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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
September 24 2011 02:52 GMT
#3561
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1
hakha
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia87 Posts
September 24 2011 02:58 GMT
#3562
On September 24 2011 10:45 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 09:47 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 24 2011 09:36 Wuster wrote:
On September 24 2011 09:16 Skarmory wrote:
IM can't be bothered to think about correct strategies. If you immediately put up Nestea vs DRG, no offence DRG I love you, Nestea will slay DRG. At that point you have a 4v1. If Tails beats you 4 times in a row, you don't deserve to be in the league.


I thought at worst, you throw Losira at him first, since Losira is also great at ZvZ and if that fails you give Nestea a game to watch DRG before taking him apart.

I can understand sending MVP against him though, seeing as how he did 2-0 him in MLG and is coming off a GSL championship, and he did actually beat him today. But there was no excuse to sent YoungHwa out to die like that, they had to know that they had a plan for MVP/Nestea so forcing yourself to send them out back-to-back was just asking for it.

Although, I can see the overconfidence in IM thinking MVP / Nestea can't possibly lose to the same guy. And Tails was a hair's breadth away from having his DT gambit slammed shut (one spore in the main or a ramp block after already seeing the DTs at the gold and its over).

But still, why play around with taking DRG out?



there were not playing around, they lost plain and simple, PRevious gstls they played around, for instance when they faced Fxo where the only star player to play was mvp.

Look at who IM used and tell me if this is playing around.

-Happy = really good terran
-Losira = Top 3 zerg in the world
-Yongwa= probably best protoss in the world
-MVP= best terran in the world
-Nestea = supposedly best zerg in the world


yea it sure looks like IM was playing around!!!! lawl

Yonghwa is far from the best Protoss in the world.
Even without looking at results, I would rank Sage and JYP above Yonghwa. I'm reluctant to put HerO above him as well, but HerO is definitely more innovative. Even what we've seen recently from Oz has been very impressive
+ Show Spoiler +
You also can't rank him higher than TAiLS, he played like a monster

EDIT: I would also probably rank HuK above Yonghwa as well, even though both players are kind-of in the same spot as MC, where they haven't really evolved like the newer Protoss' have.


I agree in saying that youghwa is far from the best protoss in the world but he's still pretty damn good from what he's shown us. Taking out bomber in a macro game....is friggin sick dude. but yes, we havent seen enough of him so hopefully he gets into code A and shows us what he can actually bring to save protoss in the GSL.

Tails is ok...but the game with Nestea had a LOT of luck involved so yea. MVP game was good though

Also to comments about messing around with DRG. his worst matchup is vP and yonghwa is IM's best P anyway with solid gameplay from what we've seen in GSTL, so why not send him.

Samiz
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada165 Posts
September 24 2011 03:00 GMT
#3563
On September 24 2011 11:52 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1


Yes he did. But,
+ Show Spoiler +

also in a bo3 in the AoL
hummingbird23
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway359 Posts
September 24 2011 03:08 GMT
#3564
Haha, both teams to go out drinking IMO. Beer for MVP, hard hard liquor for IM. Tails gets toasted 5836937 times, Nestea and MVP are buying all the drinks that night.
xHerodotusx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
September 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#3565
goodness gracious; that was the best day of starcraft 2 yet.
ZerO - Seal - Life - Taeja - Parting - Squirtle
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 24 2011 03:38 GMT
#3566
On September 24 2011 11:52 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1

Yes, and people said that it was a fluke and MMA would never win in a Best of 3, 5, 7, etc.
and then in Arena of Legends MMA 2-0'd NesTea in a Best of 3.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 03:46:45
September 24 2011 03:41 GMT
#3567
On September 24 2011 12:38 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 11:52 zyzq wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1

Yes, and people said that it was a fluke and MMA would never win in a Best of 3, 5, 7, etc.
and then in Arena of Legends MMA 2-0'd NesTea in a Best of 3.


it's kind of silly to compare Arena of Legends to the GSL, just look at the prize pool. I wouldn't be surprised if MKP wins this tournament.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
September 24 2011 03:48 GMT
#3568
On September 24 2011 12:41 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 12:38 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:52 zyzq wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1

Yes, and people said that it was a fluke and MMA would never win in a Best of 3, 5, 7, etc.
and then in Arena of Legends MMA 2-0'd NesTea in a Best of 3.


it's kind of silly to compare Arena of Legends to the GSL, just look at the prize pool.


A competition is still a competition, though. Overall record as far as I can remember is 4-1 favoring MMA, so that means something.

Yeah, Tail might not be to beat Nestea/MVP again but we could not also say that he will never beat for sure.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
VRage
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium13 Posts
September 24 2011 03:54 GMT
#3569
Awesome game - just absolutely awesome - Huge huge Congrats - That showed me how great a GSTL can be - Amazing :-D
Second is the First Loser
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
September 24 2011 04:55 GMT
#3570
Just finished watching the VODs... Amazing series!
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 05:12:11
September 24 2011 05:11 GMT
#3571
Just finished watching the videos as well, this series is really awesome
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3-0 run then 0-3 run then 0-2 run , took down 2 3-times champions, u nerd baller Tails, im an insta fan
DRG ! TAILS!

