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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#761
Ofcourse you can stop it with a bio army. You need to EMP the sentries so they can only use 1 guardian shield. Also put your scvs on hold position or have buildings to block. Marine Marauder + Medivacs with EMP and equal upgrades absolutely shred a no area of effect Protoss army.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#762
What a horrible set of games. I should have went to bed 2 hours ago.

Every single game was just awful 2 unit massing
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#763
On August 03 2011 11:13 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 11:11 MrCon wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:09 Fatalize wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:08 Zath.erin wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:05 integrity wrote:
i think it is funny that mass phoenix beats mass hydra.


hydra are so bad even against the units they are suppose to counter


I don't think Hydra are meant to counter a unit that does extra damage vs light. You would have to be kind of dense to think that. In mass numbers you need something that is armored and hits air or else AoE.



- Mutas are awful against archons / pheonix

- Corruptors are awful against anything


So what do you do ? Mass fungal ? just snipe infestors and you're fine.

Corruptors are awful against everything bu phoenix, and the point is how to counter phoenixes. Corruptors also allow guardians which rape the ground army that kiwi had.



Corruptors take supply for nothing. You get rid of the phoenix but you have 40 supply of useless corruptors. Exact same problem as the protoss collossus deathball basically.

Corruptor is the worst unit of the game, even blizzard game designer said that it's bad.

They're a bad unit but we are talking about that specific game They would have killed all the phoenix which is good. Then he can morph some or at least have a ground army that can fight the zealot ball while kiwi transition to blink stalkers.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#764
Kiwi is the best ace player in NA imo lol. He always win as ace against EG when he was in ROOT
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#765
On August 03 2011 11:16 Megatronn wrote:
Did anyone actually think Demuslim could beat Kiwikaki ?_?


Did you watch his games against MC at HSC3?
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Liudo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#766
Lol ... first few pages "EG is going to take this so easy"
"incomming IdrA all kill"
"Reign has no chance"

IdrA plays badly
Axslav plays badly
Machine plays badly
Strifeco plays badly
DeMuslim plays ok and loses anyway

Reign takes it easily
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
August 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#767
On August 03 2011 11:15 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 11:15 Crazypyro1 wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:13 bennyaus wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:11 MrCon wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:09 Fatalize wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:08 Zath.erin wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:05 integrity wrote:
i think it is funny that mass phoenix beats mass hydra.


hydra are so bad even against the units they are suppose to counter


I don't think Hydra are meant to counter a unit that does extra damage vs light. You would have to be kind of dense to think that. In mass numbers you need something that is armored and hits air or else AoE.



- Mutas are awful against archons / pheonix

- Corruptors are awful against anything


So what do you do ? Mass fungal ? just snipe infestors and you're fine.

Corruptors are awful against everything bu phoenix, and the point is how to counter phoenixes. Corruptors also allow guardians which rape the ground army that kiwi had.


Corrupters are awful against everything? What game do you play. They are amazing vs Phoenix/Carriers (in small numbers)/Vikings/Battlecruisers.

This reminds me of an earlier SOTG where Painuser was saying how good Zealots were and Inc/Tyler argued against him saying they're worthless. Lo and behold, Chargelots are like the central unit of the PvT metagame right now. People need to try these things before saying they're worthless.


He meant corrupters are awful against everything else in the PvZ matchup. No one uses carriers and as soon as the phoenixes die, you realize you have 40 food sitting around in the air while you get raped by archon/zealot.


You realise that you have killed 40 food of his army though? and that 40 food can turn into Broodlords which hard counter Zealot/Archon.

Except because of the huge amount of Corruptors you have to make, you can't hold his ground force with whatever ground force you have. You think he's gonna sit there and wait for you to get hive tech and greater spire and morph into broods just because you killed his phoenixes?

Rofl.
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NOobToss
Profile Joined October 2010
United States92 Posts
August 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#768
DTs were the icing on the cake. losing your nat + DTs snacking on your production facilities. DAYMNUH.
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
August 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#769
On August 03 2011 11:09 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 11:08 Zath.erin wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:05 integrity wrote:
i think it is funny that mass phoenix beats mass hydra.


hydra are so bad even against the units they are suppose to counter


I don't think Hydra are meant to counter a unit that does extra damage vs light. You would have to be kind of dense to think that. In mass numbers you need something that is armored and hits air or else AoE.



- Mutas are awful against archons / pheonix

- Corruptors are awful against anything


So what do you do ? Mass fungal ? just snipe infestors and you're fine.

Corrupters tank alot of damage. Just make 2 of them as moving turrets to help ward off sharking phoenixes. Then, use Hydras + Fungal to take them out quickly.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#770
On August 03 2011 11:17 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Ofcourse you can stop it with a bio army. You need to EMP the sentries so they can only use 1 guardian shield. Also put your scvs on hold position or have buildings to block. Marine Marauder + Medivacs with EMP and equal upgrades absolutely shred a no area of effect Protoss army.

put the scv on hold too (or better have supply depots as a wall so the zealots waste their charge on it
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 02:19:10
August 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#771
Who thought EG was actually going to stand a chance? rofl
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Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#772
I honestly thought EG would win, but after seeing their play I'm not convinced they are very good compared to other pro-teams. I hope that changes with PuMa and their new training house!

