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Live report thread equals no balance whining; Balance whining equals warnings and bans!
agtemd
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada362 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#461
*Gasp, Artosis just called it an allin :O
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#462
Tastosis just justified the crying noobies

ahhhh!
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#463
On July 20 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Hi Mom!

God I hate this guy haha
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#464
All in is a grey term.

In general i think it's sacrificing production, tech and economy in favour of units. That's very vague, but it should be. There's varying degress of all in.

Arguing over it is stupid.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
jorge_the_awesome
Profile Joined January 2011
United States463 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#465
wow Hi Mom guy
"Clothes are stupid"-Tastosis "Every dragoon that has ever been made is dumber than a bowl of hair" -Day[9] "Where are you going to take this skill now?" Stephano- "To the bank!" "Baby stuck under a car and you can't lift it up? What a wimp"-Artosis
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#466
I don't like this kind of playstyle if the zerg does not hold it. It's all about scouting the cliff pylon and this all-in is a fail. It was a one trick poney.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Lyijysiipi
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland7 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#467
On July 20 2011 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I really, really hope Trickster doesn't win with this style. Protoss doing nothing but timing attacks is just horrible and disappointing. It doesn't develop the game and I thought we were past that. I mean, yeah, well done, good build order and decent execution, but c'mon. . .

Hopefully he has something else in his arsenal and won't continue to do them.


I had to get my TL password from my email because your post sucks. Develope the game? How do macro games develope the game in a way that timing attacks don't?

I mean, take an imaginary player who does nothing but 1 base timing all-ins. If he's succesful, wins tournaments etc. with them, is it bad? Bad for the game? Bad for the viewers? How? Some people might actually enjoy watching shorter, more action packed games. I for one wouldn't want to watch Losira macro up a 5 base ling/bling/infestor -> BL game, I'd rather work. And while at work, I really don't like working.

But you know, your opinion must be the ultimate truth, sorry that I bothered.
Accept this goat.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#468
On July 20 2011 18:52 doihy wrote:
im pretty sure warping in units in your opponents base continuously is an all in.


What kind of shitty rule is that? Of course warping in units in opponents base isn't allin in itself.. It's like the defining power of the Protoss mechanics :S

2nd game was preeetty sick, defenitely gonna have to watch the VOD of that again - I recommend this game!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#469
My mom doesn't watch GSL.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#470
hi son... now get off the screen
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#471
Tell the guy holding the sign that his Mom isn't watching
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 09:54:32
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#472
That guy with the signs is awesome! Hi mom and Happyface hwaiting!

Tell the guy holding the sign that his Mom isn't watching


But maybe she is!
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#473
On July 20 2011 18:53 jorge_the_awesome wrote:
wow Hi Mom guy


If his mom is watching GSL i'll be impressed.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 09:55:27
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#474
If Tester lost that army without doing economic damage (ie: traded it for the Z army), the game was over. Protoss units simply aren't as effective in smaller numbers and Stargates limit his tech options. Like the 7gate, he either had to win or do crippling damage to his opponent's production - it was all-in.

People call a lot of P attacks all-in because, well, they often are - the protoss army has a lot of trouble regaining army integrity if the ball is destroyed. This is why there are so damn many timing attacks, because if you're gonna commit, you need to hit hard.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#475
Dear god, these guys in the background are so annoying. How many times do you need to flash your signs and take pictures?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#476
Come on Losira!! Make this 2-1 in your favor!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#477
On July 20 2011 18:53 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 18:51 SxYSpAz wrote:
On July 20 2011 18:46 Sc2Null wrote:
It irks me everytime a zerg loses, people say they are greedy...wtf?

well maybe there's a problem with you being "irked" everytime a zerg loses. they can't always win... and in that situation, it wasn't so much greed, it was just being caught off by a new build. if this was a known build and popular, then it would be greedy to lose to it, but sometimes it's near impossible to react to a new build.

you should probably just be happy to see some innovation. Multi-pronged toss attack. who knew?


I probably phrased that wrong, "it irks me everytime that when a zerg loses, people say they were greedy".

yeah, well that's just lazy commentary... or stupidity.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 20 2011 09:54 GMT
#478
On July 20 2011 18:53 nojok wrote:
I don't like this kind of playstyle if the zerg does not hold it. It's all about scouting the cliff pylon and this all-in is a fail. It was a one trick poney.


Nah he would have just not attacked if it was scouted. Lots of people confuse an opportunity with a dead set plan.

Can I sneak this pylon here? Oh I can? Ok go fucking kill him.

Or wait it got spotted? Ok play game out till the next chance comes out.
twitch.tv/medrea
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 09:55:08
July 20 2011 09:55 GMT
#479
On July 20 2011 18:50 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
I really hate the use of the word "all-in". I mean, what is even the definition nowadays? I, myself don't have a clue.

Attacking a zerg player.


Also attacking as a zerg player.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
July 20 2011 09:55 GMT
#480
On July 20 2011 18:51 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I really, really hope Trickster doesn't win with this style. Protoss doing nothing but timing attacks is just horrible and disappointing. It doesn't develop the game and I thought we were past that. I mean, yeah, well done, good build order and decent execution, but c'mon. . .

Hopefully he has something else in his arsenal and won't continue to do them.


If you dont pressure zerg early, their macro gets WAY too massive to deal with. Then it becomes a insane game of "Praying the zerg makes a mistake" ala MC vs Sen style.

If you let a zerg sit there for 20 minutes and dont do any attacking at all, you already lost. So, "timing attacks" are REQUIRED to beat a zerg.


This is flat out incorrect. People always use this defense of "omg, if you leave zerg alone, you can't play a macro game with them!!!" So untrue.

If you have a solid, standard macro passive style you can play macro games without timing attacks against a Zerg.
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