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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
October 22 2011 22:17 GMT
#2901
On October 23 2011 07:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:15 secretary bird wrote:
How do Zergs like Stephano own everyone on ladder if its so impossible.

Besides Sen would have lost either way and a ZvZ final against Nestea would be beyond terrible anyway.


The thumbs down feature works wonders


Stephano doesn't have shattered thumbed down.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
October 22 2011 22:17 GMT
#2902
Thorzain is known as spoon terran. Slowly pushing and solid play so I don't think the strat play makes any sense to not like someone.
Wildsound
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
October 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#2903
Im enjoying the angry wow players on the other stream atm! One guy just lost the plot, was jumping around and everything!
http://soundcloud.com/dj-wildsound http://www.youtube.com/MrWildsound ¦ Sage, Creator, Huk, JYP, Hero, MaNa, White-ra
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#2904
On October 23 2011 07:11 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:08 Mouzone wrote:
So theorycrafting, what could Sen actually have done that game to have a chance to win?

What Artosis said: he had to make an unscoutable assumption (i.e. guess) and use this 'knowledge' to decide on when to start making units.


Yeah, I guess meeting MVP's army mid map before he has stationed his tanks etc. would be optimal. It would require a quite early army though I suppose.
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
October 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#2905
Not "duking off", it's more "duking it out". I've heard people use this expression quite a few times, and have used it myself a few times.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
October 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#2906
in america people root for the underdog rather than the better player. somehow tied in with the american dream etc
LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
October 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#2907
On October 23 2011 07:13 babylon wrote:
It's kind of like the difference between, say, Curious and DRG. DRG's flashy as hell with his playstyle, but I wouldn't say he's better than Curious, who's good at two match-ups (ZvZ and ZvP) instead of just one (ZvT, which Curious is not bad at as well). Overall I'd say Curious's style is far superior to DRG's, but it's kind of boring to watch since it's so standard and safe.

Funny how you say DRG has bad ZvZ when it's actually very good.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russel
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#2908
Sen could've won with some variation of an all-in that counters MVP's build without being obviously scoutable. Since Nestea already blew the roach-ling all-in, I'm thinking fast baneling bust. Now, don't expect me to know how Sen would've done such a feat - that's something only he can figure out through practicing new builds against good opponents.

That said, I doubt Sen or MVP practices that map on close positions regularly. Blizzcon is pretty much the only major tournament still using it.
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
October 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#2909
On October 23 2011 07:18 Wildsound wrote:
Im enjoying the angry wow players on the other stream atm! One guy just lost the plot, was jumping around and everything!

It was Snutz, lock on the team that won that game. He was screaming and jumping cuz he was happy. Imo he's super annoying.
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
October 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#2910
id still love to hear the logic behind why some people think its easier to win two bo3 rather than one bo5
NagAfightinG
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom270 Posts
October 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#2911
LOL @ TRIVIA ABOUT LOST TEMPLE HAS SHORTEST RUSH DISTANCE HAHAHAHA
We live like animals thinking of the afterlive
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:21:09
October 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#2912
That guy meant that laddering as Zerg is too hard for him and he could thumb down too so..
Wildsound
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
October 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#2913
On October 23 2011 07:19 Warfie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:18 Wildsound wrote:
Im enjoying the angry wow players on the other stream atm! One guy just lost the plot, was jumping around and everything!

It was Snutz, lock on the team that won that game. He was screaming and jumping cuz he was happy. Imo he's super annoying.


Oh well if he on the winning team, I would have just taken that advantage and just carried on with the game 2v2!
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#2914
On October 23 2011 07:16 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:15 Elean wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:12 Elean wrote:
Thank you Blizzcon for showing the true balance of the game.
Tournament maps are so zerg favored that people forget what it's like to play on ladder maps.

And that's why the GSL is a ZvZ fest...

Pretty much yes.
If GSL were using ladder maps, I don't think there would be any Z in code S left.


Haha, Z whining in a tournament where 2 of the top 3 are Zerg playing on ladder maps?

nice

Look at the contestants entering it, for the most part this two per server creates some very obvious winners.
I don't think balance can be reasonably determined, but we do get reminded in a rather brutal fashion just how much close spawns sucks.
An all in attack or nothing, if MVP had made less hellions and more tanks vs Nestea (like he did vs Sen), that would have been different.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#2915
On October 23 2011 07:18 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:11 Grumbels wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:08 Mouzone wrote:
So theorycrafting, what could Sen actually have done that game to have a chance to win?

What Artosis said: he had to make an unscoutable assumption (i.e. guess) and use this 'knowledge' to decide on when to start making units.


Yeah, I guess meeting MVP's army mid map before he has stationed his tanks etc. would be optimal. It would require a quite early army though I suppose.

It would require Zerg to be all inning at the exact time Terran moves out. That's not very likely at all.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 22:22:04
October 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#2916
On October 23 2011 07:19 LawnMower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:13 babylon wrote:
It's kind of like the difference between, say, Curious and DRG. DRG's flashy as hell with his playstyle, but I wouldn't say he's better than Curious, who's good at two match-ups (ZvZ and ZvP) instead of just one (ZvT, which Curious is not bad at as well). Overall I'd say Curious's style is far superior to DRG's, but it's kind of boring to watch since it's so standard and safe.

Funny how you say DRG has bad ZvZ when it's actually very good.


I don't think it's bad, but I do think it's still a bit of a mystery as to how good it actually is. Played a hell of a game against Losira in the gstl though. One of the top 5 zvz games I've ever seen
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Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
October 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#2917
On October 23 2011 07:16 TheAngryZergling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:05 Kirrimir wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:04 TheAngryZergling wrote:
lol @ "duking off". duking it out meets jerking off.


No it means fighting.


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:08 Asymmetric wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:04 TheAngryZergling wrote:
lol @ "duking off". duking it out meets jerking off.


What?

It mean engaging in a duel. i.e. fighting.


no, "duking it out" means fighting.

google search for "duking off" yields About 245 results none of the top of which are related to fighting. If it has less than 1000 hits on google it cannot b

google search results for "duking it out" yields About 17,400,000 results.


Try googling "context".
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#2918
Im sick of this fucking quiz, just tell me when the maych starts god damnit.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 22 2011 22:21 GMT
#2919
On October 23 2011 07:19 NagAfightinG wrote:
LOL @ TRIVIA ABOUT LOST TEMPLE HAS SHORTEST RUSH DISTANCE HAHAHAHA

The last map was shattered temple, so....
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
October 22 2011 22:21 GMT
#2920
On October 23 2011 07:18 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 07:11 Grumbels wrote:
On October 23 2011 07:08 Mouzone wrote:
So theorycrafting, what could Sen actually have done that game to have a chance to win?

What Artosis said: he had to make an unscoutable assumption (i.e. guess) and use this 'knowledge' to decide on when to start making units.


Yeah, I guess meeting MVP's army mid map before he has stationed his tanks etc. would be optimal. It would require a quite early army though I suppose.


Fun Fact : Actually he did spot the army. It leaves him less than 22 seconds to produce enough Roaches to break a contain consisting of 3 siege tanks (which 2 of them are virtually invincible) and 15 marines, given he didn't make some drones with his larvae just before.
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