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Have fun everyone and enjoy todays games! <3

~Nyovne
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 08 2011 12:40 GMT
#2321
On September 08 2011 21:39 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:33 zeru wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistake and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.

He won because trickster made AWFUL decisions, not because he made good decisions himself, what he did was 100% obvious.


Trickster made -a- horrible mistake. If the game was well designed -a- mistake wouldn't just negate playing well the other 90% of the time. I'm saying the very nature of being able to make a DT and just negate not doing as well as the other guy is stupid and makes the game inherently coinflippy.

The rewards for stuff like clutch DT's is way too large. Even if technically balanced, it's just kind of bad design.


It is designed to punish greedy players that skip detection (even less of an excuse for Trickster considering he was ahead)
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
September 08 2011 12:40 GMT
#2322
Bit byyy bit!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50977 Posts
September 08 2011 12:40 GMT
#2323
On September 08 2011 21:39 Scrumdidlyumptious wrote:
MKP:
2nd in GSL Open Season 2
2nd in GOM All-Star Invitational
2nd in GSL Code S January
2nd in GSL World Championship
2nd in GSL Code A August

Currently 2:2 in the Up & Down matches with a chance for 2nd in his group


the kong is strong in this one.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2324
Very impressive tactical play by trickster.
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2325
On September 08 2011 21:39 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:33 zeru wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistake and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.

He won because trickster made AWFUL decisions, not because he made good decisions himself, what he did was 100% obvious.


Trickster made -a- horrible mistake. If the game was well designed -a- mistake wouldn't just negate playing well the other 90% of the time. I'm saying the very nature of being able to make a DT and just negate not doing as well as the other guy is stupid and makes the game inherently coinflippy.

The rewards for stuff like clutch DT's is way too large. Even if technically balanced, it's just kind of bad design.


Like... chess? You can play brilliantly all game, be ahead pieces, but by ignoring the strategic positioning of your pieces be checkmated due to a single (giant) mistake. You saying chess is a bad game? LOL. Your reasoning makes no sense: if you make a mistake as big as the one Tester made, you deserve to lose.
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2326
14:00 Thermal lance cancelled by Trickster. He sprints back to his base to slow JYP's attack. JYP with 2 collosi, Trickster has his first
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
lardroom
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1017 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2327
Holy shit, how?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2328
JYP's dancing Colossus <3

Fuck yeah JYP!
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2329
Why is trickster blinking away from the colossi instead of charging them in to focus fire them?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 08 2011 12:41 GMT
#2330
--- Nuked ---
Nightbiscuit
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden179 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2331
On September 08 2011 21:36 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistakes and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.


This is a horrible mindset for you, this is a strategy game where you have to make the best decisions based on information you have.

Lets look at Trickster's decision:
Decides to account for the chance of DT with the forge, builds one cannon to be super safe against it, yet then decides to move out. That is asking for a base trade unless you know for certain that JYPs army is at home.

Owned him? JYP was down but not out, I would say his blink stalker control would of beat Tricksters when it came down to it. Did JYP play a bit risky? Yes, but he calculated the risk vs reward and decided that the path he took was the better one. He won, so he is better in that game.


Problem is that making a dark shrine when you're behind isn't really a decision. He had basically lost the game and built a dark shrine, sort of as a free extra life. It's not like he had a lead to lose, building that dark shrine.


User was warned for this post
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2332
Gj JYP.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2333
revenge for MKP!!!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2334
Poll: Recommend game 11 ?

Yes (18)
 
90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 11 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2335
On September 08 2011 21:41 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:39 OrchidThief wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:33 zeru wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistake and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.

He won because trickster made AWFUL decisions, not because he made good decisions himself, what he did was 100% obvious.


Trickster made -a- horrible mistake. If the game was well designed -a- mistake wouldn't just negate playing well the other 90% of the time. I'm saying the very nature of being able to make a DT and just negate not doing as well as the other guy is stupid and makes the game inherently coinflippy.

The rewards for stuff like clutch DT's is way too large. Even if technically balanced, it's just kind of bad design.


Like... chess? You can play brilliantly all game, be ahead pieces, but by ignoring the strategic positioning of your pieces be checkmated due to a single (giant) mistake. You saying chess is a bad game? LOL. Your reasoning makes no sense: if you make a mistake as big as the one Tester made, you deserve to lose.


Game of the century, for example.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2336
JYP's superior army crushes Trickster. Trickster has to GG
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50977 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2337
JYP vs DRG in the GSL Code S PLEASE!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2338
What the fuck tester...if he had just blinked right on top of the army he would have won...
=O
nougdp
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany144 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2339
So nice control by JYP.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 08 2011 12:42 GMT
#2340
oh no... trickster had that but lost due to micro fail...
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
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