On October 16 2011 08:11 Fiel wrote: Glad to see that MKP has a lot of builds in his arsenal.
BTW, MKP's build is not cheese. Haypro made a terrible decision to acquire baneling tech when MKP killed an evo chamber with 10+ hellions. Roaches would have held this off no problemo.
it's a cheese, if he had mutas after a good wall off mkp would be dead. dont be a fucking idiot.
MKP's pressure forced larva to be used on zerglings, thats why he never got a decent number of mutas. and when the lings died the drones were next.
Well, not cheese but this was indeed an all inish build. Had haypros wall held a few seconds more MKP would have been dead.
On October 16 2011 08:14 mikkeld wrote: What is the tie break method for MLG? if the win/loss is tied is it map wins or head-to-head that first determines who goes on?
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote: So uh I heard roaches are cool.
that many hellions actually kill roaches.
What? Hope you are trolling.
are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.
He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.
As long as the roach and hellion numbers get big enough, the hellions will win in terms of resource cost. Bringing this to an extreme example, about 80 hellions will kill an equal cost amount of roaches and still have 60~ left over. 20 hellions can take on 8~10 roaches if mkp gets some good lines in.
LOL, no they won't. Unless the Zerg player puts all of his roaches in a line in the smallest choke imaginable, there is NO way hellions will beat roaches at equal cost.
theyre cost effective against stalkers in critical mass, idk what would change against roaches
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote: So uh I heard roaches are cool.
that many hellions actually kill roaches.
What? Hope you are trolling.
are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.
He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.
Because there was plenty of time to get speed roaches in that number during that game.
Thanks.
He had hellions firing at the evo chamber for at least a minute. Instead of dropping a roach warren he drops a baneling nest and then a spire instead of a roach warren.
EDIT: The speed part of that you might be right about.
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote: So uh I heard roaches are cool.
that many hellions actually kill roaches.
What? Hope you are trolling.
are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.
He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.
As long as the roach and hellion numbers get big enough, the hellions will win in terms of resource cost. Bringing this to an extreme example, about 80 hellions will kill an equal cost amount of roaches and still have 60~ left over. 20 hellions can take on 8~10 roaches if mkp gets some good lines in.
Heard of splitting roaches? You do it in marine vs hellion battles there is no reason to not do it in mass hellion vs roach battles, and if you fight 80 hellions vs 60 roaches, you are not gonna end up with 60 hellions, this is stupid why am I even acknowledging an obvious troll.
On October 16 2011 08:14 mikkeld wrote: What is the tie break method for MLG? if the win/loss is tied is it map wins or head-to-head that first determines who goes on?
Head to Head. MKP vs IdrA will be for First Place.
On October 16 2011 08:11 Fiel wrote: Glad to see that MKP has a lot of builds in his arsenal.
BTW, MKP's build is not cheese. Haypro made a terrible decision to acquire baneling tech when MKP killed an evo chamber with 10+ hellions. Roaches would have held this off no problemo.
it's a cheese, if he had mutas after a good wall off mkp would be dead. dont be a fucking idiot.
MKP's pressure forced larva to be used on zerglings, thats why he never got a decent number of mutas. and when the lings died the drones were next.
It was a cheese, jesus, can you not see it? Haypro builds roaches? MKP dies. Haypro walls-off and goes for mutas? MKP dies. If scouted, the strategy wouldn't work and MKP would've lost; Therefore the definition of cheese. No one is saying he cheated, he just used a cheese.
I hope MKP can take this light hearted-less stressed attitude back with him to Code S. I hear he is a beast on ladder and in practice but nerves hold him back. hopefully this MLG will be good for that
On October 16 2011 08:12 Angelbelow wrote: How come i cant find information on jinro in the open bracket?
Same question.. What happened?
he is in the championship bracket, same as everyone that lost in the last round of the open bracket
No, Jinro is in round 9 of the loser bracket which isn't filled in on liquipedia. He has to win one more time to get into the championship bracket (although round 9 might just be for seeding).