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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6401
On October 16 2011 08:14 tsango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:12 GreyKnight wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:11 Fiel wrote:
Glad to see that MKP has a lot of builds in his arsenal.

BTW, MKP's build is not cheese. Haypro made a terrible decision to acquire baneling tech when MKP killed an evo chamber with 10+ hellions. Roaches would have held this off no problemo.


it's a cheese, if he had mutas after a good wall off mkp would be dead. dont be a fucking idiot.


MKP's pressure forced larva to be used on zerglings, thats why he never got a decent number of mutas. and when the lings died the drones were next.


Well, not cheese but this was indeed an all inish build. Had haypros wall held a few seconds more MKP would have been dead.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6402
On October 16 2011 08:14 mikkeld wrote:
What is the tie break method for MLG? if the win/loss is tied is it map wins or head-to-head that first determines who goes on?

Head to head according to earlier posts.
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6403
On October 16 2011 08:13 mcc wrote:
Hmm, my slight dislike for Idra is overshadowed by my immediate big dislike for MKP, so go Idra


So you dislike someone because his oponent failed to defend properly? thats a great atitude...
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6404
On October 16 2011 08:14 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:12 Angelbelow wrote:
How come i cant find information on jinro in the open bracket?

Same question.. What happened?


he is in the championship bracket, same as everyone that lost in the last round of the open bracket
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6405
On October 16 2011 08:13 Hams wrote:
Idra will avenge Banjo and make MKP cry

Not a chance in hell... MKP is going to wipe the floor with Idra and take 1st in the group. EZ PZ
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6406
On October 16 2011 08:15 Scila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:14 Soulish wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:11 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:10 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:09 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote:
So uh I heard roaches are cool.

that many hellions actually kill roaches.


What? Hope you are trolling.

are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.


He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.


As long as the roach and hellion numbers get big enough, the hellions will win in terms of resource cost. Bringing this to an extreme example, about 80 hellions will kill an equal cost amount of roaches and still have 60~ left over. 20 hellions can take on 8~10 roaches if mkp gets some good lines in.


LOL, no they won't. Unless the Zerg player puts all of his roaches in a line in the smallest choke imaginable, there is NO way hellions will beat roaches at equal cost.


theyre cost effective against stalkers in critical mass, idk what would change against roaches
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6407
On October 16 2011 08:15 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:11 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:10 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:09 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote:
So uh I heard roaches are cool.

that many hellions actually kill roaches.


What? Hope you are trolling.

are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.


He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.


Because there was plenty of time to get speed roaches in that number during that game.

Thanks.


He managed to get 8 mutas at about the point where hellions finally broke through. he had easily enough time to get 10 roaches.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Manslayer
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile150 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6408
On October 16 2011 08:14 Angra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:10 Badfatpanda wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:09 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote:
So uh I heard roaches are cool.

that many hellions actually kill roaches.


What? Hope you are trolling.


no he's not, roaches actually die to hellions en masse


Anything dies to anything en masse.. >>


just like mutas die to hellions en masse
No quote D:
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 23:17:43
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6409
On October 16 2011 08:15 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:11 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:10 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:09 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote:
So uh I heard roaches are cool.

that many hellions actually kill roaches.


What? Hope you are trolling.

are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.


He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.


Because there was plenty of time to get speed roaches in that number during that game.

Thanks.


He had hellions firing at the evo chamber for at least a minute. Instead of dropping a roach warren he drops a baneling nest and then a spire instead of a roach warren.

EDIT: The speed part of that you might be right about.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6410
sase was not good vs zerg on his stream when i watched and not good now i guess.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
October 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#6411
On October 16 2011 08:14 Soulish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:11 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:10 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:09 hysterial wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Serpico wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:08 Scufo wrote:
So uh I heard roaches are cool.

that many hellions actually kill roaches.


What? Hope you are trolling.

are you trolling? It depends on how many roaches he'd be able to make. but that many hellions does kill roaches.


He make 8-10 speed roaches and you are telling me 20 hellions can take that on creep? Please troll more kthx.


As long as the roach and hellion numbers get big enough, the hellions will win in terms of resource cost. Bringing this to an extreme example, about 80 hellions will kill an equal cost amount of roaches and still have 60~ left over. 20 hellions can take on 8~10 roaches if mkp gets some good lines in.


Heard of splitting roaches? You do it in marine vs hellion battles there is no reason to not do it in mass hellion vs roach battles, and if you fight 80 hellions vs 60 roaches, you are not gonna end up with 60 hellions, this is stupid why am I even acknowledging an obvious troll.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6412
On October 16 2011 08:14 mikkeld wrote:
What is the tie break method for MLG? if the win/loss is tied is it map wins or head-to-head that first determines who goes on?


Head to Head. MKP vs IdrA will be for First Place.
I had a good night of sleep.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6413
On October 16 2011 08:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:13 Hams wrote:
Idra will avenge Banjo and make MKP cry

Not a chance in hell... MKP is going to wipe the floor with Idra and take 1st in the group. EZ PZ
MKP? 1st?

Bwahahahahaha.
#freeshauni
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6414
On October 16 2011 08:14 tsango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:12 GreyKnight wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:11 Fiel wrote:
Glad to see that MKP has a lot of builds in his arsenal.

BTW, MKP's build is not cheese. Haypro made a terrible decision to acquire baneling tech when MKP killed an evo chamber with 10+ hellions. Roaches would have held this off no problemo.


it's a cheese, if he had mutas after a good wall off mkp would be dead. dont be a fucking idiot.


MKP's pressure forced larva to be used on zerglings, thats why he never got a decent number of mutas. and when the lings died the drones were next.

It was a cheese, jesus, can you not see it? Haypro builds roaches? MKP dies. Haypro walls-off and goes for mutas? MKP dies. If scouted, the strategy wouldn't work and MKP would've lost; Therefore the definition of cheese. No one is saying he cheated, he just used a cheese.


On October 16 2011 08:14 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:08 Talin wrote:
I'm going to enjoy MKP getting destroyed so much...

lol thats implying there is some one good enough to 'destroy' MKP....

Don't hold your breathe....


You're giving him too much credit. MKP's good but far from being a top korean terran for quite some time. Bomber will destroy him ezpz.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6415
On October 16 2011 08:12 Angelbelow wrote:
How come i cant find information on jinro in the open bracket?


He qualified for championship bracket by reaching the last round of the open winner bracket. He should be in the same round as Vibe here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando/ChampionshipBracket
He was actually already shown there previously but for some reason edited out again.
http://www.twitter.com/Paragleiber
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6416
urgh i'm out of rum
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6417
I hope MKP can take this light hearted-less stressed attitude back with him to Code S. I hear he is a beast on ladder and in practice but nerves hold him back. hopefully this MLG will be good for that
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6418
StC vs HongUn on Black Stream for anyone interested.
Manslayer
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 23:18:02
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6419
On October 16 2011 08:17 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:13 Hams wrote:
Idra will avenge Banjo and make MKP cry

Not a chance in hell... MKP is going to wipe the floor with Idra and take 1st in the group. EZ PZ
MKP? 1st?

Bwahahahahaha.

It's not GSL so..
No quote D:
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#6420
On October 16 2011 08:16 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 08:14 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
On October 16 2011 08:12 Angelbelow wrote:
How come i cant find information on jinro in the open bracket?

Same question.. What happened?


he is in the championship bracket, same as everyone that lost in the last round of the open bracket


No, Jinro is in round 9 of the loser bracket which isn't filled in on liquipedia. He has to win one more time to get into the championship bracket (although round 9 might just be for seeding).
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