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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
phillyd
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
August 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#4821
The thing that kills me about Idra is that he doesn't look like he gives a shit.

In football (soccer to some), there is a saying that "you don't shoot, you don't score", or that you need to "work the keeper". In essence, what that means is that you have to give every opportunity you can for your opponent to make a mistake. Idra believes that as soon as he is even slightly behind, his opponent will play perfectly and win. That just isn't the case. It's especially ridiculous because the concept of playing 'perfectly' in SC2 is a nonsense.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#4822
On August 28 2011 05:51 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better
Ouch, if IdrA hears that Morrow, in particular, is considered to be a better zerg player than him... um... he won't be very happy, to put it mildly.

But it's true lol
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
August 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#4823
On August 28 2011 05:49 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment off of that

Based on his play and results off the last 6 months. Not several games. His play is alright, mindset awful. Sen, nerchio, stephano all so much better atm. Also Idra has never won a tournament that isn't pure NA. he isn't the best foreign zerg not by a long shot.


So him beating Liquid Sheth (someone omst people consider pretty top, even better than Ret) in the finals of a major tournament a couple weeks ago means Sheth is also terrible or what?

Has Sen won IPL or MLG or anything similar? Nerchio? Stephano? I mean, they each individually have consistent small results, but people talk about GSL as the Holy Grail because of its size and talent pool, thus I think larger tournaments count for more.

Personally I think Sheth = IdrA in skill and both are pretty tip top of foreigners.
One Love
FrostDuty
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom45 Posts
August 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#4824
I gotta admit, i play T, but i am getting really sick of bunker rushes. They are too strong in the right hands, put 1 step out of place and the Z is done. Its also just annoying because its not like Z can do any sort of rush like that.

I dont really enjoy TvZ any more just because of the constant T bunker crap.
PirateEd
Profile Joined June 2011
United States61 Posts
August 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#4825
Here's my take on Idra on his current state of play against terran. He is extremely good at the early game and is able to hold off any forms of harass quite well with the bare minimum amount of units. However at he approaches the mid/late game, he picks bad spots to engage and loses his usually equivalent or better army composed of ling bling muta. I don't think he is mentally weak like many casters make him out to be, he just knows when hes lost a game. In the second game, after losing that attack, he was drastically behind and his chances of coming back were very very low. The third game he lost to a very good 2rax, something insanely hard to hold off.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:52:04
August 27 2011 20:51 GMT
#4826
On August 28 2011 05:50 windzor wrote:
Best gold membership commercial ever! God i laughed at that.,,

Buy Gold Membership = Get Laid

That's what I got out of the commercial.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4827
On August 28 2011 05:50 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:49 Treadmill wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment based off of that

whoa, TT1 standing up for IdrA. That seems surprising.

He did it yesterday too.


hes defending himself and not idra.
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4828
does EG even have a coach? Why don't these players actually work on their weaknesses instead of just playing games all day?
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4829
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*

Your comment proves they are
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4830
Seriously, why Ret vs Puma is not on stream ?! wtf mlg ?!
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
Shaxe
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands590 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4831
On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.

This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway?

Benching 200.
BoneDancr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States130 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4832
I want to root for Idra, then I swear at my monitor when I see him tilt
-end of line
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4833
On August 28 2011 05:51 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:47 NuclearJudas wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 Cyanocyst wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 SiffStarcraft wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.



I'd put Ret over him... and Sheth is also a little better than him.

Don't forget Sen.

There's also that awesome dude called Dimaga! :D

Is Dimaga still playing starcraft? I didn't see him play since he was in Korea, why do you think he is that good?

He won assembly just a few weeks ago
I have no quote!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4834
I just realized but did EG not send out their full lineup to this event? no lz, axslav, strifecro?
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4835
On August 28 2011 05:50 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:49 Treadmill wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment based off of that

whoa, TT1 standing up for IdrA. That seems surprising.

He did it yesterday too.

EG.TT1?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46246 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4836
On August 28 2011 05:45 StoLiVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:43 Pudge_172 wrote:
EG is having an extremely poor showing.....

Has always at mlg
Only Puma is doing well. Huk is ok but he can do better imo


Not *always*. IdrA recently got best non-Korean place (5th, iirc), he's done remarkably well in the past, and even iNcontroL did well before.

To be honest, I'm shocked that IdrA and Huk aren't playing so well this time around. I expected better results from those two. iNcontroL was gonna get rolled obviously (x.x @ his pool)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4837
On August 28 2011 05:46 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:44 jazzbassmatt wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


No. He is not


yes he is =], how many times have we gone throught this? dont base ur player assesments off of fucking small samples, look at their overall gameplay(from several games) then make ur judgment based off of that

But that is what people are doing.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:53:33
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4838
On August 28 2011 05:51 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:47 NuclearJudas wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:46 Cyanocyst wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:44 SiffStarcraft wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.



I'd put Ret over him... and Sheth is also a little better than him.

Don't forget Sen.

There's also that awesome dude called Dimaga! :D

Is Dimaga still playing starcraft? I didn't see him play since he was in Korea, why do you think he is that good?

He just recently won a major tournament for I think it was $8K.

Edit: It was Assembly Summer
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4839
On August 28 2011 05:49 icarly wrote:
to be honest Nobeless played and looked much better than idra game 1. He carelessly lost mutas and was outmacro'd the entire game. 1 fungal won it for him.


I can understand you don't like IdrA but, please, don't make yourself a fool in front of 20k people reading you. How can you say Noblesse outmacroed IdrA when he had 60-70 scvs for 2 patches of mineral in the main and 3-4 mineral patches in the gold. A bit of common sense please.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:53:33
August 27 2011 20:52 GMT
#4840
On August 28 2011 05:50 Ventor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:46 DeG3n wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:43 dog4 wrote:
Idra is still top foreign zerg in the world.


ret, sen, stephano, nerchio, dimaga and even perhaps morrow and darkforce are better


Europeans these days... Still think they are better than everyone else... *Facepalm*


This statement would've worked better if Sen wasn't included in that The one he missed was sheth and he should not have included the latter two.
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