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On August 27 2011 13:08 FighterHayabusa wrote:
Mutas are really terrible, and they shouldn't be that bad for their cost. To those saying that he engaged badly...he didn't have anything left, and he had plenty of banes, but about 15 of them died at once to one siege tank shot. Marines just do way too much DPS for the cost.
They're not supposed to be cost efficient in fights because their mobility is so abusive. The thing is Idra was banking on 3K minerals while having a unit composition that obviously cannot win a fight head on.
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On August 27 2011 13:08 Emporio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 13:06 dcsoda wrote:
I'm not going to pretend to know so I'll ask would a few roaches have helped with all these marines? Wouldn't it be a pretty easy tech switch especially with so many bases? He had so many resources stacked he could have built the warren pretty easily. What a weird set of games. Roaches are really bad against marines in larger numbers.
But it didn't seem like he attacked with all that many and those combined with the mutas could have helped? Although this certainly wasn't the only mistake Idra made. Really didn't punish a good number of Sjow's mistakes especially with the complete lack of missile turrets.
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Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A.
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I am such a big idrafan. But damn he is making it too hard. What happened to the old IdrA that set up surrounds to crush terran pushes from every angle (he even did that back at the first IEM), what happened to the old idra that never missed injects, what happened to the old idra that didnt lead attacks with his mutas and grouped up his units before attacking.
Sad to see him fall so far 
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Idra plays so presumptuous and his decision making was not impressive at all in that series. There was so many openings for him to poke with his mutas with the delayed turret timings from Sjow. There was no reason to leave the 3rd up in that second game either. . . His infestors were so delayed and his lack of banes is really surprising.
As an Idra fan I was pretty disappointed in this series, especially with them getting some time in the EG house before this MLG
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Idra has been showing for the past month or so that he has no patience once again. He won't go anywhere on Sunday
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On August 27 2011 13:09 Maghetti wrote:
WTF was that!!! Idra refusing to make banes and lings. HORRIBLE UNIT COMP. Even at the very end he was making mutas. Watch the recent zvts in korea, when the muta timings happen terrans would push and the zerg would make mostly banes instead to hold the push. Idra gets pushed by similarish timings and he makes....mass muta. Worst decision making ever. Who is he playing against that this style works? I have been a idra fan for a long time but that was just bad play. That wasn't tilting or anything, just fucking awful decision making. MAKE BANES!!
The only thing that explains it, is that he was experimenting with something that he has been practicing in the EG house. The only way to try something new is to try it on the battlefield. He might have just been trying new things, I don't know. I am so confused.
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I've never seen games been thrown away quite like that. Was painfull too watch.
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On August 27 2011 13:10 RayN wrote:
it's like training in the EG 'lair' has made him worse =/
"Training" on the NA server has made him worse. EG pulling him out of Korea was a mistake. No wonder they are sending him back, but only after they get Puma and Huk.
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On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote:
Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A.
i agree with the first part. sjow shouldn't have beaten idra. by your logic, because idra lost to a scumbag, idra sucks even more.
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On August 27 2011 13:10 WhiteraCares wrote:
Meh, Idra is all marketing - that's why people like him. Not because of his skills.
More like he's not only EG.Machine but also a literal machine. If you face him you can literally program him to play one way and he will not deviate. It's like playing tennis against a serving machine, he's good at one thing but you're guaranteed to win half the points.
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On August 27 2011 13:11 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2011 13:10 QTIP. wrote:On August 27 2011 12:58 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
sjow just so outclassed Lol! Comedy gold. Not reallly. Sjow is outclassed. any other grand master zerg probably would've won that game for idra.
Then he wasnt ouclassed by idra, do you read what you type?
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I always thought Idra was very good. I'm so dissapointed right now.
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I think it's a pretty accurate statement that Idra's worst enemy is himself. Loses one advantage and quits. It's possible he could've recreated all his tech elsewhere and took the game back. So many minerals banked, not researching overlord speed if I recall correctly.
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On August 27 2011 13:09 cca1ss1e wrote:great job husky and day9, great games, thnx for free stream mlg. 
^What he said, great job.
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On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote:
Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A.
He did dominate the map, with one of the most mobile units in the game that cannot win headon fights vs upgraded versions of its HARD COUNTER
Are you an idiot?
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Look I dislike IdrA but stimmed marines are fucking ridiculous sometimes.
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On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote:
Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A.
Better trolling please, way too obvious.
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