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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4861
On August 28 2011 05:51 FrostDuty wrote:
I gotta admit, i play T, but i am getting really sick of bunker rushes. They are too strong in the right hands, put 1 step out of place and the Z is done. Its also just annoying because its not like Z can do any sort of rush like that.

I dont really enjoy TvZ any more just because of the constant T bunker crap.


So game 3 ends with Idra doing a mistake and losing to bunkers. Game 1 ends with Noblesse doing a mistake and getting fungalled. Both games "ended" with one step out of place. These things happen. It's not too strong it's just right. If everything was toothless there would be zero point in watching or playing this game.
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4862
On August 28 2011 05:44 PartyBiscuit wrote:
The game was over, an unwinnable situation, Idra typed gg. Everyone is as usual overreacting to nothing.


Maybe because people saw Sheth beat Select when he was in the same position as Idra was in?
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#4863
On August 28 2011 05:52 Designakrobat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:47 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
EG is having an extremely poor showing.....


They're not worried, least they can bench more than any other progaming team.


cracked me up a bit :p

I dunno, I bet oGs can bench more. No foreigners can stand before the might of NaDa's body.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
MarsAttack
Profile Joined March 2011
3 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4864
You wouldnt see any other zerg player leave game 2 that early, only Idra.. he should really see a mental coach.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4865
On August 28 2011 05:52 Shaxe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.

This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway?

Benching 200.


it was 205 actually.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4866
On August 28 2011 05:50 hitpoint wrote:
So much Idra hate. But he seemed to do everything right that game. Built spine crawler as soon as the hatch finished, made lings as soon as he could, pulled drones before the SCV's even got there.... How do you even stop that rush? Seeing people win like that sucks.

Maybe he's just getting a lot of flack because of game 2, but it seems unwarranted. That roach rush can just kill someone who makes a lot of hellions.


You can defend it without GG'ing after the first bunker finish.
Search MorroW vs Select on Shakuras from the Shoutcraft invitational 2. Morrow defended it, even, with all 3 bunker getting up.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4867
On August 28 2011 05:52 Allwars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:49 icarly wrote:
to be honest Nobeless played and looked much better than idra game 1. He carelessly lost mutas and was outmacro'd the entire game. 1 fungal won it for him.


I can understand you don't like IdrA but, please, don't make yourself a fool in front of 20k people reading you. How can you say Noblesse outmacroed IdrA when he had 60-70 scvs for 2 patches of mineral in the main and 3-4 mineral patches in the gold. A bit of common sense please.


was at the same supply with idra the entire game? his minerals and gas were in double digits while idra floated over a 1000 with his macro hatch not even hotkeyed?
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4868
On August 28 2011 05:53 Kamikazess wrote:
Haypro vs Bomber incoming. Blue Stream.


that's gonna be so sad....
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4869
On August 28 2011 05:51 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:49 Jinivus wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment off of that

Based on his play and results off the last 6 months. Not several games. His play is alright, mindset awful. Sen, nerchio, stephano all so much better atm. Also Idra has never won a tournament that isn't pure NA. he isn't the best foreign zerg not by a long shot.


So him beating Liquid Sheth (someone omst people consider pretty top, even better than Ret) in the finals of a major tournament a couple weeks ago means Sheth is also terrible or what?

Has Sen won IPL or MLG or anything similar? Nerchio? Stephano? I mean, they each individually have consistent small results, but people talk about GSL as the Holy Grail because of its size and talent pool, thus I think larger tournaments count for more.

Personally I think Sheth = IdrA in skill and both are pretty tip top of foreigners.

Idra won IPL and MLG with pure NA players. Now that there are EU and KR he can't compete. Sen always beats Idra head to head, he's a much better player.
_Mittens
Profile Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4870
I'm a platinum league Zerg player, and I am mild to moderately confident I could take a series off Idra. I mean, it MIGHT be 2-1, but I would still take the series.
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4871
On August 28 2011 05:49 klops wrote:
idra fanclub is pretty funny right now.



My source of daily entertainment :p
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4872
haypro vs. bomber next D:

nooooooooo
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4873
On August 28 2011 05:48 sage_francis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 arfyron wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:41 Caelixx wrote:
Nobelesse is seriously a coward for doing that, I'm sorry. I can't see anyone defending that.


I'm a huge Idra fan but there's nothing cowardly about doing that. It's a really common opening that Idra should have been able to deal with.


actually watch sheth vs select blizz invitational.

same map
same 3 bunkers
same marine push

sheth loses hatch

wins game


i wanted to mention that game but u did before me ^^ Idra sucks, thats it. Just look at Seth's way to handle that push, its an other level of play.

You mean another level where he almost never finishes as well as idra at MLG?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4874
On August 28 2011 05:51 FrostDuty wrote:
I gotta admit, i play T, but i am getting really sick of bunker rushes. They are too strong in the right hands, put 1 step out of place and the Z is done. Its also just annoying because its not like Z can do any sort of rush like that.

I dont really enjoy TvZ any more just because of the constant T bunker crap.



learn how to play against it.

get someone to bunker rush you 200 times straight.
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4875
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*

idra loses constantly to people nerchio/stephano/ret/dimaga beat, not to mention nerchio owned idra 3-0 practicaly outclassing him in every aspect of micro/macro
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4876
On August 28 2011 05:53 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:50 ken- wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
You guys know NesTea lost to 2rax just a few days ago right?


but it was on bel shir were mvp blocked his base entrance and nestea didn't scout, idra saw it miles ahead, was too greedy and defended terribly


The fuck?

He pulled 7 drones, how is that greedy

Zerg is not allowed to 15 hatch on cross shakuras now because it's geedy?

Was he supposed to fight into those 3 marines with the drones and lose them all?


Hatch first openings is a greedy build.

When half of the TL readers knew what was coming before game 3 started should have been a sign to open 14 pool.


Hatch first is not a greedy build. It's standard and keeps you even.

Yeah, what was greedy was the 16 pool.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4877
On August 28 2011 05:53 Swad1000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:47 Tantaburs wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
EG is having an extremely poor showing.....


Puma is tearing it up and HuK is 2-2 in the group of death probably about to be 3-2


Look at there actual lineup of players instead of the ones they just bought from other teams with dirty cash.

I'd put it differently, but what it shows is that people training within EG aren't doing well, the people who are "on" EG but without the EG training do well. It's the Liquid/OGS house and Korea, not that they have "EG" in front of their name.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4878
Haypro 2-0 Bomber inc
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4879
They really should get something done to kill these long gaps, even something as simple as pre-recorded interviews, having someone walk around backstage with a camera just checking out what the players are doing or a highlight reel from other mlgs during the season would be better than just watching people sitting there.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
August 27 2011 20:54 GMT
#4880
On August 28 2011 05:50 netsky4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:48 najreteip wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:45 netsky4 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.

Agreed. Results shouldn't be unnoticed...

Dimaga-Assembly
Nerchio-Infinity tournaments
Ret-Bnet EU
Sheth-Bnet NA runner up (2-0'd Idra)

You guys are right results shouldn't go unnoticed

Idra is the King of the Beta, you can't top that dude

jk



aaaah,, KotB,, that was an awesome tourney,, first one i ever watched,, the one that got me into sc2,,
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
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