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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8121
On September 18 2011 04:52 xN.07)MaK wrote:
People, stop criticizing Thorzain for not ending that faster. We know who DRG and he beat him in a damn macro game.

Don't remember last time a foreigner looked so strong vs the top of the top (not only vs koreans but vs the best koreans).



I BELIEVE!

he won when he killed like 20 drones then just spooned him to death.

wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8122
I actually like thorzains spoon killer playstyle, playing slow and stead is like watching a noose slowly tighten around someone's neck until they die.
liftlift > tsm
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8123
On September 18 2011 04:54 Flowjo wrote:
DRG won't lose on this map. It's impossible lol. Just try imagining it.

terran can do some really sick contains on this map
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8124
On September 18 2011 04:55 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:53 marttorn wrote:
Remember DreamHack winter?

Thorzain was this nobody... and he stayed a nobody, losing ezpz to WhiteRa in the group stages




What's the point of your post?


Commemorate how far Tzain has come since then



what with being in the finals of a huge tourney and all ^_^
memes are a dish best served dank
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:56:55
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8125
On September 18 2011 04:53 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:50 flagg wrote:
Thorzain in his worst matchup vs. a top 3 Korean Zerg with his best matchup.

The score is 1-1.

Looks like the gap between Koreans and foreigners are getting smaller, whatever the series will end in.


That's what people said when Idra beat MC 2-1 at Columbus.

The gap is still gigantic. There are a few exceptions, but even then, a gigantic gap. Going to take years until foreigners can compete consistently in bigger tournaments.


I agree. Also, considering Thorzain has improved his play through Korean training, if he wins it just shows how effective it is.
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8126
so we finally know the hoodie guy
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
September 17 2011 19:56 GMT
#8127
On September 18 2011 04:55 snakeeyez wrote:
I think foreigners will catch koreans soon because the skill ceiling on starcraft 2 is pretty low compared to brood war so koreans cant get much better then top ones like nestea or mvp play at right now.


Remeber that no matter the skill ceiling there are mutiple expansions which will prolly change the game quite alot. With the korean practice schedule each expansion i think theyll pull far ahead.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8128
On September 18 2011 04:53 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:52 Takezou wrote:
On September 18 2011 04:50 flagg wrote:
Thorzain in his worst matchup vs. a top 3 Korean Zerg with his best matchup.

The score is 1-1.

Looks like the gap between Koreans and foreigners are getting smaller, whatever the series will end in.



oh cmon man Thorzain is one of my favorite but you are basing this of one freaking game.

That can hardly be credible evidence.




On top of that Thorzain is korean anyways.

and they shot DRG five times in the chest before the second game
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8129


:o Should have been there
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8130
Thorzain really just needed a Thor out with his army way earlier and it would have looked a lot better. Can't snipe marine groups with a Thor around.
ragealot
Profile Joined July 2011
432 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8131
On September 18 2011 04:49 Nifel wrote:
Urgh this foreign bias is pretty unsightly. Sure Thorzain is good but really?


Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded. Swedish player in the final of a Swedish competition with coverage from one of their biggest newspaper, a Thorzain win can only be good for ESPORTS growth.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8132
On September 18 2011 04:56 PapaJed wrote:
Thorzains favourite spoon-killer-map! Just keep those mutas off the tanks plz!

I hate to ask but can someone fill me in on that spoon thing?
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8133
C'mon Thorzain!
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8134
On September 18 2011 04:55 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:51 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Thorzain needs some TvZ lessons from Select.

You gotta have your marines grouped, and just go in a large clump, if you see banelings you need to do those quick splits. Slow pushes work in TvP but in TvZ vs a large muta cloud either go more aggresive or make a couple thors or this will be a quick 3-1 series.


They play the matchup totally different. It is like trying to argue with a bio guy to go mech. Some people just like one style over another. Thorzain plays passive and safe TvZ.

That game makes me think of what Nada said in his MLG interview with Slasher, saying that almost all foreign players seem to play overly safe. I need to go back and rewatch that interview.


Well the idea is a player needs to be able to play several different styles, because in this certain situation the way SelecT plays would have worked A LOT better.

I do feel like DGR really knows Thorzain's style, and made the perfect unit composition against it. Thorzain had a good army vs banelings/infestors but instead all he got was mutas and more mutas.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:58:07
September 17 2011 19:57 GMT
#8135
On September 18 2011 04:57 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:56 PapaJed wrote:
Thorzains favourite spoon-killer-map! Just keep those mutas off the tanks plz!

I hate to ask but can someone fill me in on that spoon thing?


He kills his opponents slow as hell. Basically hes killing you with a spoon.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
September 17 2011 19:58 GMT
#8136
On September 18 2011 04:56 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:55 grobo wrote:
On September 18 2011 04:53 marttorn wrote:
Remember DreamHack winter?

Thorzain was this nobody... and he stayed a nobody, losing ezpz to WhiteRa in the group stages




What's the point of your post?


Commemorate how far Tzain has come since then



what with being in the finals of a huge tourney and all ^_^


And then there was the TSL.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
RoMGraViTy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States314 Posts
September 17 2011 19:58 GMT
#8137
Valencia crowd is a def winner in my book! They actually did a korean cheer for DRG!

1 2 3 DONGRAEGU FIGHTING!
"Khaldor is a younger version of Goro from Mortal Kombat" - Tasteless
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
September 17 2011 19:58 GMT
#8138
On September 18 2011 04:57 Pipeline wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjoIS1vYFYo

:o Should have been there


That place looks awsome. I need to experience a barcraft one of these days
blah blah blah...
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 19:59 GMT
#8139
On September 18 2011 04:58 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:56 marttorn wrote:
On September 18 2011 04:55 grobo wrote:
On September 18 2011 04:53 marttorn wrote:
Remember DreamHack winter?

Thorzain was this nobody... and he stayed a nobody, losing ezpz to WhiteRa in the group stages




What's the point of your post?


Commemorate how far Tzain has come since then



what with being in the finals of a huge tourney and all ^_^


And then there was the TSL.


Yeah w/e, some minor tourney with Nestea, MC, BoxeR, Fruitdealer and MVP in it. Not worth mentioning imo.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk's jk's
memes are a dish best served dank
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 17 2011 19:59 GMT
#8140
FUCK°!
Micro the tank!
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