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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45331 Posts
August 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#4921
On August 28 2011 05:54 _Mittens wrote:
I'm a platinum league Zerg player, and I am mild to moderately confident I could take a series off Idra. I mean, it MIGHT be 2-1, but I would still take the series.


6pool on Steppes? x3?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Truefire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States226 Posts
August 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#4922
Why are we getting Haypro vs Bomber over something close like Sheth vs Nada?
Rynzser
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania60 Posts
August 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#4923
haypro vs bomber on both streams ?
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:57:21
August 27 2011 20:56 GMT
#4924
Edit: I was whining.

Haypro Bomber will be a good match to watch, not the one i wanted tho
Micro your Macro
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4925
On August 28 2011 05:43 bluestuff wrote:
how do you even stop that three bunker, 2 rax push?

that early spine can't finish in time, and blocking off the bunkers being made with drones only, seems fairly costly...

Don't hatch first, fake hatch first into ling bane all in, play July style... lots of ways.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4926
Huk wins 2-0 over Trimaster in Pool A. #MLG
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4927
On August 28 2011 05:54 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.

This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway?


Yeah because practice time always means results? It doesn't, sometimes you play bad, sometimes you are jet lagged, sometimes your mindset is off. How does one set actually prove anything about a player overall. It doesn't.

Arizona house hasn't even been up long enough to start producing results...I can say the same thing for Naniwa, he hasn't been in Korea long enough for his play-style to balance out and for him to feel good in the position he is in.

Everyone in this thread has to step back and just realize that it isn't as simple as person A beats person B in a Bo3 so Person A is so much better and the other person is trash. Any given Sunday, (Saturday actually).

Only it isn't just this tourney, IdrA has consistently been outclassed by other foreign zergs in tourneys for the past several months.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4928
Who is the Protoss playing at the moment on the Red stream?
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4929
On August 28 2011 05:56 Puph wrote:
You know what? That won't work in the PTR. See who laughs when barracks takes 65 seconds! (Idra will) Pahahaha Gg


Then I guess Idra can be King of the PTR
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4930
On August 28 2011 05:54 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:50 Medrea wrote:
Idra going back to korea is probably good for him.

This is just getting silly and way out of hand. What are they doing inside that house anyway?


Yeah because practice time always means results? It doesn't, sometimes you play bad, sometimes you are jet lagged, sometimes your mindset is off. How does one set actually prove anything about a player overall. It doesn't.

Arizona house hasn't even been up long enough to start producing results...I can say the same thing for Naniwa, he hasn't been in Korea long enough for his play-style to balance out and for him to feel good in the position he is in.

Everyone in this thread has to step back and just realize that it isn't as simple as person A beats person B in a Bo3 so Person A is so much better and the other person is trash. Any given Sunday, (Saturday actually).


yeah...but not one can possibly deny that Idra's skills have deteriorated considerably since leaving Korea. He was strong as soon as he came back and has gotten worse and worse. Now, I don't think many people would have him in the top 10 of foreigners at this point.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4931
On August 28 2011 05:53 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:44 PartyBiscuit wrote:
The game was over, an unwinnable situation, Idra typed gg. Everyone is as usual overreacting to nothing.


Maybe because people saw Sheth beat Select when he was in the same position as Idra was in?

http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/08/15/sheth-2nd-at-na-invitational?p=1

Yep. There's the interview after Sheth played that series. Question 4 is the most telling. Sheth just has a great mindset for this game. He hadn't even played that style of rush but stayed in to win that game. Very admirable.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4932
On August 28 2011 05:55 Flanq wrote:
How come both streams have the same thing on them? Or is the Teevox stream playing 2 blue streams?


Standard MLG. On day 2 the casters need to take breaks so they alternate casting. Otherwise you would have 2 casters, and then no casters.
twitch.tv/medrea
cost2010
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 20:59:05
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4933
well, I guess I can kinda see some logic behind Idra's play in game 2:

If you want to play an all-in doing so while you are in the lead is probably a good idea - if you fail you still won't lose the series solely due to that cheese/all-in going wrong (which would be very frustrating and look stupid) and if you succeed you manage to close the series in a very efficient way.

After his push failed the 2nd game was probably lost for Idra - his gg timing is just a reflection of his expectation for Noblesse making some horrible mistake vs his fear of killing whatever was left of the momentum from his victory by getting too invested into a lost game.

still sucks for us spectators :/
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4934
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada




Nada, ro16 Code S.

Ret, won Eu Blizz Invitational.

code S > any eu tournament without koreans.
liftlift > tsm
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4935
On August 28 2011 05:57 MaderA wrote:
Who is the Protoss playing at the moment on the Red stream?


Hero it looks like i think.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4936
On August 28 2011 05:56 ssg wrote:
EG: 16-23 (lol incontrol)
TL: 15-22


yah, but TL's budget < EG's bank. for a company spending THAT MUCH MONEY on its players, EG should be doing so much better
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4937
On August 28 2011 05:56 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:54 Miraju wrote:
haypro 2-0 bomber EZ


Interesting Fact, Haypro actually took a game off Bomber the last time they played.

I remember that game, on XNC, it was entertaining
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4938
On August 28 2011 05:56 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:54 hrvoje07 wrote:
Just because u lose all the time to idra doesnt make him the best foreign zerg, TT1.
Its not one or two BO3 he lost, its months of losing to plenty of foreigners out there that made him lose this title


dude i didnt say best foreign zerg, learn to read i was arguing for him being ONE of the best foreign zergs

I'm sorry, i must have misread it then.
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4939
Ret lost 2-1 against Puma
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#4940
On August 28 2011 05:56 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 05:53 Numy wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:51 FrostDuty wrote:
I gotta admit, i play T, but i am getting really sick of bunker rushes. They are too strong in the right hands, put 1 step out of place and the Z is done. Its also just annoying because its not like Z can do any sort of rush like that.

I dont really enjoy TvZ any more just because of the constant T bunker crap.


So game 3 ends with Idra doing a mistake and losing to bunkers. Game 1 ends with Noblesse doing a mistake and getting fungalled. Both games "ended" with one step out of place. These things happen. It's not too strong it's just right. If everything was toothless there would be zero point in watching or playing this game.


No people just don't see a point in watching a game that ends in 3 minutes. Making a mistake 40 minutes into the game and one 4 minutes into it are totally different.


So no rush 20?
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