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Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:33 GMT
#2281
4:00 JYP drops second gas
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2282
Here we go, 4Gate for Trickster
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 12:35:12
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2283
4 gates vs not 4 gates, poor JYP
Except it's a 4 gates expand.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2284
4gate from Tester again, fast Robo from JYP
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2285
4:52 Tester with 4 gates, JYP with Robo facility
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 12:35:05
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2286
On September 08 2011 21:31 Goshawk. wrote:
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On September 08 2011 21:29 whirlpool wrote:
can someone do me a favor how many terrans in code S if MKP through, my heart doesn't strong enough


19 with MKP.


19 without MKP, 20 with.
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Mano
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States192 Posts
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2287
On September 08 2011 21:31 Goshawk. wrote:
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On September 08 2011 21:29 whirlpool wrote:
can someone do me a favor how many terrans in code S if MKP through, my heart doesn't strong enough


19 with MKP.

It's already 19 with Taeja, MKP would be 20 if he advances, and as much as I love TvT (not sarcasm, it's really my favorite match up) I still don't want 20 terrans in code S. Especially not if one is MKP.
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Nubsis
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden21 Posts
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2288
On September 08 2011 21:31 nanoscorp wrote:
MKP went 2-2 in his group to put himself in a tie for 2nd... as expected.

Will he win 2 games to claim exclusive rights to 2nd in his group?


Wow. Just. Wow.
Random is a way of life
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
September 08 2011 12:34 GMT
#2289
On September 08 2011 21:28 dainbramage wrote:
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On September 08 2011 21:26 MrCon wrote:
So, it's a 3 way tie for only one spot, that means someone needs to 2-0 his way to victory. This could be way longer than yesterday.
Or MKP could 111 and go to code S TT

At most it should only be one game extra.

If it ends up as 1-1-0 the player with 2 losses gets knocked out, then the 2 remaining players vie for the win.

Actually it's exactly the same situation as yesterday, except to 2 wins in a round. Rather than having the loser play again you need to have the winner play again. Its potential is exactly the same as yesterday, but rather than playing until there's a clear loser (losing to both other players in a single "round"), you play until there's a clear winner (beating both other players in a round).
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 08 2011 12:35 GMT
#2290
4gate expo out of Tester :O
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:35 GMT
#2291
6:30 Tester is defensive with his 4 gate again, drops a nexus
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
September 08 2011 12:35 GMT
#2292
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
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On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistakes and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.


He didn't own him the whole game. By making a defensive 4gate while JYP went for blink 3gate, Trickster got ahead army-wise, but JYP had control over the game. He couldn't kill Trickster right away, but decide whether to go for an expansion while trying to fake pressure with blink, which will mostly result into JYP winning the basetrade just as he did with DTs.
Nightbiscuit
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden179 Posts
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2293
On September 08 2011 21:32 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistake and two good decisions and won the game. That's Starcraft for ya.

Fixed it for you. If you don't like the nature of the game itself, you really shouldn't be here.


I like how you put words in my mouth, telling me what I like and don't like. That's an awesome argument.
I never said I didn't like it. I think it's entertaining but winning a game because you built a dark shrine is in no way fair.

Or is that perhaps how you win your games? That would explain things.
priste
Profile Joined September 2011
United States171 Posts
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2294
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistake and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.


All it takes is one mistake. He made that mistake and it cost him. Making a massive game-losing mistake is not outplaying in the long run. It's losing. And Trickster just proved that. He may have outplayed at first but oh well. It's like flying an airplane. You can fly it perfectly from the moment you take off, but, if you screw up the landing, that perfect flight doesn't mean a whole lot when you and your plane slam into the ground. xD
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 12:38:14
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2295
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistakes and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.


This is a horrible mindset for you, this is a strategy game where you have to make the best decisions based on information you have.

Lets look at Trickster's decision:
Decides to account for the chance of DT with the forge, builds one cannon to be super safe against it, yet then decides to move out. That is asking for a base trade unless you know for certain that JYPs army is at home.

Owned him? JYP was down but not out, I would say his blink stalker control would of beat Tricksters when it came down to it. Did JYP play a bit risky? Yes, but he calculated the risk vs reward and decided that the path he took was the better one. He won, so he is better in that game.

On September 08 2011 21:36 Nightbiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:32 Telcontar wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistake and two good decisions and won the game. That's Starcraft for ya.

Fixed it for you. If you don't like the nature of the game itself, you really shouldn't be here.


I like how you put words in my mouth, telling me what I like and don't like. That's an awesome argument.
I never said I didn't like it. I think it's entertaining but winning a game because you built a dark shrine is in no way fair.

Or is that perhaps how you win your games? That would explain things.


Fair? I didn't know the GSL banned DTs from competitive play. Here is a good section of Playing to Win to read: Playing to Win: Introducing the Scrub...
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HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 12:36:17
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2296
On September 08 2011 21:32 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:31 nanoscorp wrote:
MKP went 2-2 in his group to put himself in a tie for 2nd... as expected.

Will he win 2 games to claim exclusive rights to 2nd in his group?


Yeah, he really should get that 2nd spot.
(or does it mean he will be 2nd in the tiebreaker?)

ye, MKP will be 2nd for the right to be 2nd truly 2nd
No carpal tunnel no skill
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2297
7:30 JYP with his 2nd immortal, Collosus tech on the way
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 12:37:53
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2298
On September 08 2011 21:31 Nightbiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 21:28 priste wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:24 Nightbiscuit wrote:
I love how DTs work. You get totally outplayed and still get to flip a coin for like a 50/50 chance to win.


?

Trickster screwed up. JYP capitalized.

Remind me again how player A screws up, and player B notices it and takes advantage of it to win = player B outplayed?


Trickster owned him the whole game then made one mistake. Jyp made lots and lots of mistakes and two good decisions and won the game. That's DTs for ya.

There are little mistakes, big mistakes and retarded mistakes.

A little mistake is taking some shield damage on one of your first stalkers, and in PvP when both players micro perfectly will cost you the game,

A big mistake is losing your early stalker and will cost you the game if your opponent doesn't fuck up badly themself.

A retarded mistake is predicting DTs, preparing by getting detection in your own base and then moving out with no detection. If you lose to a mistake like this it doesn't matter how many mistakes you or your opponent has made, you deserve to lose.
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
September 08 2011 12:36 GMT
#2299
8:15 Tester starts blink. JYP starts his nexus
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 08 2011 12:37 GMT
#2300
This is actually kind of bad for JYP. His Robo Bay is a bit too late to punish the Nexus with a Colossus push.
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