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On September 22 2011 03:25 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:06 -Archangel- wrote:
I am glad I didn't buy this season ticket. I wish I skipped on last season one.
I really hope we get 14T in ro16 and 7T in ro8 (I cannot see how can Virus defeat Nestea even with Terran being OP) so Blizzard can finally start doing some real nerfs on Terran like marines doing 5+1vs light and emp having a smaller area. Yes those damn 10 dollars with even TvT has such high quality games. It's like 7 euro for us ... that is code A plus code S, tons of games hours of watching why would you be a starcraft fan and not buy it. I'll put it in perspective here, a pack of sigarets here are 7 euro's something ... What would you get for 7 euro's that's more worth then a season of Gsl. On your nerf note there will always be one race feeling more powerful then the other the metagame shifts constantly look at broodwar we will see the same here. To me if some one says it's not worth buying a cheap ticket for the highest quality of games it gets my doubt up if you really are a starcraft fan even if it's one race feeling more powerful in it's current state.
No, they are not high quality. TvT last season only one game of the finals was good and fun to watch (I admit not watching all TvTs, but I could not bring myself to watch TvT with no players I care for at all). Out of other games, except for Huk, Nestea and July none were good in Code S. Code A had awesome JYP vs DRG and Leenock games. Others were crap. Up and down were one of the most stupid ever.
This season, trend continues. Only difference is foreigners got 2 (guess what) Terrans in ro16 code A. So more boring TvT to watch. Yay. As I said, I am glad I didn't buy this seasons ticket.
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Rotterdam posted this image on his twitter ^^
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On September 22 2011 06:53 -Archangel- wrote:
This season, trend continues. Only difference is foreigners got 2 (guess what) Terrans in ro16 code A. So more boring TvT to watch. Yay. As I said, I am glad I didn't buy this seasons ticket.
Don't pretend that Code A is filled with Terrans.
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On September 22 2011 05:53 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:59 Ansinjunger wrote:
The only non Terran worth complaining about not making it out of group stages is HuK, because of that all-in transition into even more all-in. Zenio played crappy against ASD (losing 8 spread out mutas in T's base). So Zenio deserves to lose because he made one mistake and lost 8 Mutas? How many Siege Tanks did ASD lose during his pushes? Isn't Zerg the race that's supposed to be able to replenish their units faster? It looks more and more like Terran is the swarm race that can keep throwing away their units until they overwhelm.
As I recall the majority of siege tanks ASD lost were from more suicidal mutas, and I was in no way suggesting Zenio made only 1 mistake, lol.
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everytime I vote for nestea he loses and everytime i vote against nestea he wins lol
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On September 22 2011 07:01 Bashion wrote:Rotterdam posted this image on his twitter ^^
mvp clones 31 others of himself
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Huk 
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On September 22 2011 07:20 Soulish wrote:
everytime I vote for nestea he loses and everytime i vote against nestea he wins lol
vote against him again. maybe together we can will him into another championship.
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On September 22 2011 07:05 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:53 sitromit wrote:On September 22 2011 04:59 Ansinjunger wrote:
The only non Terran worth complaining about not making it out of group stages is HuK, because of that all-in transition into even more all-in. Zenio played crappy against ASD (losing 8 spread out mutas in T's base). So Zenio deserves to lose because he made one mistake and lost 8 Mutas? How many Siege Tanks did ASD lose during his pushes? Isn't Zerg the race that's supposed to be able to replenish their units faster? It looks more and more like Terran is the swarm race that can keep throwing away their units until they overwhelm. As I recall the majority of siege tanks ASD lost were from more suicidal mutas, and I was in no way suggesting Zenio made only 1 mistake, lol.
Maybe you should watch the game again then...
At the 11 minute mark, Zenio does a Zergling runby into Asd's 3rd and kills a few SCVs. At this point Terran has killed 0 Drones, but has almost a 20 supply lead. So much for "if Terran doesn't harass Zerg to death, Zerg will get far ahead in macro..."
At 12 minutes, Zenio tries Muta harass on the 3rd this time but gets deflected by multiple Turrets and auto-repair.
At 15 minutes, Zenio goes into Asd's main with a big flock of Mutas, kills several SCVs and some Marines, but overextends himself and loses all but 4 of the Mutas in that group, this is the big mistake.
At 16-17 minutes, Asd pushes into Zenio's unsaturated 4th with a big army with Marines, Tanks, Hellions and Medivacs, and does a drop in his main at the same time. Zenio loses only 3 Drones in the main, and crushes the push entirely, and this time loses NO Mutas, of which he has remade a decent amount.
At 17.5 minutes, having lost his entire army half a minute ago, Asd pushes again with another huge force to the middle of the map. Meanwhile Zenio catches a Medivac full of Marines moving for a drop and kills it with his Mutas. Kills several SVCs once again in Asd's main, and this time flies out without losing a single Muta.