I feel like MvP team and fOu team are both happy teams, it seems that their environment is really harmonious, everybody is so friendly with each other, if im a pro gamer there, id like to join one of those 2 teams
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 24 2011 05:12 GMT
#3572
On September 24 2011 11:52 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1


He also beat him in a Bo3 in AoL.
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
September 24 2011 05:15 GMT
#3573
its even more amazing that this is the playoff and each team dont have a 2nd chance after they lose!
Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
September 24 2011 09:37 GMT
#3574
On September 24 2011 08:25 alan25 wrote:
anyone got a link to the english commentary vods? free?


Google is your friend.
♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
September 24 2011 09:47 GMT
#3575
On September 24 2011 12:41 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 12:38 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:52 zyzq wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On September 24 2011 11:45 alan25 wrote:
to be honest, this was just a fluke tails would never win a bo3,5 or 7 against mvp/nestea

That's the same thing people said when MMA took out NesTea in GSL August.


MMA beat Nestea in a bo1

Yes, and people said that it was a fluke and MMA would never win in a Best of 3, 5, 7, etc.
and then in Arena of Legends MMA 2-0'd NesTea in a Best of 3.


it's kind of silly to compare Arena of Legends to the GSL, just look at the prize pool. I wouldn't be surprised if MKP comes second in this tournament.


Fixed that for you ^^

Seriously though, even though tails was very lucky in the nestea game, the fact is that he beat mvp with BAD micro. Usually protoss require excellent micro to hold off the 111, but he has all his zealots stuck at the back in both fights.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3807 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 10:52:17
September 24 2011 10:49 GMT
#3576
On September 24 2011 09:58 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 09:47 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 24 2011 09:36 Wuster wrote:
On September 24 2011 09:16 Skarmory wrote:
IM can't be bothered to think about correct strategies. If you immediately put up Nestea vs DRG, no offence DRG I love you, Nestea will slay DRG. At that point you have a 4v1. If Tails beats you 4 times in a row, you don't deserve to be in the league.


I thought at worst, you throw Losira at him first, since Losira is also great at ZvZ and if that fails you give Nestea a game to watch DRG before taking him apart.

I can understand sending MVP against him though, seeing as how he did 2-0 him in MLG and is coming off a GSL championship, and he did actually beat him today. But there was no excuse to sent YoungHwa out to die like that, they had to know that they had a plan for MVP/Nestea so forcing yourself to send them out back-to-back was just asking for it.

Although, I can see the overconfidence in IM thinking MVP / Nestea can't possibly lose to the same guy. And Tails was a hair's breadth away from having his DT gambit slammed shut (one spore in the main or a ramp block after already seeing the DTs at the gold and its over).

But still, why play around with taking DRG out?



there were not playing around, they lost plain and simple, PRevious gstls they played around, for instance when they faced Fxo where the only star player to play was mvp.

Look at who IM used and tell me if this is playing around.

-Happy = really good terran
-Losira = Top 3 zerg in the world
-Yongwa= probably best protoss in the world
-MVP= best terran in the world
-Nestea = supposedly best zerg in the world


yea it sure looks like IM was playing around!!!! lawl


Yongwa is the best toss and Clide the best terran in teh world. GJ artosis fan boy.



Yongwa is the best Protoss on IM period.

That said, I found it extremely suspicious they had sent out Yongwa, a protoss who is well known for being overly defensive, on dual sight, the map that is tied with Belshir beach in being extremely hard to play defensively.

The moment I saw they purposefully picked that map I assumed Yongwa wouldn't play his normal game and he didn't. This was the only dumb egregious decision IM had made as a team.


Can someone please post a screen shot of the look on the IM team as they lost? I had stayed up to watch them game but I didn't pay for the GSTL this season and I just want to immortalize the most heart breaking team defeat I ever saw. Noone has looked as crushed as IM just did in past matches or seasons.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
September 24 2011 14:01 GMT
#3577
Someone has a video of the end of the match, when Tails beats NesTea and gomtv is playing the Rocky song? Such emotion..
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
September 25 2011 21:59 GMT
#3578
What an insane match, imagine if DRG had some help
tjg92
Profile Joined March 2011
United States100 Posts
September 25 2011 22:22 GMT
#3579
I just finished watching the VODs, it took a long time to watch. Really great series. Tails did a good job. Also the DRG vs. Losira game was kickass.
The Maze Blog: http://mazeblog-tjg92.blogspot.com
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
September 26 2011 02:11 GMT
#3580
Wait wait wait I've been gone all weekend, and some random guy named Tails, WHOS A PROTOSS, beats the best terran and zerg in the world?
What happened in those games?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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