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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8061
On September 18 2011 04:49 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:47 XiGua wrote:
ThorZaIN:


LOL holy moses

Oh my dear... this is hilarious, HAHA.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Licit
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan237 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8062
On September 18 2011 04:50 MR KING wrote:
haha most hilarious and awkward transition into commercial ever on the swedish stream

hahah I died
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8063
Thorzain needs some TvZ lessons from Select.

You gotta have your marines grouped, and just go in a large clump, if you see banelings you need to do those quick splits. Slow pushes work in TvP but in TvZ vs a large muta cloud either go more aggresive or make a couple thors or this will be a quick 3-1 series.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8064
hola cArn
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8065
On September 18 2011 04:50 flagg wrote:
Thorzain in his worst matchup vs. a top 3 Korean Zerg with his best matchup.

The score is 1-1.

Looks like the gap between Koreans and foreigners are getting smaller, whatever the series will end in.


Just one game and you're saying this?
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:51:39
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8066
did eizo need adv at all? lol
No carpal tunnel no skill
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8067
On September 18 2011 04:50 AWakefield wrote:
Suppy was misleading. Yes there were even but Thorzains upgrades were so far ahead.

This. No one messes with 3-3 marines.
no dude, the question
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:52:01
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8068
On September 18 2011 04:50 Ryka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:49 Nifel wrote:
Urgh this foreign bias is pretty unsightly. Sure Thorzain is good but really?


It's human nature to cheer on underdogs, that's what makes the Rocky films so good!


I'm always cheering for FlaSh in order to see him getting closer to the 100% win ratio!
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8069
Bitch betta recognize, n*gga just got spooned mang

Listen, from here on, there will be no sexual connotations associated with spooning, unless you find Tzains style sexually arousing.

I don't blame you
memes are a dish best served dank
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8070
On September 18 2011 04:50 AWakefield wrote:
Suppy was misleading. Yes there were even but Thorzains upgrades were so far ahead.

also zerg should never really want to be just even vs T or P.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8071
On September 18 2011 04:47 Deadlyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:45 Logros wrote:
Thorzains has to really pull something if he wants to win this series. DRG almost came back from such a huge disadvantage but DRG isn't going to let that happen easily 2 more times.



Yea, the only reason Thorzain really had a chance is because he killed like 20 drones so early. When you almost lose a game after such an advantage you really need to step it up : /


He is stepping it up. You have to consider their current skill level.

(also killing 20 drones can be considered a feat in itself)
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8072
On September 18 2011 04:48 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:46 MandoRelease wrote:
Thorzain took an extraordinary lead at the beginning, ahead almost by 50 supply at some point, and still almost lost that game. DRG is really on another level.


No, Thorzain could've ended it when he was 50 food ahead. He could've a-moved into DRG's base and won it.


But he didn't. He had questionnable decision making, which is part of the game, and part of the reasons for my statement.
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 19:52:09
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8073
On September 18 2011 04:50 flagg wrote:
Thorzain in his worst matchup vs. a top 3 Korean Zerg with his best matchup.

The score is 1-1.

Looks like the gap between Koreans and foreigners are getting smaller, whatever the series will end in.


Meh, Thorzain has been practicing with SlayerS; he's also really good. As much as I would like the gap to be getting smaller, I really don't see one European (who has been practicing with a Korean pro-team) winning one game as proof of the gap diminishing.

Look at MLG
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
September 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#8074
On September 18 2011 04:48 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:46 MandoRelease wrote:
Thorzain took an extraordinary lead at the beginning, ahead almost by 50 supply at some point, and still almost lost that game. DRG is really on another level.


No, Thorzain could've ended it when he was 50 food ahead. He could've a-moved into DRG's base and won it.


Ya that works really well vs mutas since you can just lift your buildings in case of base trade, and you never have to worry about banelings on creep, burrow, or the possibility of infestors which insta lose you the game.

Definitely should've a-moved.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#8075
On September 18 2011 04:51 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Thorzain needs some TvZ lessons from Select.

You gotta have your marines grouped, and just go in a large clump, if you see banelings you need to do those quick splits. Slow pushes work in TvP but in TvZ vs a large muta cloud either go more aggresive or make a couple thors or this will be a quick 3-1 series.

he has low apm, so he premature splits marines while he macros, so he doesn't lose all his marines to some banelings
liftlift > tsm
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
September 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#8076
On September 18 2011 04:46 Scribble wrote:
Really exciting matches so far, but I feel bad for Thorzain. He is saddled with the worst nickname in the history of anything.


Bullshit. To quote from the hype thread, he's the only one who single handedly made blizzard nerf a unit. Guess which one it was?
It was silly before TSL, but after those thors.. damn son.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
jambOng
Profile Joined January 2010
United States86 Posts
September 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#8077
Why did TB say upgrades don't really matter much in game 2? Clearly thorzain's 3/3 marines outclass DRG's 1/0 mutas, even with DRG's amazing muta harass.
GG.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#8078
On September 18 2011 04:51 beamingrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 04:50 flagg wrote:
Thorzain in his worst matchup vs. a top 3 Korean Zerg with his best matchup.

The score is 1-1.

Looks like the gap between Koreans and foreigners are getting smaller, whatever the series will end in.


Just one game and you're saying this?


Lol, people will take anything they can get to prove that foreigners are as good as Koreans. Let's just wait a couple months for some GSL results and we'll see if this is true. Thorzain definitely has code S potential, though, I can't deny that.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
September 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#8079
this is bo5 right?
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#8080
People, stop criticizing Thorzain for not ending that faster. We know who DRG and he beat him in a damn macro game.

Don't remember last time a foreigner looked so strong vs the top of the top (not only vs koreans but vs the best koreans).



I BELIEVE!
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