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On August 07 2011 04:33 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:32 Nastiness wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 Sabu113 wrote:On August 07 2011 04:30 Denzil wrote:On August 07 2011 04:28 Exarl25 wrote:On August 07 2011 04:26 Fig wrote:
finally a zerg uses burrow micro, gonna be so scary when they start doing it one by one like blink Except that unlike Blink it can be completely neutralised by the presence of detection. Opportunities to use burrow micro to it's fullest are few and far between. Ret didn't use burrow micro in the sense you want to think he did. He just used it to wait for force fields. The problem with Burrow is that when you burrow you can take damage during the animation. With Blink you take 0 damage during the animation. Burrow will never be Blink. To be fair Roaches are dirt cheap. Mmm speed/burrow upgrade included? That doesn't make any difference if they're dirt cheap. They take damage during the animation, Stalkers don't. It renders the burrow micro we'd like to have pretty useless unless they just don't have detection.
I was more mentioning general balance features. Stalkers allow for a higher dps for a longer period of time. Personally I think that Burrowed roaches are barely tickled by storm is a good argument for how strong an uprade it is. Zergs are starting to micro their units these days. I am waiting for the high apm zerg to burrow a row a roaches while moving another group even closer. ofc that's still not like blink because you lose dps in a short period to make up for a longer period of dps which is of mixed utility.
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On August 07 2011 04:37 Moralez wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 danteafk wrote:On August 07 2011 04:35 Nerdslayer wrote:
Well I feel sorry for Naniwa he gonna meet Nerchio now and I feel Nerchio is a much better zerg then Ret so I think Naniwa gonna lose to nerchio also no. Yeah just no. Nerchio is good but hes still young. For now ret is the best EU zerg.
Ret is prolly top 5 zerg in the world in this form, behind NesTea/Losira/DRG and I personally think he's better than idra, coca is pretty good also.
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On August 07 2011 04:37 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:33 zeru wrote:On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?
because why not? Are you serious? No seriously, why not interviewing the loser? Losing is part of the "job", and its interesting to hear what they have to say. I love these loser interview, maybe get a glimp on what they think themself went wrong.
Well if they want to avoid awkard answers/rage/insults, but if not then keep on trucking!
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On August 07 2011 04:37 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 Enox wrote:
omg, still no WoW.. the forums will explode They sure could use some eagles right about now...
Haha! This!
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Where dem WoW's at? I feel pretty bad for the people who have actually been waiting all day for it.
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On August 07 2011 04:36 N1k0 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:35 Nerdslayer wrote:
Well I feel sorry for Naniwa he gonna meet Nerchio now and I feel Nerchio is a much better zerg then Ret so I think Naniwa gonna lose to nerchio also lol wat? since when is nerchio better than ret?
Well if you followed the EU scane for the last 2 months you would understand the only thing that worries me is its Nerchio first lan so he is proberly very nervous. However if he play optimal I dont think Naniwa can beat him
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On August 07 2011 04:37 grobo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 07 2011 04:35 grobo wrote:On August 07 2011 04:34 FairForever wrote:On August 07 2011 04:32 grobo wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 Ygz wrote:
Nani got outplayed on g3. While I agree it's a shit map, don't bring up that excuse for losing. He donated ~10 sentries, he fucked himself, he wasn't outplayed the slightest. So isn't that the definition of getting outplayed? Ret played better than Naniwa, therefore Ret outplayed him... Can't you read? He completely gave away ~10 sentries, that's not getting outplayed, that's him screwing himself over. If i kill my own hatch at the beginning of the game, that's not getting outplayed. Killing your own hatch can be a misclick Losing 8 sentries because you are too slow to force field is naniwa playing really badly. Which is why it's nani fucking himself over, not getting outplayed.
Sorry, but losing units because of reaction time is part of standard gameplay process and part of one player outplaying the other on attention and multitasking, THE most important things in a game of Starcraft.
You can spin basically any game as if the loser lost it more than the winner won it, but what's the point? -_-
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On August 07 2011 04:37 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 udgnim wrote:On August 07 2011 04:35 Zzoram wrote:On August 07 2011 04:32 FairForever wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 CScythe wrote:
Naniwa even complained about close pos being the main problem for him in game 3. And you guys are saying "it's balanced now"...seriously? Not balanced, but this is Blizz's tourney. Naniwa knew coming in that close pos was a possibility. If he didn't like it he doesn't have to play (eg. NASL). Are close positions on maps why Naniwa withdrew from NASL2? Naniwa withdrew from NASL because of the times NASL needed him to play matches at due to NASL's desire to live broadcast matches This. Different reason, but the point is Naniwa has the option to decline the Bnet invitational. He knew the rules coming in, he shouldn't complain about them so much if he accepted the invite, especially at the tournament where he's participating.
