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ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 11 2011 17:21 GMT
#1981
Silly Apollo, we all know what he's gonna do on Xel Naga.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
September 11 2011 17:21 GMT
#1982
On September 12 2011 02:10 Montana[TK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 02:08 Numy wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:55 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:30 Telcontar wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:26 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:23 Telcontar wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:22 youngminii wrote:
lol no siege mode..

Demuslim prefers this version of 1/1/1 as well.


well Mvp and PuMa prefer it with siege mode and I'd weigh their preference a little more. But yeah, you can't say he "forgot" siege mode, most of the time we really don't know whether they did or it's preference.

If you think about it though, siege mode doesn't make that much of a difference. Unless your opponent is going stalker heavy (which is contingent on you getting banshees), or quick colossi, siege mode doesn't really help that much against a zealot heavy army. It can actually hurt your marines more than anything else.

Oh, and MVP only got siege mode against HuK, because he knows HuK loves getting a lot of sentries in the early stages of the game.

If your opponent rushes Colossus with Lance on 1base you're pretty screwed without siege mode because 1 swipe = ~8 dead marines if the P focus-fires correctly and the Colossus practically never die.


If he's made of infinite time and money ye maybe. Colossu with lance off 1 base is so terrible you can prob just kill him with banshees.



Yeah if the T makes a ton of banshees 1base Colossus dies, I think the more relevant problem is that P can just FF in-half and delay for too long if you don't have siege to force the position.

How would the protoss player know you don't have siege mode? And how many sentries is he going to send to your ramp while dealing with banshees? And since you have starport you could just elevator out and pick off those sentries.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 11 2011 17:22 GMT
#1983
2rax from dde
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
SayHello
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic147 Posts
September 11 2011 17:22 GMT
#1984
no 1-1-1
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 11 2011 17:22 GMT
#1985
Respect to dde for not going for the easy win.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 17:23:51
September 11 2011 17:23 GMT
#1986
fake 111

EDIT: looks like socke fell for it, going staragte
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 11 2011 17:23 GMT
#1987
On September 12 2011 02:21 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 02:10 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 12 2011 02:08 Numy wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:55 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:30 Telcontar wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:26 Montana[TK] wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:23 Telcontar wrote:
On September 12 2011 01:22 youngminii wrote:
lol no siege mode..

Demuslim prefers this version of 1/1/1 as well.


well Mvp and PuMa prefer it with siege mode and I'd weigh their preference a little more. But yeah, you can't say he "forgot" siege mode, most of the time we really don't know whether they did or it's preference.

If you think about it though, siege mode doesn't make that much of a difference. Unless your opponent is going stalker heavy (which is contingent on you getting banshees), or quick colossi, siege mode doesn't really help that much against a zealot heavy army. It can actually hurt your marines more than anything else.

Oh, and MVP only got siege mode against HuK, because he knows HuK loves getting a lot of sentries in the early stages of the game.

If your opponent rushes Colossus with Lance on 1base you're pretty screwed without siege mode because 1 swipe = ~8 dead marines if the P focus-fires correctly and the Colossus practically never die.


If he's made of infinite time and money ye maybe. Colossu with lance off 1 base is so terrible you can prob just kill him with banshees.



Yeah if the T makes a ton of banshees 1base Colossus dies, I think the more relevant problem is that P can just FF in-half and delay for too long if you don't have siege to force the position.

How would the protoss player know you don't have siege mode? And how many sentries is he going to send to your ramp while dealing with banshees? And since you have starport you could just elevator out and pick off those sentries.


I'm talking at the Protoss expo
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
September 11 2011 17:23 GMT
#1988
Hero Zealot lol
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
September 11 2011 17:23 GMT
#1989
lol 1hp zealot
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 11 2011 17:24 GMT
#1990
Why not 1/1/1 dde? On this map? At this stage of the series?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
September 11 2011 17:24 GMT
#1991
That Stalker is the only reason Socke's still alive. Bought so much time.
lalala
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 11 2011 17:25 GMT
#1992
wow. Socke is impressing me, that FF was super greedy and super smart
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 11 2011 17:29 GMT
#1993
lololo deserting probe
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
September 11 2011 17:29 GMT
#1994
lol why is that probe there
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
September 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#1995
Sockes about to win.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
September 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#1996
HOLY STORM BATMAN
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
September 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#1997
That might have been the most painful storm I've ever seen.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#1998
~15 marines or so went down in that first storm.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
September 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#1999
That ghost/medivac micro was sick :oo
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Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
September 11 2011 17:35 GMT
#2000
gg wp Socke
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
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