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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Designakrobat
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany558 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4841
On August 28 2011 05:47 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
EG is having an extremely poor showing.....


They're not worried, least they can bench more than any other progaming team.


cracked me up a bit :p
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" -IdrA
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4842
Bunker rushes only work if zerg is bad or makes a mistake. all of the best zerg players know exactly what to do vs bunkers.
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4843
2 non-streams for me while ret vs. puma is being played.;;
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4844
On August 28 2011 05:52 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:50 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:49 Treadmill wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment based off of that

whoa, TT1 standing up for IdrA. That seems surprising.

He did it yesterday too.

EG.TT1?


lolol, sry too chobo
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:53:19
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4845
On August 28 2011 05:50 hitpoint wrote:
So much Idra hate. But he seemed to do everything right that game. Built spine crawler as soon as the hatch finished, made lings as soon as he could, pulled drones before the SCV's even got there.... How do you even stop that rush? Seeing people win like that sucks.

Maybe he's just getting a lot of flack because of game 2, but it seems unwarranted. That roach rush can just kill someone who makes a lot of hellions.


Lol it is hardly unstoppable....if it was, you would see it work all the time and done all the time. Idra messed up and let the bunkers finish with bad control.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4846
On August 28 2011 05:52 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:50 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:49 Treadmill wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment based off of that

whoa, TT1 standing up for IdrA. That seems surprising.

He did it yesterday too.

EG.TT1?

or FnaticMSI.ggdra?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4847
On August 28 2011 05:50 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
man...........Ret vs Puma is where it's at


Games like this should be on right now instead of watching the crowd.
Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4848
On August 28 2011 05:47 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
EG is having an extremely poor showing.....


Puma is tearing it up and HuK is 2-2 in the group of death probably about to be 3-2


Look at there actual lineup of players instead of the ones they just bought from other teams with dirty cash.
Caspas
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany157 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4849
I really wonder, who in the world pays a pro for giving up that early. If IdrA doesn't manage to change his mind and getting even a spark of fighting spirit i hardly can accept him being part of esports. He's just destroying the image of what he earns money with. He's lacking fairness and he just behaving assholish. Nothing that is likable on him, so why are there people, giving him a platform to be like that...
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4850
lets stop arguing whos the best foreign zerg because of one tourney result please.

whats the best general response to that bunker play on shakuras? sacking your nat and going banes or just bringing all of your drones to deal with that? seems like idra did most of the things right.
DeG3n
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany130 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4851
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


Look at IPL...
at every american event americans get rolled, if koreans are there by koreans, if europeans are there by europeans
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4852
On August 28 2011 05:51 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:49 Jinivus wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment off of that

Based on his play and results off the last 6 months. Not several games. His play is alright, mindset awful. Sen, nerchio, stephano all so much better atm. Also Idra has never won a tournament that isn't pure NA. he isn't the best foreign zerg not by a long shot.


So him beating Liquid Sheth (someone omst people consider pretty top, even better than Ret) in the finals of a major tournament a couple weeks ago means Sheth is also terrible or what?

Has Sen won IPL or MLG or anything similar? Nerchio? Stephano? I mean, they each individually have consistent small results, but people talk about GSL as the Holy Grail because of its size and talent pool, thus I think larger tournaments count for more.

Personally I think Sheth = IdrA in skill and both are pretty tip top of foreigners.

You must not follow the European scene lol.
scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4853
Idra's early GGs aren't even funny anymore - they are just sad....
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4854
On August 28 2011 05:52 megapants wrote:
does EG even have a coach? Why don't these players actually work on their weaknesses instead of just playing games all day?


they don't have a coach. they have a management team that helps them get the dough
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4855
On August 28 2011 05:49 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:48 genius_man16 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:41 Caelixx wrote:
Nobelesse is seriously a coward for doing that, I'm sorry. I can't see anyone defending that.


Coward? For real? If you were in a tournament for tens of thousands of dollars you're telling me you wouldn't do anything and everything you could do to win?

Okay then.

Hell I'd freakin cannon rush every game if it worked enough for me to win the tournament.


I agree with everything you said. But what is this about a tournament for tens of thousands of dollars? Maybe if you let us know about it, we can all go to it instead of stick around for MLG.


National Championship (1) Event:

1st $50,000.00
2nd $25,000.00
3rd $15,000.00
4th $10,500.00
5th $7,500.00
6th $5,250.00
7th $3,750.00
8th $3,000.00
Dyrus | Vooby | Balls | Meteos | WildTurtle | Bjergsen | Cop | sexPeke | Xpecial | Aphromoo | Scarra |
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4856
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Kamikazess
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil400 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4857
Haypro vs Bomber incoming. Blue Stream.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4858
On August 28 2011 05:51 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:47 NuclearJudas wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 Cyanocyst wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 SiffStarcraft wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.



I'd put Ret over him... and Sheth is also a little better than him.

Don't forget Sen.

There's also that awesome dude called Dimaga! :D

Is Dimaga still playing starcraft? I didn't see him play since he was in Korea, why do you think he is that good?


Are you kidding me? He is one of the best, if not THE BEST Zerg in the world. But he said, MLGs Prizemoney isn't worth it, so he will not be attending MLG until they raise it. But he won Assembly some weeks ago, where he won more 12.000$ what is way more than 2 MLG Wins :p

♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4859
On August 28 2011 05:46 EnderCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.

No. Dimaga, Sheth, Morrow, Stephano, sen, and many others are far better than Idra right now.


I 100% agree, all those above are not just slightly better but far exceeded Idra, whereas they have gone from strenght to strenght, Idra has become worse

I really hope his return to Korea can shape him up again, either its a training problem or a mental problem.
★ Top Gun ★
Vihannes
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland26 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4860
On August 28 2011 05:51 humbre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:45 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 SiffStarcraft wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.



I'd put Ret over him... and Sheth is also a little better than him.


Also add sen and dimaga, I think

also nerchio and stephano

This is so funny that you compare online cup winners to idrA.And How many of those have any lan wins other than some local lan
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