: Thank you Blizzcon for showing the true balance of the game. Tournament maps are so zerg favored that people forget what it's like to play on ladder maps. the true imbalance you mean? or at least i hope so ... | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
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secretary bird
447 Posts
Besides Sen would have lost either way and a ZvZ final against Nestea would be beyond terrible anyway. | ||
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Elean
689 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote: And that's why the GSL is a ZvZ fest... Pretty much yes. If GSL were using ladder maps, I don't think there would be any Z in code S left. | ||
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sharktopus.
United States456 Posts
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote: And that's why the GSL is a ZvZ fest... Yep that guy is completly right, way more zergs than other races on the GSL. | ||
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TheAngryZergling
United States387 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:08 Asymmetric wrote: What? It mean engaging in a duel. i.e. fighting. no, "duking it out" means fighting. google search for "duking off" yields About 245 results none of the top of which are related to fighting. If it has less than 1000 hits on google it cannot b google search results for "duking it out" yields About 17,400,000 results. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:15 Elean wrote: Pretty much yes. If GSL were using ladder maps, I don't think there would be any Z in code S left. Haha, Z whining in a tournament where 2 of the top 3 are Zerg playing on ladder maps? nice | ||
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Wildsound
United Kingdom144 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:15 sharktopus. wrote: What's left to be streamed, just the grand final? if so, when does that start? I believe coverage starts in like 45 mins from now | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:15 secretary bird wrote: How do Zergs like Stephano own everyone on ladder if its so impossible. Besides Sen would have lost either way and a ZvZ final against Nestea would be beyond terrible anyway. The thumbs down feature works wonders | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:14 Mike15xp wrote: the true imbalance you mean? or at least i hope so ... Same thing. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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Nash
151 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:04 TheAngryZergling wrote: lol @ "duking off". duking it out meets jerking off. somebody get day9 a girl or at least a bathroom break and a kleenex. someone has tricked you. it means no such thing. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:15 sharktopus. wrote: What's left to be streamed, just the grand final? if so, when does that start? No, we will also get exclusive footage of MMA poisoning Mvp's food. | ||
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