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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

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ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
October 10 2011 15:57 GMT
#18681
On October 11 2011 00:37 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:34 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Can I still watch the finals somewhere? Unfortunatly, I missed them

http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague/videos


Thank you.
beer
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
October 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#18682
On October 11 2011 00:49 Vocal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:38 Vul wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:25 TaKemE wrote:
His for sure Code S level and he did beat all these in IPL 3/Qualifiers: Anypro, MarineKing, Revival, Puzzle, MMA, Huk, Boxer, Violet, Inori, TheStC, Lucky

Thats 4 Code S and 3 Code A + more Koreans.


I don't think we can say code S level yet, but he's going to MLG Orlando in the open bracket, so he should hit some code S level players in a LAN setting. MarineKing, Polt and aLive are all in the open bracket. Stephano lost to aLive in the group stage at IPL3 by the way.


I won't even bother starting the whole "online doesn't really compare to LAN which is why players like Mvp/Nestea don't bother with it much" argument, but yeah, a LAN setting is actually important especially when you're at the top of the world. And I love how Inori is suddenly getting a lot of hype alongside his teammate Lucky - this being their first LAN tournament and the results they showed? Geez.


Yeah, but I feel lucky and inori's hype is similar to Ace and Squirtle's from last year.. pretty much undeserved. As for Stephano, he's skillful enough to win matches from high caliber players, we'll see how good he is at being consistent now that his play style will be scrutinized and he suddenly became a bigger target.
GreyMasta
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada197 Posts
October 10 2011 16:05 GMT
#18683
It's funny, we can really see a pattern that says that the "foreign world" isn't quite one unique entity.
Last night (US East coast time) there was tons of blind hate and (a few) random worshipping toward Stephano. I come back to the thread and I find it to have softened up a lot, surprisingly matching Europe's wake up.

In short:
NA still quite doesnt know who is this Stephano dude and has hard time to identify itself with such a weird phenomenon.
EU has figured it out for quite a while and is pretty proud to have birthed another international competitive beast.

Meanwhile, KR is like "get those replays we gotta have to retro-engineer this shiznit AFAP. This kid shall not pass!!".
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
October 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#18684
On October 11 2011 00:49 Vocal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:38 Vul wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:25 TaKemE wrote:
His for sure Code S level and he did beat all these in IPL 3/Qualifiers: Anypro, MarineKing, Revival, Puzzle, MMA, Huk, Boxer, Violet, Inori, TheStC, Lucky

Thats 4 Code S and 3 Code A + more Koreans.


I don't think we can say code S level yet, but he's going to MLG Orlando in the open bracket, so he should hit some code S level players in a LAN setting. MarineKing, Polt and aLive are all in the open bracket. Stephano lost to aLive in the group stage at IPL3 by the way.


I won't even bother starting the whole "online doesn't really compare to LAN which is why players like Mvp/Nestea don't bother with it much" argument, but yeah, a LAN setting is actually important especially when you're at the top of the world. And I love how Inori is suddenly getting a lot of hype alongside his teammate Lucky - this being their first LAN tournament and the results they showed? Geez.

Lucky did ok in Code A, losing in the third round to Sage, and went 7-2 against the Slayers' terrans at IPL, who were known for their strong TvZ-style for a while. I wouldn't even agree that his ZvZ sucks, at least he has beaten Violet, Ret, Machine and Haypro before reaching the final, only dropping a single game to Violet.

Let's see what he can do against an all terran group in the Up-and-Down Matches!

Shohatto
Profile Joined October 2011
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 16:09:03
October 10 2011 16:08 GMT
#18685
Great games at IPL for day 4. Stephano cleaned up big time. Was also nice to see MMA and Idra playing. I know Thorzain is good but Idra owned him hardcore in their Ro16 game. MMA rocked Puma in the quarters. Amazing micro.

Was nice seeing some of these guys playing in person. Thanks to IGN for putting up the event and for the free t-shirt
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 10 2011 16:11 GMT
#18686
Will they release replays!?
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 16:13:12
October 10 2011 16:12 GMT
#18687
On October 11 2011 01:04 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:49 Vocal wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:38 Vul wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:25 TaKemE wrote:
His for sure Code S level and he did beat all these in IPL 3/Qualifiers: Anypro, MarineKing, Revival, Puzzle, MMA, Huk, Boxer, Violet, Inori, TheStC, Lucky

Thats 4 Code S and 3 Code A + more Koreans.


I don't think we can say code S level yet, but he's going to MLG Orlando in the open bracket, so he should hit some code S level players in a LAN setting. MarineKing, Polt and aLive are all in the open bracket. Stephano lost to aLive in the group stage at IPL3 by the way.


I won't even bother starting the whole "online doesn't really compare to LAN which is why players like Mvp/Nestea don't bother with it much" argument, but yeah, a LAN setting is actually important especially when you're at the top of the world. And I love how Inori is suddenly getting a lot of hype alongside his teammate Lucky - this being their first LAN tournament and the results they showed? Geez.


Yeah, but I feel lucky and inori's hype is similar to Ace and Squirtle's from last year.. pretty much undeserved. As for Stephano, he's skillful enough to win matches from high caliber players, we'll see how good he is at being consistent now that his play style will be scrutinized and he suddenly became a bigger target.



Undeserved?

Lucky beat Boxer-Ryung-MMA (and Ret).

That's a crazy amount of ZvT to win, considering who those players are. We don't even know what would have happened had Stephano had to go through players like that (whom I will say MMA/Ryung has better TvZ then TheStC, and maybe even Boxer. ).
duckTemplar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States206 Posts
October 10 2011 16:14 GMT
#18688
Thanks IPL, Playhem and Paradox Gaming for the Free T-Shirts.
The first word Kerrigan said to Raynor was "...You Pig!", to Raynor's response "What? ... oh you're a psychic"
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 10 2011 16:18 GMT
#18689
Good job Stephano.

