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On September 23 2011 23:17 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:12 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
it appears he would've lost his main even if he didnt let the templars pass into his main...
can someone clear up how the pylon got there? I just had a look. Around when he started the attack on the gold, he sent a probe to place a pylon on the low ground, then sent it straight into the main to place a pylon in the main. That finished around the same time as the DTs started heading towards the main Nestea seems too have sent some Zerglings, but too late
Aye.
The second warp in started before Pylon#2 finished. That pylon granted the vision that a single probe could not have due to short life spam altho the DTs could have done that anyway.
BrofessorT sends his lings to get the low ground pylon to prevent more warp ins, which minimized the damage best he could. The second round of DTs actually didn't really matter. I guess he killed everything quicker but the damage was done by not having a spore in his main
Always amazing what 3 DTs can do.
*high fives PainUser*
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its funny because toss think they are underpowered
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So sad I didn't get to watch this live ; ; What an epic series.
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On September 23 2011 23:26 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:19 ladyumbra wrote:On September 23 2011 23:08 sinkan wrote:
I have never seen this, so is it serious?
do they play their best?
It's the playoffs, there's money and major pride on the line so yes. Also IM won the first team league and took 2nd in the second one so there was certainly pressure on them to make it top two again. Although everyone played a little wonky during the regular season playoffs are pretty serious, everyone definitely did their best , hell IMmvp did the 111 which he hates to try and secure a win. It's not really that serious though. The money on the line is pretty trivial compared to Code S, so a lot of the top players probably don't really practice all that much for GSTL specifically. It makes sense too, since the usual dominant players don't really perform that well in GSTL.
Considering that most Korean teams are having a hard time getting by money wise and the low amount of high profile sc2 tournaments in Korea I'm guessing teams are doing their best.
Not to mention it's a great opportunity to show your team off to sponsors and potential sponsors.
I can't imagine any reason not to take the GSTL really seriously
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On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered
Mistakes shouldn't be a factor in balance.
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On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered
Yeah after watching toss stomp 1/1/1 and then beat nestea, and see the protoss in code A have great results, i hope the whine stops.
Nobody ever waited for the game to develop but just kept crying imbalanced all the time.
Plus i just got stomped by a toss in a ladder game so im really irritated lol..
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wtf is going on i have to see vods to believe
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no way! I missed the good half :'(
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WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?
I went to bed after IM was up 3-0 because I figured "DRG is good but I don't think he can all kill IM this is pretty much over" can't believe I missed the rest. 
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On September 23 2011 23:47 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered Yeah after watching toss stomp 1/1/1 and then beat nestea, and see the protoss in code A have great results, i hope the whine stops. Nobody ever waited for the game to develop but just kept crying imbalanced all the time. Plus i just got stomped by a toss in a ladder game so im really irritated lol..
Yeah...watch the game develop. An unknown Toss beats the two best players in the world in rather unorthodox fashion, holding off one all-in and exploiting a major mistake in the second game.
Clearly, toss seems to catch up to terra and zerg.
Watch the game develop. If Korean toss repeat what tails, JYP, Sage and twilight managed today, then complaints about imbalanced at the highest stages of the game are irrelevant.
But still, korean toss were struggling for months, not just one day
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I never thought PvT was imbalanced, but the PvZ against a good zerg is almost impossible.
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Wow I did not expect MVP to pull out a win.
How did Tails win against IMMVP and Nestea?
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On September 23 2011 23:46 Badboyrune wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:26 hmunkey wrote:On September 23 2011 23:19 ladyumbra wrote:On September 23 2011 23:08 sinkan wrote:
I have never seen this, so is it serious?
do they play their best?
