[GSL] Oct Code S RO32 Day 3 - Page 3

On September 27 2011 06:11 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Lots of people sleeping on the Protoss here...

HongUn is so underrated. He's not flashy or particularly fun to watch, but he's capable of playing a lot of different styles, and all-ins a lot, without being afraid to play a macro game when he wants to. That makes him REALLY unpredictable, and he knows how to use that to his advantage. Even when his hand was injured and his mechanics were wrecked and he couldn't blink micro, he was still winning games on gamesense and decision making. His consistency in the GSL is remarkable, and he has a lot of wins over people that nobody thought he had a shot against.

Genius is cocky as hell and that makes him play really risky, but he's also one of the most forward-thinking Protoss in the world. If you watch his play, he's always a couple steps ahead in the metagame. If Genius is doing something, there's a good chance that in 2 months lots of Toss will be doing it. His weakness is that a lot of the time his opponent will just decide to go kill him while he's macroing up some sick lategame-oriented strat, and he'll just die to an all-in. But with the new patch, everything is in flux, and I think that could play to Genius' advantage, because if anyone can figure out a way to take advantage of the patch before other people do, its him.

I predict at least one of these Toss will make it to Ro16.

On September 27 2011 06:35 QTIP. wrote:


I agree with your Hongun part, but I disagree with your analysis of Genius.

Genius is a remarkably safe and standard player. He will occasionally throw in an all-in, but it is almost never expected. He has been playing macro-style since GSL 1/2 (when everyone was 4-gating) and I expect him to continue that style. I rarely see him take risks as a result of his very entertaining arrogance. It's funny that you mention him doing innovative builds when Artosis just recently detailed in the GSTL how watching Genius is like watching "Good Protoss play, just 2 months ago." I have to agree with Artosis here, Genius plays so safe, and so standard that often times he is actually a little behind the metagame. I don't always agree with Artosis, but I do think he is accurate here.

Genius does deserve credit for the Zealot - Drop Defense in PvT though. That was a nice addition to Protoss strategy.

On September 27 2011 06:35 Micket wrote:
I'm predicting both Protosses to go to the up and down matches, unless they both do sneaky voidray all ins. Oh wait, its hongun and genius, who am I kidding, Protoss gonna take at least a game with some dumb all in that works (remember Hongun 'destroying' Ganzi in GSTL?).

On September 27 2011 06:35 Micket wrote:
I'm predicting both Protosses to go to the up and down matches, unless they both do sneaky voidray all ins. Oh wait, its hongun and genius, who am I kidding, Protoss gonna take at least a game with some dumb all in that works (remember Hongun 'destroying' Ganzi in GSTL?).



Also, how the hell is Taeja no 1 on ELO?

On September 27 2011 06:45 Qaatar wrote:


The kid is sick good. Also, his 80.56% win rate this month with 36 games played, and his 73.85% win rate since August with 65 games played. The caliber of opponents he's beaten isn't shabby either.

Edit: If it wasn't for his embarrassing 0-3 loss to Ganzi's weird builds in the Code A semis, I'm sure he would have been #1 a lot sooner.

On September 27 2011 06:35 Micket wrote:
I'm predicting both Protosses to go to the up and down matches, unless they both do sneaky voidray all ins. Oh wait, its hongun and genius, who am I kidding, Protoss gonna take at least a game with some dumb all in that works (remember Hongun 'destroying' Ganzi in GSTL?).


Didn't Genius get credit for innovating zealot archon PvT? I always thought Genius was the PvT macro style innovator whilst MC was the PvZ macro style innovator as well as the 2 base timing attack master. I would say its a little unfair to call Genius behind on the metagame.

Also, how the hell is Taeja no 1 on ELO?

On September 27 2011 06:58 nokz88 wrote:


+1 thing: I think he's the only player ever to achieve 2 all-kills in the GSTL.

On September 27 2011 06:35 Micket wrote:
Also, how the hell is Taeja no 1 on ELO?

On September 27 2011 05:45 MrCon wrote:
Good writeup Indrium. I agree with pretty much everything, but when you talk about for instance Losira beating Jjakji, I'd give him like 55% to win. So both opening matchs, of both groups, are very open, and contrarily of what we can see in most other groups, the possible scenarii are very, very different according to who will win each match.
What I'm trying to say is usually in a group you can easily find the 2 better players, who'll advance no matter what will happen in the other matches. Here things could be a lot different depending of who win what (and by that I'm talking about non involved players in that particular match).


...I tried to explain 2 times and both times I think I wasn't not clear >< For instance if Jjakji wins Leenock, Happy has a lot less chances to qualify than if Leenock wins jjakji.

On September 27 2011 05:49 MrCon wrote:


Hey, every season we all say that, and Genius and Hongun are the rare players who are here from the beginning of GSL (only 7 players can say so). (credits to ESFI World for this picture and their amazing GSL writeups)
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 27 2011 05:02 MrCon wrote:
I have a very hard time predicting tomorrow's groups.
In group E I have no idea who will win in both opening games. July could beat hongun, Hongun could beat July. Ganzi could beat Losira and vice versa. The winner of second match should go 2-0, but that's not even sure if it's Ganzi vs July.
Really I have no clue, well, that's exciting.

Group F Happy rolled over Genius in GSTL, so let's assume he'll win.
But Jjakji is the zerg brutalizer while Losira is Losicat. If Jjakji wins Losira I can see Losira going to the up and downs again if Happy loses. But if Genius and Losira loses, Genius wil lgo to the up and downs.
It's too hard to predict too, usually I have a good idea of how things will play out (even when I'm wrong), but this time I have no clue for both groups, except that there is a good chance to see Genius in up and downs.

Writing this, I realized this is one of the day I'm anticipating the most for a long time.