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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8021
On September 18 2011 04:47 hewley wrote:
I remember reading somewhere that Thorzains relative low apm is the reason why tvz is his worst matchup, as his hands are too slow for the intense marine splitting tank sieging pushes. If you look carefully, he splits his marines prematurely, so that he has time to focus on macro in his bases.
I don't see Thorzain winning this if doesnt get a huge lead like this game.
But I still hope he can take DRG down.


If he stayed in Korea for another 3 months he could've brought his APM up to par. Apparently Korean coaches are pretty strict about forcing their players to change the way they play to boost APM before focusing on other mechanics.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8022
On September 18 2011 04:46 Zarahtra wrote:
This is why i say it doesn't really work that well TvZ to take artosis advice of "when ahead, get more ahead". He almost lost that game, while playing pretty damn well, just because he didn't pull the trigger :/

Artosis's advice works when you are actually capable of playing a macro game solidly versus some of the best in the world. Thorzain demonstrated that he isn't on DRG's level yet, just getting drawn and quartered by DRG's muta control. I guarantee you if MVP was in a similar situation, had he decided to go into a macro game it would have been far less close.
GuMiho <3
Jandos
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Czech Republic928 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8023
is this bo5 ?
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8024
On September 18 2011 04:48 beamingrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:46 Kafkaesk wrote:
Thorzain barely winning against DRG with a 30 worker lead in the beginning?
No way he will win this tournament.


Exactly my thoughts. DRG is playing so well.


yup
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8025
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 18 2011 04:47 drcatellino wrote:
SPOONED !

[image loading]



Oh my god, i laugh so hard at this.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8026
goddamn you europeans sure know how to do media. everything looks so professional.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
September 17 2011 19:48 GMT
#8027
obviously the spoon became AK-47 when the 3-3 marines finished
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8028
On September 18 2011 04:48 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:46 MandoRelease wrote:
Thorzain took an extraordinary lead at the beginning, ahead almost by 50 supply at some point, and still almost lost that game. DRG is really on another level.


No, Thorzain could've ended it when he was 50 food ahead. He could've a-moved into DRG's base and won it.



....But he didn't. And that will cost him.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8029
HerO losing 2-0 to Thorzain... and HuK losing 2-1 against Thorzan..... To PvTers losing to Terran....
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8030
On September 18 2011 04:47 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:46 mango_destroyer wrote:
how did DRG even make a game out of that.

Cause this tactic dosent work vs zergs with good muta control. DRG was just wayyyy to far behind


Yep.. if he hadn't dealt lethal damage, getting picked apart would have meant the end. He nearly lost the game and I don't think he could have come back from a loss there psychologically.
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8031
SpoonvZ
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8032
Awesome muta control made this so close. I though he was gonna lose when those mutas went rampant on his base: so MANY of them!
"more gg, more skill"
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8033
Was painful to see that spoon take so long to kill him. Everyone has different playstyles though. Wish he would invest a ton into turrets at home so all he had to worry about is his slow contain.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Cultoviac
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany18 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8034
Not sure if brilliant mindgame or mindstuck on tank/marine and still won.
Great game by both players.
Some people pray, I just turn up the radio.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8035
Gooo thorzain. 3-3 Marines against 0-0 is beaaaast.

Wouldve liked to see a much earlier thor though :X
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8036
what I cant mute adds wtf !?!?!? :@
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8037
On September 18 2011 04:47 XiGua wrote:
ThorZaIN:


LOL holy moses
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8038
On September 18 2011 04:48 whirlpool wrote:
obviously the spoon became AK-47 when the 3-3 marines finished


LOL that describes my thoughts so well.

Mutas were destroying isolated marines and then 3-3 hits and those "isolated" marines were just fine against the mutalisks.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8039
On September 18 2011 04:48 Jandos wrote:
is this bo5 ?

Yes, Finals are bo5.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Sithril
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovakia169 Posts
September 17 2011 19:49 GMT
#8040
Oh my.... why? WHY?! Spoon killer why?

Why didn't you just go for it and snap his neck? Aaaarrrh... ^^ gg! (But it was sooo painfull watching those mutas snipe 3-5 marines/tanks here-and-there for 10+ mins.)
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