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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads: The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans: 1. Whining about stream 2. Bashing other games 3. Flaming other users 4. Bashing players 5. Complaining about imbalance. It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully. That being said, enjoy today's games! Time stamp: page 12, 6:54. | ||
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Bodhi
United States180 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:09 akalarry wrote: not sure if serious. any top zerg wouldve had an extra 70 zerglings and 35 banelings at that point, and would've absolutely ROLLED sjow One infestor, which Idra had the tech and resources for, could have cleaned up sjow sent. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. No, that is not how the game works. So what are gonna say for your 9th post? I mean he left the game. He lost to his own GG. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:12 hysterial wrote: Then he wasnt ouclassed by idra, do you read what you type? Outclassed until the last two minutes where he forgot how to play against Terran | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. By playing masterfully, you mean massing 1 unit and not even abusing it to its fullest potential? | ||
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AcuWill
United States281 Posts
Early gg. | ||
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bloodmeat
United States160 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:10 WhiteraCares wrote: Meh, Idra is all marketing - that's why people like him. Not because of his skills. I liked Idra because he was incredible at this game. He was looking so good and I had so much faith in him to be a powerful foreigner against the Koreans. Lately though... it has been a different story... People were his fans because of his skills at one point. Now... (as sad as it is to say) it's getting hard to continue being as big of a fan as I once was. | ||
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hysterial
United States2044 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:13 Emporio wrote: Outclassed until the last two minutes where he forgot how to play against Terran I agree. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. Way to keep it classy. But really, what's masterful about throwing mutas at a mass of marines and then dropping before your 10 infestors pop? | ||
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dcsoda
United States583 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. I mean it is disappointing sure but this comment is just wrong. Idra not punishing the lack of turrets early, got behind on injects, floated a lot of resources, and didn't have a good composition for the engagement. Idra had a chance to win this but made a few too many errors, I expect him to improve tomorrow. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. Oh get over your weak IdrA fanboyism, even Day9 noted a bunch of things that could have helped IdrA win that game and he was in a position where he could have won it. If you think a flock of the 3.75 movement speed flying unit at half health should be able to take out a mass of marines then you're delusional. | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:12 hysterial wrote: Then he wasnt ouclassed by idra, do you read what you type? Again, I don't think sjow's better than idra. Maybe outclassed isn't the right word. But what I'm trying to say is that idra dominated most of the game and was just toying around with sjow. Idra had that game. His muta harass was great and his ling/bling/muta engagements were good at allowing idra to tech and get that great unit comp. however, idra just didn't follow that through. cruncher beat idra too. but idra is definitely better than cruncer. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:10 Alzadar wrote: Uncharacteristically bad macro from Idra, 120+ energy on most of his Queens and 0 larva to be seen... Actually, that's something very important that people forget. Idra had a lot less zergling / baneling than usual because his injects were pretty bad. | ||
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:12 Ownos wrote: "Training" on the NA server has made him worse. EG pulling him out of Korea was a mistake. No wonder they are sending him back, but only after they get Puma and Huk. You're probably right, but it's fair to say Idra's attitude towards this game is the root of his problem. He doesn't like playing games out and he'll never win a competitive tournament if he doesn't get rid of his defeatist attitude. | ||
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FighterHayabusa
United States90 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:10 Slakter wrote: First of all you´re talking imba in a LR-thread which is against the rules. Secondly, you´re wrong. You cant judge how good mutas are by looking at straight up fights just like you cant judge reapers based on straight fights. No, I'm talking about utility for cost, and it isn't there with any zerg unit except the Infestor and Brood lord. Everything else is basically a glass cannon or worse. Some do decent damage, but have pitiful health. The best unit in this game is the marine as far as utility for the investment. With stim they are absurd, and eclipse every unit in the game. | ||
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doffe
Sweden636 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. Your the delusional one obviously, if mutas was to be a counter to marines it would be more or less impossible to loose as zerg (im a zerg). Mutas are not supposed to be cost effective against anything on the ground that can shoot up, they are a harassunit and are extremly powerful in keeping people in their bases. Mutas NEED alot of support. There definitly comes a time where you stop making mutas and just reinforce that groundarmy to absolutely ROLL the terrans ground. There is absolutely no imbalance regarding mutas and marines. Marines do a buttload of damage yes, they also die like flies to banes and infestors. | ||
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feek
19 Posts
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WhiteraCares
Sweden339 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:11 Obscenity wrote: Anyone who thinks 50 mineral units should do that much damage is delusional. Idra played those games masterfully from start to finish, dominated the map, and lost to some scumbag who could build barracks and hit A. Scrumbag? Doesn't that further prove the fact that Idra just isn't that good these days. I've seen low masters players handle similar situations much much better. Like I said before; Idra is all marketing but hes not a top tier player anymore. Move on. | ||
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:13 bloodmeat wrote: I liked Idra because he was incredible at this game. He was looking so good and I had so much faith in him to be a powerful foreigner against the Koreans. Lately though... it has been a different story... People were his fans because of his skills at one point. Now... (as sad as it is to say) it's getting hard to continue being as big of a fan as I once was. Very true. Back in the day he was one of the few foreigner Zergs posting good results. He was held out as a light against the darkness of the Terran, Protoss, and Korean hordes. He was consistently posting results in GSL, winning masterful games against foreign players, and just being an all-around baller. Now he just comes in, gets hyped, loses one game to some joke of a strategy and then loses to tilt | ||
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buldermar
Denmark102 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:10 Slakter wrote: First of all you´re talking imba in a LR-thread which is against the rules. Secondly, you´re wrong. You cant judge how good mutas are by looking at straight up fights just like you cant judge reapers based on straight fights. First of all you´re talking imba in a LR-thread which is against the rules. Secondly, you're wrong. You can judge how good mutas are by looking at straight up fights just like you can judge reapers based on straight fights - you just have to also take into account their movement speed and movement ability (move up cliffs, fly) Now quote me so we can continue the trend of breaking rules we just referred to. | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On August 27 2011 13:18 WhiteraCares wrote: Scrumbag? Doesn't that further prove the fact that Idra just isn't that good these days. I've seen low masters players handle similar situations much much better. Like I said before; Idra is all marketing but hes not a top tier player anymore. Move on. True. Idra isn't that great. And to be honest, I don't think his training with korea will help that much. But I still think he's better than Sjow... | ||
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