EG Hwaiting!

Gratz Reign~!
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
August 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#773
On August 03 2011 11:17 Liudo wrote:
Lol ... first few pages "EG is going to take this so easy"
"incomming IdrA all kill"
"Reign has no chance"

IdrA plays badly
Axslav plays badly
Machine plays badly
Strifeco plays badly
DeMuslim plays ok and loses anyway

Reign takes it easily

StrifeCro played just fine. One of EG's uncommon picks for a clanwar and he picked up a win. How did Demu play ok?
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hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 02:20:38
August 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#774
On August 03 2011 11:17 Liudo wrote:
Lol ... first few pages "EG is going to take this so easy"
"incomming IdrA all kill"
"Reign has no chance"

IdrA plays badly
Axslav plays badly
Machine plays badly
Strifeco plays badly
DeMuslim plays ok and loses anyway

Reign takes it easily


Strife didn't play badly. And how is massing marines off two bases playing "ok" compared to the others who played "badly"?

Edit: two bases
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
toastnbutter
Profile Joined June 2011
United States62 Posts
August 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#775
kiwi can eat EG up all day
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
August 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#776
On August 03 2011 11:19 Kfish wrote:
I honestly thought EG would win, but after seeing their play I'm not convinced they are very good compared to other pro-teams. I hope that changes with PuMa and their new training house!

EG Hwaiting!

Gratz Reign~!


EG is mostly made up of players who were decent in beta + Idra & Demu
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
August 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#777
Although I'm not really sure the games were all that great, this is an extremely exciting format. 500 bucks on the line, unseating a current champion gives you an extra 100 bucks (does each win increase that by 100?) and winner's league format makes for a really really cool experience.

Thanks IGN!
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 03 2011 02:20 GMT
#778
On August 03 2011 11:17 Fatalize wrote:
What a horrible set of games. I should have went to bed 2 hours ago.

Every single game was just awful 2 unit massing


Kiwi's play was very nice.
Liudo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
August 03 2011 02:20 GMT
#779
On August 03 2011 11:19 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 11:17 Liudo wrote:
Lol ... first few pages "EG is going to take this so easy"
"incomming IdrA all kill"
"Reign has no chance"

IdrA plays badly
Axslav plays badly
Machine plays badly
Strifeco plays badly
DeMuslim plays ok and loses anyway

Reign takes it easily

StrifeCro played just fine. One of EG's uncommon picks for a clanwar and he picked up a win. How did Demu play ok?


Ok one of Strifeco games was pretty good but on zerg favoured map so...

yeah and DeMus didn't exactly play badly but he did get outplayed for sure
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 02:21:40
August 03 2011 02:20 GMT
#780
On August 03 2011 11:17 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 11:15 bennyaus wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:15 Crazypyro1 wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:13 bennyaus wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:11 MrCon wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:09 Fatalize wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:08 Zath.erin wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:05 integrity wrote:
i think it is funny that mass phoenix beats mass hydra.


hydra are so bad even against the units they are suppose to counter


I don't think Hydra are meant to counter a unit that does extra damage vs light. You would have to be kind of dense to think that. In mass numbers you need something that is armored and hits air or else AoE.



- Mutas are awful against archons / pheonix

- Corruptors are awful against anything


So what do you do ? Mass fungal ? just snipe infestors and you're fine.

Corruptors are awful against everything bu phoenix, and the point is how to counter phoenixes. Corruptors also allow guardians which rape the ground army that kiwi had.


Corrupters are awful against everything? What game do you play. They are amazing vs Phoenix/Carriers (in small numbers)/Vikings/Battlecruisers.

This reminds me of an earlier SOTG where Painuser was saying how good Zealots were and Inc/Tyler argued against him saying they're worthless. Lo and behold, Chargelots are like the central unit of the PvT metagame right now. People need to try these things before saying they're worthless.


He meant corrupters are awful against everything else in the PvZ matchup. No one uses carriers and as soon as the phoenixes die, you realize you have 40 food sitting around in the air while you get raped by archon/zealot.


You realise that you have killed 40 food of his army though? and that 40 food can turn into Broodlords which hard counter Zealot/Archon.

Except because of the huge amount of Corruptors you have to make, you can't hold his ground force with whatever ground force you have. You think he's gonna sit there and wait for you to get hive tech and greater spire and morph into broods just because you killed his phoenixes?

Rofl.


You're acting like you have to make one corruptor per phoenix. You don't. And you use the corruptors with your attack, hence you're not haing a bunch of corruptors floating around, you have canceled out their air with your air and mass roach takes care of the rest of that. You don't herp derp trying to fly your corruptors around solely to try and stop the phoenixes from harassing.
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