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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
September 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#9921
On September 18 2011 06:07 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Great tournament ^^ Dreamhack>MLG.


the american fanboys probably not going to agree, but yea, dreamhacks production was A LOT better than MLGs. by far.
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
September 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#9922
On September 18 2011 06:03 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:00 netsky4 wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:58 ragnorr wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:57 netsky4 wrote:
Dreamhack should learn from the SCI, where everyone gets money
Without this Dreamhack will sadly never be the best tournament

Its the whole point of this tournement. They got dreamhack to give out pricemoney to more people.

its still "hurting" Esports, if I may say so


I never say this but...

shut the fuck up about "hurting esports"

You are right, but no need for the aggressive tune lol
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
September 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#9923
Is that post-tourney Swedish stream only available to subscribers?
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
September 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#9924
On September 18 2011 06:07 parazice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:01 Zorgaz wrote:
Haha Brilliant.

Robert - Winter is coming :D

(If you don't get it then shame on you)


A song of ice and fire like? XD


Ye of course , awesome stuff :D
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Zalitara
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway361 Posts
September 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#9925
One of the best tournaments I've ever seen. Short wait between games, and every break there were a timer showing the time and when the next match started so you didn't have to worry about timezones that is fucking superb. I am one of those guys who love dApollo and TB so the casting was awesome as well for me. The games were awesome. Great picture quality (little hickups but come on, wasn't that bad). And watching DRG after he won made me all warm inside, so happy. The biggest disapointment for me was that they fucked up the champagne. Looking forward to DH winter. For once, winter cannot come fast enough.
Live to win
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
September 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#9926
On September 18 2011 06:03 mrtomjones wrote:
what a stupid idea to not split prize money. That just screws the other players over. They deserve a financial boost for performing in a tournament.


Please take time and get your facts straight before you comment.

All players were flown to Valencia for free.
All players got to stay at a 5 star hotel.
All players had their own computers available during the entire event.
Top 2 gets wildcards to DH winter.
Winner got 15000 USD.
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
September 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#9927
On September 18 2011 06:09 dizzy101 wrote:
Is that post-tourney Swedish stream only available to subscribers?


It costs 1 SEK and you can cancel your Aftonbladet PLUS directly after, but probably only works for swedes tho :<.
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#9928
Good games, great production, only managed to tune in to the finals, but looking forward to future events!
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9929
On September 18 2011 06:06 Talin wrote:
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On September 18 2011 06:05 Euronyme wrote:
Here's the reason the stream was laggy btw
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kivv9/dreamhack_valencia_lag_issues/


Show nested quote +

edit: special thanks to R1CH from TeamLiquid for helping us pin down this bug.


As usual, the Wizard is on the ball.

R1CH <3

Saving eSports :D GJ R1CH
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Havefa1th
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9930
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure

Have you been to an MLG? They know how to put on a show. As for a quick game turnover... there are 256+ people competing with 4 games and 4 stages...it's understandable how a tournament with 8 players has a faster game turnover.

Blame the ceremony on American MLG staff who haven't done anything with SC2 before starting the past year or so. As for advertisements, can't complain there.

You can't say that MLG has a shitty production, because it doesn't. MLG is very VERY high quality, and so is Dreamhack. They're just two different beasts.
"Apparently I just needed to play the way I did... and realize he killed his own command center." - Idra
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9931
On September 18 2011 06:09 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure


You mean host an 8 man event with no open tourney?

And European award ceremonies are the worst, by far.


I mean literally host, as in compare 2gd to JP. And it's an invitational so ofc there's no open tourney, that's the essentials of the tournament though.

Regarding the last part, that's an opinion but I didn't cringe once during that one.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9932
On September 18 2011 06:10 Pipeline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:03 mrtomjones wrote:
what a stupid idea to not split prize money. That just screws the other players over. They deserve a financial boost for performing in a tournament.


Please take time and get your facts straight before you comment.

All players were flown to Valencia for free.
All players got to stay at a 5 star hotel.
All players had their own computers available during the entire event.
Top 2 gets wildcards to DH winter.
Winner got 15000 USD.


Pretty much free "vacation" with a chance to win some money at the same time.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9933
Any word on vods?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9934
Think we could beg Day9 to do a hardcore analysis of that absurdly good finals?
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 21:11:40
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9935
On September 18 2011 06:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:07 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Great tournament ^^ Dreamhack>MLG.

Really sad that Thorzain couldnt take :,( Ah well made for great final, to bad DRG didnt go up against one of the protoss earlier, would have won Thorzain the tournament


To be fair, Dreamhack is never going to come close to MLG. That being said, both tournaments are great!

I think it's cool we're going to hit 500 pages too


yeah, just ask 2gd

you americans... )
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9936
what a day I had. woke up, watched OSL finals (which was epic), went to work, came back home and watched the last 2 maps of Dreamhack. #starcraftalldaylong
keep it deep! @zulison
Licit
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan237 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9937
aftonbladet stream is so awkward atm....
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9938
DH is way better than MLG... MLG is sooooo bad.
1) LAME points system makes bad players seeded OVER AND OVER...
2) No HD
3) Waiting times
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
September 17 2011 21:11 GMT
#9939
On September 18 2011 06:08 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:06 TaKemE wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:04 Spitmode wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:03 Noocta wrote:
And that's why Dreamhack is the best tournament, period. Great matches, great production, and it's Free !


so true. best production BY FAR! mlg, please watch this and learn.


What does MLG need to learn? they for sure had a better stream.


How to host an event, quick game turnover, how to do a concise ceremony that isn't awkward, how to do adverts. There are many others I'm sure

Lol?

Quick game turnover is always going to be an issue when you have SO MANY GAMES played over the weekend. I do think MLG needs to just put on games regardless of having no casters though to fill the gaps.

You're telling me that ceremony wasn't awkward? Loool. All those jokes on stage where borderline awkward depending on your sense of humor.

MLG> DH sorry.
I love crazymoving
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
September 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#9940
On September 18 2011 06:08 Pyskee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 06:03 hugman wrote:
On September 18 2011 06:02 redviper wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:59 Zalitara wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:58 ensign_lee wrote:
I was about to ask myself if DRG was 21, but then I realized this was in Europe lol
In Europe a sip of champagne is no big deal at all. Would americans actually react if someone underage had a sip of champagne?


Its a crime to provide alcohol to anyone not of the legal drinking age. In some states its also a felony. To do it in on TV (or livestream) would be quite bad.

I got to taste beer when I was in kindergarten

Most kids did. And 99.99% of them don't like it, which keeps them off of alcohol for at least a decade or so. Not the point.

The point is, it's just champagne. In basically every part of the world, champagne is used for celebrating. I highly doubt anyone -- even if this took place in America -- is going to get in trouble for giving the winner of $15,000 a sip of alcohol.


This is really pathetic. Yeah, alcoholism is promoted by a nerd not knowing how to open a bottle of champagne....

Just don't... wrong... never mention this shit again... 15 legal age for driving (this is actually INSANE, what maturity can a kid of 15 have) 18 to be able to go to the army and make legal decisions, yet 21 to have a sip of beer or champagne...

Don't ever try to bring this topic up ^^


By the way, congrtats to DRG he deserved it!!
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
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