At almost 19 minutes, Zenio completely crushes Asd's push in the middle of the map, with a perfect flank, killing his entire army and not losing any Mutas. Kills several SCVs on Asd's newly established gold base, which has to lift.
Seconds later, Asd is moving out with an army of equal size. Zenio kills half of this new army with his remaining force, killing all but 1 of the Siege Tanks, this time losing a few Mutas for the first time since the first Muta attack into the main.
Seconds later Asd is 20 supply ahead, with an even bigger army than before... :/ It goes downhill for Zenio from there, he just can't keep up and starts to lose more and more units until he falls to far behind after every engagement.
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Strangely, if HuK is always beat by the gsl champion, then virus...LOL
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I just watched HuKs group.
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i feel the last game was a perfect example of protoss falling back on the "dumbest openings"
when idra and painuser discussed how protoss always falls back risky allins/openings like dt expand or voidray all ins, in a recent inside the game.
HuK im sure in everyone's opinion was the stronger player of the two, not sure why he decided to do a coin flipish opening.
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Zenio...you were looking so strong last GSL.
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Well the first group turned out how I wanted it to! :D
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On September 22 2011 07:04 MrSalamandra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:53 -Archangel- wrote:
This season, trend continues. Only difference is foreigners got 2 (guess what) Terrans in ro16 code A. So more boring TvT to watch. Yay. As I said, I am glad I didn't buy this seasons ticket. Don't pretend that Code A is filled with Terrans.
Don't worry, now there's a lot more space for new Terrans in Code A next season.
8 Protoss dropped to Code B.
If the trend continues, Code A will be stacked with Terrans in 1 or 2 seasons.
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On September 22 2011 08:11 lim1017 wrote:I just watched HuKs group. + Show Spoiler +
i feel the last game was a perfect example of protoss falling back on the "dumbest openings"
when idra and painuser discussed how protoss always falls back risky allins/openings like dt expand or voidray all ins, in a recent inside the game.
HuK im sure in everyone's opinion was the stronger player of the two, not sure why he decided to do a coin flipish opening.
Clearly because he felt it gave him the best chance to win.
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On September 22 2011 08:50 Chise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:04 MrSalamandra wrote:On September 22 2011 06:53 -Archangel- wrote:
This season, trend continues. Only difference is foreigners got 2 (guess what) Terrans in ro16 code A. So more boring TvT to watch. Yay. As I said, I am glad I didn't buy this seasons ticket. Don't pretend that Code A is filled with Terrans. Don't worry, now there's a lot more space for new Terrans in Code A next season. 8 Protoss dropped to Code B. If the trend continues, Code A will be stacked with Terrans in 1 or 2 seasons.
That trend was really displayed with this season, when 2 of 12 preliminaries were won by Terrans.
The season before that 8 of 13 preliminaries were won by Terrans. The season before that 5 of 16 were won by Terrans. The season before that 3 of 16 were won by Terrans. The season before that 6 of 12 were won by Terrans. There isn't a trend at all. This is in total 24/69, which is 34.8%. Which I would call pretty bloody close to a third.
A disproportionately high number of those Terrans that qualified ended up going up to Code S, of course, but that's a separate point. There has never been a problem with the number of Terrans qualifying for Code A.
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On September 22 2011 08:11 lim1017 wrote:I just watched HuKs group. + Show Spoiler +
HuK im sure in everyone's opinion was the stronger player of the two, not sure why he decided to do a coin flipish opening.
Not in my opinion ~_~
Super glad to see NesTea advance and beat out MMA this time around, hopefully his TvZ has improved enough to make him invincible
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can't wait til code-s is all terrans and nestea & drg -.-
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On September 22 2011 09:03 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 08:11 lim1017 wrote:I just watched HuKs group. + Show Spoiler +
i feel the last game was a perfect example of protoss falling back on the "dumbest openings"
when idra and painuser discussed how protoss always falls back risky allins/openings like dt expand or voidray all ins, in a recent inside the game.
HuK im sure in everyone's opinion was the stronger player of the two, not sure why he decided to do a coin flipish opening.
Clearly because he felt it gave him the best chance to win.
virus was on Huks list of people he wanted to play, which means he probably thinks hes better then virus etc. If thats the case why would you go for an opening what will put you at a severe disadvantage if your opponent builds a missile turret
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Ok, after seeing that baneling hit on the thors, I have to say that it wasn't just Nada screwing up, Nestea was fuck clever. He attacked before spines were finished/destroyed, he didn't reveal the banelings and only lots of lings. Nada is not gonna give 3 times the surface area because a baneling flank might come. It is impossible to split thors after seeing the banelings, this will simply increase the splash.
So, people are expecting Nada to pre split thors, meaning full surrounds by lings, for the off chance someone sends 50 banelings. The splitting of the thors would make the push slower and considering Nada was pseudo all in, he couldn't simply attack slowly.
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