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1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance
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On August 28 2011 05:51 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:49 Jinivus wrote:On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world. No. He is not yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment off of that Based on his play and results off the last 6 months. Not several games. His play is alright, mindset awful. Sen, nerchio, stephano all so much better atm. Also Idra has never won a tournament that isn't pure NA. he isn't the best foreign zerg not by a long shot. So him beating Liquid Sheth (someone omst people consider pretty top, even better than Ret) in the finals of a major tournament a couple weeks ago means Sheth is also terrible or what? Has Sen won IPL or MLG or anything similar? Nerchio? Stephano? I mean, they each individually have consistent small results, but people talk about GSL as the Holy Grail because of its size and talent pool, thus I think larger tournaments count for more. Personally I think Sheth = IdrA in skill and both are pretty tip top of foreigners.
Actually Sen's NASL result is far superior to idra's IPL and MLG results. Idra won both tournaments when there were only foreigners. Sen won against Koreans.
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On August 28 2011 05:52 Shaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.
This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway? Benching 200.
The fuck? Yeah thats gonna make you better at SC2.
Is his keyboard made out of rocks or something?
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On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.
This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway?
Yeah because practice time always means results? It doesn't, sometimes you play bad, sometimes you are jet lagged, sometimes your mindset is off. How does one set actually prove anything about a player overall. It doesn't.
Arizona house hasn't even been up long enough to start producing results...I can say the same thing for Naniwa, he hasn't been in Korea long enough for his play-style to balance out and for him to feel good in the position he is in.
Everyone in this thread has to step back and just realize that it isn't as simple as person A beats person B in a Bo3 so Person A is so much better and the other person is trash. Any given Sunday, (Saturday actually).
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Just because u lose all the time to idra doesnt make him the best foreign zerg, TT1.
Its not one or two BO3 he lost, its months of losing to plenty of foreigners out there that made him lose this title
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im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday
Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?Nada (74) 65% Ret (40) 35% 114 total votes Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa? (Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada
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On August 28 2011 05:54 _Mittens wrote:
I'm a platinum league Zerg player, and I am mild to moderately confident I could take a series off Idra. I mean, it MIGHT be 2-1, but I would still take the series.
Damn that is the funniest thing I've read in years...........
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On August 28 2011 05:54 humbre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world. ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm* idra loses constantly to people nerchio/stephano/ret/dimaga beat, not to mention nerchio owned idra 3-0 practicaly outclassing him in every aspect of micro/macro
I'm not European and I still think they're better than NA. Look at the games and tourneys, just proves it.
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On August 28 2011 05:51 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:47 NuclearJudas wrote:On August 28 2011 05:46 Cyanocyst wrote:On August 28 2011 05:44 SiffStarcraft wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world. I'd put Ret over him... and Sheth is also a little better than him. Don't forget Sen. There's also that awesome dude called Dimaga! :D Is Dimaga still playing starcraft? I didn't see him play since he was in Korea, why do you think he is that good?
Only Zerg to ever beat Nestea in a bo3 ZvZ on Tv? There are no Koreans that can even say that.
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On August 28 2011 05:52 crms wrote:
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?
I also wonder how those guys even manage to stay on the team. They keep adding guys to the top of the team...shouldn't some from the bottom be dropped off?
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On August 28 2011 05:52 Herry wrote:
Bunker rushes only work if zerg is bad or makes a mistake. all of the best zerg players know exactly what to do vs bunkers.
I'm sorry but that is just not true. Bunker rushes are and will most likely stay a common sight in tvz, btw don't you remember that gsl semifinal with Nestea vs sc? Nestea lost a game to a bunker rush there
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On August 28 2011 05:53 Swad1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:47 Tantaburs wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
EG is having an extremely poor showing..... Puma is tearing it up and HuK is 2-2 in the group of death probably about to be 3-2 Look at there actual lineup of players instead of the ones they just bought from other teams with dirty cash.
Whats dirty about being better at business and having more money?
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haypro - bomber, they know how to pick anticlimatic matchups.
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On August 28 2011 05:48 N1k0 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:47 HigoSeco wrote:On August 28 2011 05:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 arfyron wrote:On August 28 2011 05:41 Caelixx wrote:
Nobelesse is seriously a coward for doing that, I'm sorry. I can't see anyone defending that. I'm a huge Idra fan but there's nothing cowardly about doing that. It's a really common opening that Idra should have been able to deal with. actually watch sheth vs select blizz invitational. same map same 3 bunkers same marine push sheth loses hatch wins game Idra has convinced everyone on the forums and himself that if you lose the hatchery you cant come back and win You cant unless your opponent is terrible, Noblesse is not terrible
You absolutely can come back after losing your hatchery, Losira has shown that he stops 2x bunker rush by waiting for an overwhelming amount of lings, preferably with speed, and then crushes it. If he deems it necessary to lose the hatch he will, as long as he kills every marine/scv with good efficiency he is not in a bad position.
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On August 28 2011 05:51 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:49 Jinivus wrote:On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world. No. He is not yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment off of that Based on his play and results off the last 6 months. Not several games. His play is alright, mindset awful. Sen, nerchio, stephano all so much better atm. Also Idra has never won a tournament that isn't pure NA. he isn't the best foreign zerg not by a long shot. So him beating Liquid Sheth (someone omst people consider pretty top, even better than Ret) in the finals of a major tournament a couple weeks ago means Sheth is also terrible or what? Has Sen won IPL or MLG or anything similar? Nerchio? Stephano? I mean, they each individually have consistent small results, but people talk about GSL as the Holy Grail because of its size and talent pool, thus I think larger tournaments count for more. Personally I think Sheth = IdrA in skill and both are pretty tip top of foreigners.
Sheth is better than idra. one bo3 zvz isn't that great of a way to measure skill. Winning MLG several months ago (when no foreigners were there and people still sucked at game) doesn't mean anything. Most people agree that european competition is better than in NA. Winning euro cups consistently (nerchio and stephano) is therefore more impressive.
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Oh Haypro vs Bomber up next. I want to root for the guy but I don't think I've ever seen Haypro perform well so far in SC2  . Will be a good TvZ lesson though!
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On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right? but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly The fuck? He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy? Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all? Hatch first openings is a greedy build. When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool. Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.
Its this stupid mentality that loses IdrA games.. Noblesse committed a lot of economy to that rush, IdrA would have been far ahead with a pool first still. It's 2 rax map, IdrA should have expected it.
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On August 28 2011 05:53 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:44 PartyBiscuit wrote:
The game was over, an unwinnable situation, Idra typed gg. Everyone is as usual overreacting to nothing. Maybe because people saw Sheth beat Select when he was in the same position as Idra was in?
So because select screwed up horribly idra should assume a better terran would too? If that's how you count on winning games you shouldnt even play to begin wiht.
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On August 28 2011 05:52 Allwars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 05:49 icarly wrote:
to be honest Nobeless played and looked much better than idra game 1. He carelessly lost mutas and was outmacro'd the entire game. 1 fungal won it for him. I can understand you don't like IdrA but, please, don't make yourself a fool in front of 20k people reading you. How can you say Noblesse outmacroed IdrA when he had 60-70 scvs for 2 patches of mineral in the main and 3-4 mineral patches in the gold. A bit of common sense please.
Dude there is nothing wrong with his post, he is 100% right.
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One thing Idra will always be good at is getting people to debate whether or not he's good anymore for 40 pages every time he has a match.
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