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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9941
On September 18 2011 06:10 Pipeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:03 mrtomjones wrote:
what a stupid idea to not split prize money. That just screws the other players over. They deserve a financial boost for performing in a tournament.


Please take time and get your facts straight before you comment.

All players were flown to Valencia for free.
All players got to stay at a 5 star hotel.
All players had their own computers available during the entire event.
Top 2 gets wildcards to DH winter.
Winner got 15000 USD.

Even idra said they treat you like gods and I would imagine you're pretty well treated if he says something like that xD
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9942
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure


I think Dreamhack puts on a better show.
MLG feels a bit more disconnected even though they do have a stage.
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:12:53
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9943
On September 18 2011 06:09 Spitmode wrote:
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On September 18 2011 06:07 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Great tournament ^^ Dreamhack>MLG.


the american fanboys probably not going to agree, but yea, dreamhacks production was A LOT better than MLGs. by far.


It's also an invitational, not an open event, and as such is far smaller and easier to manage and budget as a result.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9944
On September 18 2011 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:05 akaname wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:02 MrShankly wrote:
what the fuck.... no money or interview for thorzain? Not even a badge? :O

he has to leave by the 'loser's exit' so nobody can see him


He also had to walk home.

LOL i can picture it now
There can be only none
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9945
On September 18 2011 06:05 Euronyme wrote:
Here's the reason the stream was laggy btw
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kivv9/dreamhack_valencia_lag_issues/


That's really cool of them. Guess I won't whine about Twitch no more (or at least for a while ^^)
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9946
On September 18 2011 06:08 Pyskee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:03 hugman wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:02 redviper wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:59 Zalitara wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:58 ensign_lee wrote:
I was about to ask myself if DRG was 21, but then I realized this was in Europe lol
In Europe a sip of champagne is no big deal at all. Would americans actually react if someone underage had a sip of champagne?


Its a crime to provide alcohol to anyone not of the legal drinking age. In some states its also a felony. To do it in on TV (or livestream) would be quite bad.

I got to taste beer when I was in kindergarten

Most kids did. And 99.99% of them don't like it, which keeps them off of alcohol for at least a decade or so. Not the point.

The point is, it's just champagne. In basically every part of the world, champagne is used for celebrating. I highly doubt anyone -- even if this took place in America -- is going to get in trouble for giving the winner of $15,000 a sip of alcohol.


Legal age for alcohol is 16 in most european countries. Hard liquor 18. So he's free to drink as much as he wants, even on TV
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9947
[image loading]

U mad?

Live on Three Wednesday for more fun!

User was warned for this post
qck
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9948
On September 18 2011 06:04 Crowned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:03 Barburas wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:01 Crowned wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:56 Cpadolf wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:55 Crowned wrote:
Thorzain fanboys can go back into their holes.


Oh, yeah, he only went 3-2 against the best ZvT player in the world. I guess DRG showed us wrong for liking such a shitty player!


Moral victory? cool.


You're just being obnoxious for no reason or what? Thorzain did very well, DRG did better but it doesn't mean you need to be a dick to Thorzain or people who are fans of him.


lol


Good post, would read again.

Excellent finals, DRG playing really fucking well and ThorZaIN once again proving to be a leading light in the StarCraft eSports community.
"Who'd like a banger in the mouth? Oh, Christ, I forgot! Here in the States you call it a 'sausage' in the mouth." -- Tobias Fünke
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9949
On September 18 2011 06:12 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure


I think Dreamhack puts on a better show.
MLG feels a bit more disconnected even though they do have a stage.

MLG puts me on 240P, where can't even see the game
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9950
On September 18 2011 06:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:07 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Great tournament ^^ Dreamhack>MLG.

Really sad that Thorzain couldnt take :,( Ah well made for great final, to bad DRG didnt go up against one of the protoss earlier, would have won Thorzain the tournament


To be fair, Dreamhack is never going to come close to MLG. That being said, both tournaments are great!

I think it's cool we're going to hit 500 pages too


MLG has the crowd and Code A/S spots. Dreamhack has production, worlds biggest LAN and best foreigners(EU players mainly).

To me it´s pretty even.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9951
On September 18 2011 06:09 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure


You mean host an 8 man event with no open tourney?

