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United Kingdom38256 Posts
On September 12 2011 01:59 Neelia wrote:
I'm wondering whether marine/tank/banshee will be a common TvP composition in the future. (Besides the allin version) That looked pretty neat.
Well we had that big time period back in March where a 2 base marine/tank/banshee push was very very popular but it went out of fashion since Toss seemed to learn to deal with it pretty fast. I was pretty surprised Socke struggled quite so much vs that one tbh o-o
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On September 12 2011 02:00 Ludwigvan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 01:56 Toadvine wrote:
Seeing games like this sort of makes me hope Marauders get removed from the game. Tanks are way more fun.
Although to be fair, Socke should've built a Stargate the moment he saw the second Port. Also should've had Templar ready at his third. I don't know if a Stargate ios the best idea. Fenixes are good, but then dde builds Vikings. Maybe double robo immo and templars just for feedback with stalkers?
He'd instantly kill all the Banshees, and in a battle the Phoenix would draw Viking fire from the Colossi.
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:D Socke needs a moment, as usual :D
go Socke, you can do it!
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Italy12246 Posts
On September 12 2011 02:00 Ludwigvan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 01:56 Toadvine wrote:
Seeing games like this sort of makes me hope Marauders get removed from the game. Tanks are way more fun.
Although to be fair, Socke should've built a Stargate the moment he saw the second Port. Also should've had Templar ready at his third. I don't know if a Stargate ios the best idea. Fenixes are good, but then dde builds Vikings. Maybe double robo immo and templars just for feedback with stalkers?
Given all the gas dde was investing in tanks+banshees, i think oldschool 2star phoenix+1robo colo would have worked really well there.
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On September 12 2011 01:55 Montana[TK] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 01:30 Telcontar wrote:On September 12 2011 01:26 Montana[TK] wrote:On September 12 2011 01:23 Telcontar wrote:On September 12 2011 01:22 youngminii wrote:
lol no siege mode.. Demuslim prefers this version of 1/1/1 as well. well Mvp and PuMa prefer it with siege mode and I'd weigh their preference a little more. But yeah, you can't say he "forgot" siege mode, most of the time we really don't know whether they did or it's preference. If you think about it though, siege mode doesn't make that much of a difference. Unless your opponent is going stalker heavy (which is contingent on you getting banshees), or quick colossi, siege mode doesn't really help that much against a zealot heavy army. It can actually hurt your marines more than anything else. Oh, and MVP only got siege mode against HuK, because he knows HuK loves getting a lot of sentries in the early stages of the game. If your opponent rushes Colossus with Lance on 1base you're pretty screwed without siege mode because 1 swipe = ~8 dead marines if the P focus-fires correctly and the Colossus practically never die.
If he's made of infinite time and money ye maybe. Colossu with lance off 1 base is so terrible you can prob just kill him with banshees.
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drinking lagavulin 16yo.
watching the finals.
feeling good.
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On September 12 2011 02:08 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 01:55 Montana[TK] wrote:On September 12 2011 01:30 Telcontar wrote:On September 12 2011 01:26 Montana[TK] wrote:On September 12 2011 01:23 Telcontar wrote:On September 12 2011 01:22 youngminii wrote:
lol no siege mode.. Demuslim prefers this version of 1/1/1 as well. well Mvp and PuMa prefer it with siege mode and I'd weigh their preference a little more. But yeah, you can't say he "forgot" siege mode, most of the time we really don't know whether they did or it's preference. If you think about it though, siege mode doesn't make that much of a difference. Unless your opponent is going stalker heavy (which is contingent on you getting banshees), or quick colossi, siege mode doesn't really help that much against a zealot heavy army. It can actually hurt your marines more than anything else. Oh, and MVP only got siege mode against HuK, because he knows HuK loves getting a lot of sentries in the early stages of the game. If your opponent rushes Colossus with Lance on 1base you're pretty screwed without siege mode because 1 swipe = ~8 dead marines if the P focus-fires correctly and the Colossus practically never die. If he's made of infinite time and money ye maybe. Colossu with lance off 1 base is so terrible you can prob just kill him with banshees.
Yeah if the T makes a ton of banshees 1base Colossus dies, I think the more relevant problem is that P can just FF in-half and delay for too long if you don't have siege to force the position.
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On September 12 2011 02:05 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 02:00 Ludwigvan wrote:On September 12 2011 01:56 Toadvine wrote:
Seeing games like this sort of makes me hope Marauders get removed from the game. Tanks are way more fun.
Although to be fair, Socke should've built a Stargate the moment he saw the second Port. Also should've had Templar ready at his third. I don't know if a Stargate ios the best idea. Fenixes are good, but then dde builds Vikings. Maybe double robo immo and templars just for feedback with stalkers? Given all the gas dde was investing in tanks+banshees, i think oldschool 2star phoenix+1robo colo would have worked really well there.
Yeah probably the best thing to do but imagine if some thors would be built. Then you can´t really deal with banshees/vikings. I hate playing and watching mech 
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DDE loses every time he tries to go MMM, should just keep building tanks and banshees. 
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sick fucking micro, ripped dde's head off
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On September 12 2011 02:16 Montana[TK] wrote:
sick fucking micro, ripped dde's head off
Getting pretty excited there are we? 
ahh you edited out the second one.
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Israel2209 Posts
6 medivacs before vikings, seems like he miscalculated that. Perhaps really wanted to drop asap?
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On September 12 2011 02:17 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 02:16 Montana[TK] wrote:
sick fucking micro, ripped dde's head off Getting pretty excited there are we?
There were a ton of subtleties that he controlled there. His colossus micro was perfect throughout. Sure, dde messed up by not having Vikings but I didn't expect that kind of control from Socke.
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On September 12 2011 02:17 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 02:16 Montana[TK] wrote:
sick fucking micro, ripped dde's head off Getting pretty excited there are we? ahh you edited out the second one.
haha sniped ;o
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Xel'Naga, 1/1/1 incoming.
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WP by Socke, damm very nice.
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On September 12 2011 02:17 Noam wrote:
6 medivacs before vikings, seems like he miscalculated that. Perhaps really wanted to drop asap?
dde has had late factories every time he went bio this SCI T_T
I think XNC is a good Protoss map tbh, it's ok for 1-1-1 but I don't think dde will do that here.
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EPT