Kind of sad that Lucky played pretty horribly.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 10 2011 16:19 GMT
#18690
Yeah, bar the finals Lucky played super well. He beat MMA and Ryung, the 2nd and (what I would say) 4th best TvZer s in the world.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
October 10 2011 16:20 GMT
#18691
The best player won the event. Good luck in Blizzard Cup Stephano!
Purdy8
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom181 Posts
October 10 2011 16:20 GMT
#18692
Any VODs of the hilarious interview panel?
Shohatto
Profile Joined October 2011
10 Posts
October 10 2011 16:21 GMT
#18693
GO PINK POWER RANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 10 2011 16:22 GMT
#18694
On October 11 2011 00:56 Noxblood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 00:45 Vocal wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:28 Noxblood wrote:
On October 11 2011 00:14 Beren wrote:
On October 10 2011 23:53 Noxblood wrote:
On October 10 2011 23:49 Fruitme wrote:
Top 3 zerg:

1. Nestea
2. Stephano
3. DRG

love stephano but don't agree.
1. Nestea
2. Losira
3. DRG
4. Stephano


I agree. Stephano a very close 3rd. He just needs a little more results to move up. Even though winning IPL3 may eclipse all of DRG's results.

That is true. but fell DRG still is a little better. but it is hard to say. MLG Orlando will show us a good indicator. if Stephano does well i would change it up to

3.Stephano
4.DRG


Dimaga, the only foreigner to take a game off Nestea and the first Zerg to do so, lost in the history books. No mention of Coca either, but that's okay 'cause he wasn't even in IPL3 and we don't care about people who weren't in this tournament, I'm guessing. Didn't Stephano get owned by... I think his name was Ret? Oh, right, nevermind - Lucky owned him. But hey, that's ZvZ for you, folks.


Dimaga is just too unstable. he plays like a god and takes nestea down and just goes away. So really hard to say where he is on the list. Coca yes he is a contender for the top 4 place but i think that Stephanos 1 place victory was more impressive than cocas 2 place MLG run. if you count the qualifier he had to go through. and Ret at his best is one of the best. But he is also very unstable. plays perfect one game and totally messes up the next game.
But this kind of things are so subjective. And so hard. I think we can all agree on 1.Nestea and 2.losira. after that it becomes a lot harder.
But i would say

1. Nestea
2. Losira
3. DRG
4. Stephano(very close 3)
5. Coca
6. Idra
After that it i think it becomes just to close to call


In that sense, who's to say Stephano won't die out in a few months? Maybe MC-style, 2 time GSL champion losing to a no-name Protoss' first LAN event? Though, in this context, Stephano would indeed be quite high on that list. Still - Losira ain't so hot recently. Coca's makin' better waves in terms of progress, though.
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
October 10 2011 16:30 GMT
#18695
I fully expect Stephano to be crushed if and when he goes to a tournament and faces actual top tier koreans. The finals would of been much better if it were a tvz with MMA and a better indication of how good Stephano actually is.
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 10 2011 16:30 GMT
#18696
On October 11 2011 01:05 GreyMasta wrote:
It's funny, we can really see a pattern that says that the "foreign world" isn't quite one unique entity.
Last night (US East coast time) there was tons of blind hate and (a few) random worshipping toward Stephano. I come back to the thread and I find it to have softened up a lot, surprisingly matching Europe's wake up.

In short:
NA still quite doesnt know who is this Stephano dude and has hard time to identify itself with such a weird phenomenon.
EU has figured it out for quite a while and is pretty proud to have birthed another international competitive beast.

Meanwhile, KR is like "get those replays we gotta have to retro-engineer this shiznit AFAP. This kid shall not pass!!".


I remember a lot of the posts saying shit like "Stephano > Mvp" and "1. Stephano 2. Nestea" were coming from European countries. That probably sparked the reaction from NA. Not everyone were downplaying Stephano, they were downplaying the overhype created by flavor-of-the-month obsessions. Remember when Huk won Dreamhack? Yeah, exactly.

And no, I doubt the Koreans are worried about Stephano. They probably see him as another foreigner who comes to Korea expecting to make it big yet get eliminated in the first round of Code A. Maybe he'll prove them wrong, who knows?
Fruity
Profile Joined October 2011
Belgium38 Posts
October 10 2011 16:30 GMT
#18697
On October 11 2011 01:11 -_- wrote:
Will they release replays!?


You can watch the tournament here.

http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague/videos
Von
Profile Joined May 2009
United States363 Posts
October 10 2011 16:35 GMT
#18698
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...

Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.

You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.

As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?

He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.

And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.

I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.

He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.

If its not fun I dont want it.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
October 10 2011 16:35 GMT
#18699
foreigners and koreans have different rankings yo

you cant compare stephano to them
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
October 10 2011 16:38 GMT
#18700
On October 11 2011 01:35 Von wrote:
I watched Stephano play live over the past 4 days from 4 rows back. Also hung out during the impromptu panel they did onstage before the Ro4 with Incontrol, MC, Select and this kid ...

Stephano has the "It" factor. There is some switch in his brain that switches on razor sharp split second decision making and an almost supernatural calm and focus when he is playing.

You can see it on the screen during the game. And you can see it when you look at him playing in the booth.

As the pressure went up? And the matches were more high stakes?

He just dialed it in harder. The decisions were more split second, more on point, more devastating.

And he was totally unshakable by the situation, the crowd, the lights, the hype ... nothing shook that focus when it counted.

I am telling you this kid is the real deal man.

He's got the genetic skills to go through Code S like a hot knife thru buttah.


I'm glad we got to hear this from an expert!
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