And European award ceremonies are the worst, by far.

NASL says hello.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9952
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward

lol were we watching the same ceremony? DRG not knowing how to open a bottle of champagne was pretty funny/awkward to watch. Especially when they opened it for him and it just fizzled out XD
"If you really don't give a shit what brand you chew, chew Stride." - Liquid'Tyler. Gives shoutouts like a boss.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9953
Finally a tournament with a great finals both players played great. I feel like thorizan had it won but drgs great muta control took to much out as thor tried to slow push and then got Caught with his tanks unsieged for a millisec. That was also a really great build sniping the third before siege and mutas pop and then coming back with a huge timing or marine tank hellion I think on just about any map besides meta cross positions thorizan wins with that push
Moar banelings less qq
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9954
On September 18 2011 06:12 Notfragile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:08 Pyskee wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 hugman wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:02 redviper wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:59 Zalitara wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:58 ensign_lee wrote:
I was about to ask myself if DRG was 21, but then I realized this was in Europe lol
In Europe a sip of champagne is no big deal at all. Would americans actually react if someone underage had a sip of champagne?


Its a crime to provide alcohol to anyone not of the legal drinking age. In some states its also a felony. To do it in on TV (or livestream) would be quite bad.

I got to taste beer when I was in kindergarten

Most kids did. And 99.99% of them don't like it, which keeps them off of alcohol for at least a decade or so. Not the point.

The point is, it's just champagne. In basically every part of the world, champagne is used for celebrating. I highly doubt anyone -- even if this took place in America -- is going to get in trouble for giving the winner of $15,000 a sip of alcohol.


This is really pathetic. Yeah, alcoholism is promoted by a nerd not knowing how to open a bottle of champagne....

Just don't... wrong... never mention this shit again... 15 legal age for driving (this is actually INSANE, what maturity can a kid of 15 have) 18 to be able to go to the army and make legal decisions, yet 21 to have a sip of beer or champagne...

Don't ever try to bring this topic up ^^


By the way, congrtats to DRG he deserved it!!


You actually managed to miss the entire point of the post you're quoting.

Good job.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9955
On September 18 2011 06:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


Agreed. I had to watch Dreamhack on 480p, and I almost never have to lower my stream's resolution x.x

Regardless, I loved the tournament. Great players, great casters, great performance overall

not really dreamhacks fault tho http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kivv9/dreamhack_valencia_lag_issues/ , but yeah maybe they should get a stream for only dreamhack like MLG.
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noobie noobb
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation20 Posts
September 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#9956
Dreamhack forever!
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
September 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#9957
On September 18 2011 06:11 Evangelist wrote:
Think we could beg Day9 to do a hardcore analysis of that absurdly good finals?


Finals seemed kind of sloppy, I'd rather see analysis of the HerO-IdrA series.
/commercial
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:14:36
September 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#9958
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure

I couldn't care less about all that if I have to watch on 240p to see anything without major lag.
fjjotizz
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden153 Posts
September 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#9959
Great event. Love it, its so nice with a short and juicy event like DH.
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Lokj
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands439 Posts
September 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#9960
On September 18 2011 06:12 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:08 Pyskee wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 hugman wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:02 redviper wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:59 Zalitara wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:58 ensign_lee wrote:
I was about to ask myself if DRG was 21, but then I realized this was in Europe lol
In Europe a sip of champagne is no big deal at all. Would americans actually react if someone underage had a sip of champagne?


Its a crime to provide alcohol to anyone not of the legal drinking age. In some states its also a felony. To do it in on TV (or livestream) would be quite bad.

I got to taste beer when I was in kindergarten

Most kids did. And 99.99% of them don't like it, which keeps them off of alcohol for at least a decade or so. Not the point.

The point is, it's just champagne. In basically every part of the world, champagne is used for celebrating. I highly doubt anyone -- even if this took place in America -- is going to get in trouble for giving the winner of $15,000 a sip of alcohol.


Legal age for alcohol is 16 in most european countries. Hard liquor 18. So he's free to drink as much as he wants, even on TV


heh. if you take notice of this you should be realise you've been brought up into a too strict environment, until i see a pair of tits my eyebrows aint being raised
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