It's the playoffs, there's money and major pride on the line so yes. Also IM won the first team league and took 2nd in the second one so there was certainly pressure on them to make it top two again. Although everyone played a little wonky during the regular season playoffs are pretty serious, everyone definitely did their best , hell IMmvp did the 111 which he hates to try and secure a win. It's not really that serious though. The money on the line is pretty trivial compared to Code S, so a lot of the top players probably don't really practice all that much for GSTL specifically. It makes sense too, since the usual dominant players don't really perform that well in GSTL. Considering that most Korean teams are having a hard time getting by money wise and the low amount of high profile sc2 tournaments in Korea I'm guessing teams are doing their best. Not to mention it's a great opportunity to show your team off to sponsors and potential sponsors. I can't imagine any reason not to take the GSTL really seriously The big issue is that Code S is so much more important. We saw earlier this season the best players on teams weren't playing because they were saving strats and prepping for late season code S.
I also think Gom's exclusive tourney rights increase the value of GSTL. Its the only place none Code A/S players can really show off over there. This means that the best players are less interested in GSTL, and the up and comers are very interested. Its a weird dynamic.
On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered
This is a relevant and useful comment. Thank you for contributing.
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On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered
It's funny because zerg think they're underpowered...............SO THEY GET BUFFED!
It's funny because protoss think they're underpowered............SO THEY ALSO GOT BUFFED!
Are you normally this wrong or do you make an exception?
On September 23 2011 23:47 poorcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered Yeah after watching toss stomp 1/1/1 and then beat nestea, and see the protoss in code A have great results, i hope the whine stops. Nobody ever waited for the game to develop but just kept crying imbalanced all the time. Plus i just got stomped by a toss in a ladder game so im really irritated lol..
Oh Nestea and MVP lost 1 game to a protoss! PROTOSS IS NOT UNDERPOWERED AT ALL. The best players lost ONE game. ONE!!!!!!
Seriously, we need some sort of intelligence test or something on these forums
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On September 23 2011 23:47 branflakes14 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered Mistakes shouldn't be a factor in balance.
You have units that can end the game if someone doesn't have detection. We've seen the best players in the world get caught without detection and lose games. It happens, when under pressure, even the best players can make mistakes or be a few seconds too late. When you have units that are so powerful that they can punish such a small mistake so heavily, it's hard to say Protoss is UP.
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Tails sems like a sick motherfucker. Not many men can say that they beat both MVP and Nestea in a single day.
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On September 24 2011 00:18 Sandro wrote:
Wow I did not expect MVP to pull out a win.
How did Tails win against IMMVP and Nestea?
I'll put it in a spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +MVP: He started with a 2-stalker rush to put some pressure on, and expanded behind it. MVP was going for the marine/tank/banshee with cloak variant of the all-in, but Tails dropped a robo after, and was able to get out observers to catch the cloakshees. As soon as he saw he all-in, he started to pump out immortals and threw down more gates, to a total of 6, while he sent a few sentries and stalkers to stall the push. He held the first attack well, and started to pump out lotsa zealots and phoenix to counter the banshees (there were like 6 at that point) and when the next attack came, he rolled it for the win
Nestea: He got 3 DTs in Nestea's main, as well as being able to warp in a pylon in the main. 6 DTs took out the main hatch before it could mutate into a lair. Nestea went for a massive drop of roaches, and reinforced with roach/hydra for the second drop. Tails held, and started colossus production. Nestea went for a third drop, but Tails blinked right under the overlords and sniped a lot of them, then rolled over expansions for the win
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On September 24 2011 00:21 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 23:47 branflakes14 wrote:On September 23 2011 23:40 WarrickHunt wrote:
its funny because toss think they are underpowered Mistakes shouldn't be a factor in balance. You have units that can end the game if someone doesn't have detection. We've seen the best players in the world get caught without detection and lose games. It happens, when under pressure, even the best players can make mistakes or be a few seconds too late. When you have units that are so powerful that they can punish such a small mistake so heavily, it's hard to say Protoss is UP.
missing THREE DTs is a small mistake? Are you serious?
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Holy shit, MVP winning without DRG and a Ro4 that nobody would have expected, I need to watch the VODs
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