He is entitled to express his opinion though, feels like a reasonable thing to do when every other major tournament has disabled close spawns doesn't it?
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Naniwa without the loser rage isn't really Naniwa.
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From RotterdaM08 twitter:
Aight Socke vs Tarson coming up hahaha,
one thing is for sure, Im never gonna show
my face at any WoW Convention....
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On August 07 2011 04:37 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 Enox wrote:
omg, still no WoW.. the forums will explode They sure could use some eagles right about now...
haha
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Naniwa didn't really make up excuses... He admitted he lost because his opponent played better. He also mentioned what he thought of the map choice, but he didn't say that was the only reason he lost.
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What sport have you guys been watching? They always interview the losers. But most professional athletes have been media trained. So they give their generic answers and its super boring.
Much more fun with angry losers thaty say whats on their mind 
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On August 07 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 Lann555 wrote:On August 07 2011 04:34 TheHova wrote:On August 07 2011 04:33 sixfour wrote:On August 07 2011 04:33 TheHova wrote:On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?
because why not? Because there's a reason why this doesn't happen in other sports/events? It happens all the time? No it doesn't. It's ultra standard in soccer to interview the losing coach and some random players. Of course it might not be 5 minuts after the match. Don't get the big deal about it. It's interesting for the viewers to hear the thoughts of the players and ultimately viewers pay the bill for progamers, so just suck it up and do an interview  It should be standard. If my player loses I WANT to hear his thoughts. I WANT to know what he felt he did wrong and any closing words on the game. I have to account the player may not feel good but it's the least he can do for his fans.
He doesn't HAVE to do it for his fans. People feel so entitled these days.
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On August 07 2011 04:38 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:37 Moralez wrote:On August 07 2011 04:36 danteafk wrote:On August 07 2011 04:35 Nerdslayer wrote:
Well I feel sorry for Naniwa he gonna meet Nerchio now and I feel Nerchio is a much better zerg then Ret so I think Naniwa gonna lose to nerchio also no. Yeah just no. Nerchio is good but hes still young. For now ret is the best EU zerg. Ret is prolly top 5 zerg in the world in this form, behind NesTea/Losira/DRG and I personally think he's better than idra, coca is pretty good also.
Was it on State of the Game where it was mentioned that Ret has only lost to Korean terrans the past few months?
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On August 07 2011 04:37 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:36 Lann555 wrote:On August 07 2011 04:34 TheHova wrote:On August 07 2011 04:33 sixfour wrote:On August 07 2011 04:33 TheHova wrote:On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?
because why not? Because there's a reason why this doesn't happen in other sports/events? It happens all the time? No it doesn't. It's ultra standard in soccer to interview the losing coach and some random players. Of course it might not be 5 minuts after the match. Don't get the big deal about it. It's interesting for the viewers to hear the thoughts of the players and ultimately viewers pay the bill for progamers, so just suck it up and do an interview It should be standard. If my player loses I WANT to hear his thoughts. I WANT to know what he felt he did wrong and any closing words on the game. I have to account the player may not feel good but it's the least he can do for his fans.
The least the fans can do is respect the players desire for some alone time to reflect.
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On August 07 2011 04:38 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 04:35 FliedLice wrote:On August 07 2011 04:34 TheHova wrote:On August 07 2011 04:33 sixfour wrote:On August 07 2011 04:33 TheHova wrote:On August 07 2011 04:32 FliedLice wrote:On August 07 2011 04:31 Benito wrote:
why are they interviewing the loser?
because why not? Because there's a reason why this doesn't happen in other sports/events? It happens all the time? No it doesn't. do you actually watch other sports? Yes, and play them. If you've competed in anything serious your entire life you would know that a lot of people don't want to be interviewed straight after a defeat. Adrenaline is still going through you, you've put a lot of emotion and effort into to the game you've just lost. You're not really thinking straight or composed. Seriously, pro gamers within in the community have commented on this many times. And always say they'd want at least a few minutes to calm down and compose themselves.
You should also realize the difference between a team sport and a singles sport in this.
When playing something solo, you have no one to blame but yourself, and it's just overall much more stressful than a team sport.
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I'm actually enjoying the music.... but find it funny if it was playing at the venue in a room full of dudes.....
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