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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 12 2011 19:36 GMT
#721
Ridiculous behavior by Idra.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
August 12 2011 19:43 GMT
#722
On August 12 2011 20:03 PsychonautQQ wrote:
i think it's okay because starcraft isn't a sport,, in my opinion


F--- you! :>
FighterHayabusa
Profile Joined December 2010
United States90 Posts
August 12 2011 20:05 GMT
#723
On August 12 2011 18:11 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 18:04 Corwintt wrote:
I really can't understand people still defending Idra. He is actually really hurting esports. There is no other sport where a players can badmouth other player in front of everybody and go with it. If esports want to be taken seriously such thinks should be punished immediately.
About that it is not his fault - this is just who he is - it doesn't matter. Being professional means you have responsibilities and you need to have some basic manners and stuff - if Idra doesn't have them - bad for him - he is not fit to be a pro.
And one more thing - this is NOT simple trash talk - this is direct insult to a player in front of thousands watching, it should be punished immediately.


I don't get it either. I don't want to get into the pro-idra, contra-idra fanboy vs haters battle, but WHERE in which sport you can think of is it ok to directly insult your opponent?

Is it ok in Tennis? in Basketball? Football/Soccer? Baseball?
Please tell me, what is it with esports that people think insulting your opponent doesn't deserve punishment if it happens in tournaments.

Or to put it in a more provocative fashion: do you think GSL would allow such behaviour?

Uh, it happens in every other sport. If you haven't seen this then you just haven't played on a team before.

I've heard all sorts of shit on the field, and experienced many dirty plays. Saying fuck you over the internet is nothing. Certainly not something to get this upset about.
You must have to have it
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
August 12 2011 20:09 GMT
#724
On August 13 2011 05:05 FighterHayabusa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 18:11 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:04 Corwintt wrote:
I really can't understand people still defending Idra. He is actually really hurting esports. There is no other sport where a players can badmouth other player in front of everybody and go with it. If esports want to be taken seriously such thinks should be punished immediately.
About that it is not his fault - this is just who he is - it doesn't matter. Being professional means you have responsibilities and you need to have some basic manners and stuff - if Idra doesn't have them - bad for him - he is not fit to be a pro.
And one more thing - this is NOT simple trash talk - this is direct insult to a player in front of thousands watching, it should be punished immediately.


I don't get it either. I don't want to get into the pro-idra, contra-idra fanboy vs haters battle, but WHERE in which sport you can think of is it ok to directly insult your opponent?

Is it ok in Tennis? in Basketball? Football/Soccer? Baseball?
Please tell me, what is it with esports that people think insulting your opponent doesn't deserve punishment if it happens in tournaments.

Or to put it in a more provocative fashion: do you think GSL would allow such behaviour?

Uh, it happens in every other sport. If you haven't seen this then you just haven't played on a team before.

I've heard all sorts of shit on the field, and experienced many dirty plays. Saying fuck you over the internet is nothing. Certainly not something to get this upset about.


Again though, that's on the field. Similar would be idra BMing mana in the prematch lobby, which nobody gets to see. Him BMing at the end of a match just showcases it and showcased insults (especially DURING the match) isn't tolerated in any sport I know of, save maybe 'wrestling'
drama class.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
August 12 2011 20:13 GMT
#725
He played absolutely atrociously, his micro was terrible.
Yet he still almost won, and has the nerve to blame the game / insult his opponent.
Sometimes he's really out of touch with reality.
wat
FighterHayabusa
Profile Joined December 2010
United States90 Posts
August 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#726
On August 13 2011 05:09 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 05:05 FighterHayabusa wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:11 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:04 Corwintt wrote:
I really can't understand people still defending Idra. He is actually really hurting esports. There is no other sport where a players can badmouth other player in front of everybody and go with it. If esports want to be taken seriously such thinks should be punished immediately.
About that it is not his fault - this is just who he is - it doesn't matter. Being professional means you have responsibilities and you need to have some basic manners and stuff - if Idra doesn't have them - bad for him - he is not fit to be a pro.
And one more thing - this is NOT simple trash talk - this is direct insult to a player in front of thousands watching, it should be punished immediately.


I don't get it either. I don't want to get into the pro-idra, contra-idra fanboy vs haters battle, but WHERE in which sport you can think of is it ok to directly insult your opponent?

Is it ok in Tennis? in Basketball? Football/Soccer? Baseball?
Please tell me, what is it with esports that people think insulting your opponent doesn't deserve punishment if it happens in tournaments.

Or to put it in a more provocative fashion: do you think GSL would allow such behaviour?

Uh, it happens in every other sport. If you haven't seen this then you just haven't played on a team before.

I've heard all sorts of shit on the field, and experienced many dirty plays. Saying fuck you over the internet is nothing. Certainly not something to get this upset about.


Again though, that's on the field. Similar would be idra BMing mana in the prematch lobby, which nobody gets to see. Him BMing at the end of a match just showcases it and showcased insults (especially DURING the match) isn't tolerated in any sport I know of, save maybe 'wrestling'
drama class.

It is tolerated...I know because I've played for a long time. I've seen people tell refs to fuck off before. As to your point, if you watch any basketball at all you can actually see them say stuff like this. It is just a word.

You must have to have it
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 20:17:04
August 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#727
Idra continuing to be a mentally weak player who blames the game before he blames himself.

Because Protoss are just crushing zerg all over the world right? (even when this was played)

Pathetic.
vullem
Profile Joined September 2010
Bulgaria16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 20:21:24
August 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#728

Dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some considered to be unnatural.
FighterHayabusa
Profile Joined December 2010
United States90 Posts
August 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#729
On August 13 2011 05:16 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra continuing to be a mentally weak player who blames the game before he blames himself.

Because Protoss are just crushing zerg all over the world right? (even when this was played)

Pathetic.

Not on old maps that allow Toss to take 3 easy bases
You must have to have it
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
August 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#730
On August 12 2011 20:08 Corwintt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 18:28 Angelbelow wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:19 JKira wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:16 Angelbelow wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:13 Maenander wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:08 Cathasaigh wrote:
On August 12 2011 18:04 Corwintt wrote:
I really can't understand people still defending Idra. He is actually really hurting esports. There is no other sport where a players can badmouth other player in front of everybody and go with it. If esports want to be taken seriously such thinks should be punished immediately.
About that it is not his fault - this is just who he is - it doesn't matter. Being professional means you have responsibilities and you need to have some basic manners and stuff - if Idra doesn't have them - bad for him - he is not fit to be a pro.
And one more thing - this is NOT simple trash talk - this is direct insult to a player in front of thousands watching, it should be punished immediately.

There are plenty of sports where players badmouth other players and referees during games and in interviews and have far more people watching than the thousands who watch IPL.

There are plenty of sports were you get fined for badmouthing during a game.


there arent many sports that fines you for trash talk between players. Only when it may lead to a violent altercation do players get "techincals" but not fines.

I think youre thinking about a physical altercation, then yea, both players get fined and suspended.


I wouldn't really call what IdrA did trash talking...


Well I just want to say that I am not trying to defend IdrA. As a fan of his i wish he took a different approach to game ending situations.

But you call a spade a spade. Saying "fuck you" to someone is trashtalk/bad mouthing. The sport I'm most familiar with is basketball (im avid fanatic =p), and in basketball, some players get away with saying "fuck you" to referees not to mention each other. So I guess my basketball background has me used to stuff like this.


Basketball/football players are make insults on the field, where there is no evidence and you only the person insulted can hear it. Compare it to that to be insulted in front of thousands watching.
It is more like a basketball player say "Fuck you all" on the pressconference after the match, where everything is documented and do it in front of everybody. Will he be punished then?


Not sure if serious. Ive seen players directly talk shit to fans themselves. Youre kidding yourself if you dont think NBA/footballs players dont talk shit to each other in front of 10,000 PLUS people who are actually attending the game. Not to mention the fact that we can see them mouthing it on TV. I've seen Kobe Bryant say "suck my balls" while making hand a gesture indicating that he has big balls.

Again, I'm not trying to defend IdrA here, infact I wish he would have just left without saying anything at all. But trash talking in basketball is a whole other animal.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
August 12 2011 20:33 GMT
#731
Just wanted to let everyone know that the live report thread for today's games is up right now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254086

And for today only, Day[9] will be joining the IPL 2 casting team! Don't miss it. =D
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
August 12 2011 21:00 GMT
#732
Idra is playing Nerchio now in the LB? Man thats it for Idra Im afraid, Nerchios ZvZ is sooo stellar
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
August 12 2011 21:31 GMT
#733
Why is there a Vibe vs VileState game being streamed, I don't see it anywhere in the schedule./
synkronized
Profile Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
August 12 2011 22:15 GMT
#734
Day9? That's awesome. Now which match will it be?
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
August 12 2011 22:38 GMT
#735
I love how idra goes "what a fucking joke" when he a-moves roaches into stalker/colossus.

Btw, why does EG let idra act like a jackass? Oh wait I know why, he's their only good player rofl.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 12 2011 22:58 GMT
#736
On August 13 2011 03:22 Vadrigar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 01:47 heatly wrote:
On August 13 2011 01:28 Athos wrote:
I don't understand why the community continues to tolerate Idra when he is so outright disrespectful. He should be fined, or punished in some way for such outlandish conduct which hurts the professionalism of ESPORTS.


I would have to agree I was a fan but, not any more he really is just a cry baby when zvp is in favor of zerg right now and he continues to blame his bad play and poor decision making on an OP race. And really mana, come on idra have a tiny bit of class and humility and just leave. Cussing out a 17 year old who just played better then you is just unreal.


and he's getting Nerchio in the loser's bracket. Another chance to get owned by a 17 year old and curse him. Go idra! :D

there will be no ggs that series
krneki
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 23:06:38
August 12 2011 23:06 GMT
#737
cant wait to see idra get raped again at IEM cologne. man that kid is spoiled.

i kind of understand MC's show-off, but lets face it, he is no.1 toss in the world, 2time GSL champ. and its even funny when he does it.

but idra. what's he got to show for himself? he can only win tournaments without any big korean players...or even EU for that matter. and if he doesnt win, its back to "f*** you". imagine this guy had like nestea's skill. omg, god save us all!

i just hope kas and beasty shove it up his ass in cologne. but they won't cuz they are actually well mannered guys.
flooky
Profile Joined August 2011
44 Posts
August 12 2011 23:18 GMT
#738
idra plays zerg though so everything he has said is justifiable
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 23:40:45
August 12 2011 23:39 GMT
#739
i normaly not hate him but for this idra deserves a ban


On August 13 2011 08:18 flooky wrote:
idra plays zerg though so everything he has said is justifiable



this words make him think z rly weak but in fact zerg is incredible strong and in korea rapes protoss nowadays as well as ret dimaga sen etc all find a style just idra stay oldschool and now after cry he start flame and thats NOT acceptable in such leagues
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
krneki
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway237 Posts
August 13 2011 00:07 GMT
#740
every world class zerg owns protoss. gsl anyone? or dimaga owning mana 2-3 weeks ago? or ret owning everyone on eu invitational? not to mention he roflstomped naniwa 4-1. NANIWA

"zerg is not supposed to beat protoss" exists only in idra's spoiled head.
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