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On July 20 2011 18:50 cassurai wrote: I think 5 years later people will still be debating about whether something is all-in "He pulled 14 scvs! That's not 68% of the income and therefore not an all-in since his marines was made to specifically kill off 1 queen and 3 drones atleast!"
Lol, what if something like that happened ._.
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On July 20 2011 18:48 Noktix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:46 Tantaburs wrote:On July 20 2011 18:44 doihy wrote: Can trickster try something else other then all ins?
he had more probes then losira had drones and more tech. How was that all in? Really? That wasn't all-in? He only ended up with more probes because Losira pulled drones at his main to fight at one point. Losira holds that attack and he wins the game...it was all-in.
I disagree. Losira had something around 50 drones, much less than in game 1. If he had held, he would still need to drone up and get lair etc, just as Tester would need to get robo/twilight whatever he desired.
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On July 20 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote: I really hate the use of the word "all-in". I mean, what is even the definition nowadays? I, myself don't have a clue.
All-in : an attack that if fails to kill or do big economic damage loses you the game.
At least that's my definition, fits most peoples use of the word.
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On July 20 2011 18:50 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote: I really hate the use of the word "all-in". I mean, what is even the definition nowadays? I, myself don't have a clue. Attack before 200 food is an all in. Also Cheese. And anything less than 4 bases is a rush.
lol thats really funny and sad at the same time.
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Anyone else's stream having problems? I have stuttering every second.
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On July 20 2011 18:46 Sc2Null wrote: It irks me everytime a zerg loses, people say they are greedy...wtf? well maybe there's a problem with you being "irked" everytime a zerg loses. they can't always win... and in that situation, it wasn't so much greed, it was just being caught off by a new build. if this was a known build and popular, then it would be greedy to lose to it, but sometimes it's near impossible to react to a new build.
you should probably just be happy to see some innovation. Multi-pronged toss attack. who knew?
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On July 20 2011 18:51 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:50 BlindKill wrote: can any1 recap whats so amazing about game 2? i watched up to the multi prong attack and had to go cook nuggets He used void rays to 6 gate into the base.
GSL > nuggets
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im pretty sure warping in units in your opponents base continuously is an all in.
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Did they just use the Sports Center theme song?
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On July 20 2011 18:51 Bleak wrote: Anyone else's stream having problems? I have stuttering every second.
Try a lower quality :D
I'm on hq and its smooth so I dunno.
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As if that dude's mom is watching GSL.
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On July 20 2011 18:50 ondik wrote: wow, i'm pleasantly surprised by the recommendation poll for second game. Had this happened two months ago, there would've been more "no" than "yes". Was thinking the same, was hoping I wouldn't be the only one who was honestly impressed by that game, thought all the zergs here would whine beyond belief, but TL smiles upon us all today it seems
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On July 20 2011 18:51 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote: I really, really hope Trickster doesn't win with this style. Protoss doing nothing but timing attacks is just horrible and disappointing. It doesn't develop the game and I thought we were past that. I mean, yeah, well done, good build order and decent execution, but c'mon. . .
Hopefully he has something else in his arsenal and won't continue to do them. If you dont pressure zerg early, their macro gets WAY too massive to deal with. Then it becomes a insane game of "Praying the zerg makes a mistake" ala MC vs Sen style. If you let a zerg sit there for 20 minutes and dont do any attacking at all, you already lost. So, "timing attacks" are REQUIRED to beat a zerg. I wouldn't say timing attacks are REQUIRED but definitely pressure to make them stop producing drones and instead, units.
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On July 20 2011 18:50 flodeskum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote: I really hate the use of the word "all-in". I mean, what is even the definition nowadays? I, myself don't have a clue. Attacking a zerg player. This comment wins
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On July 20 2011 18:52 doihy wrote: im pretty sure warping in units in your opponents base continuously is an all in.
Nope. This is Starcraft 2
Not
Base Builder 2: The Legend of Base Builder Continues...
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On July 20 2011 18:51 SxYSpAz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:46 Sc2Null wrote: It irks me everytime a zerg loses, people say they are greedy...wtf? well maybe there's a problem with you being "irked" everytime a zerg loses. they can't always win... and in that situation, it wasn't so much greed, it was just being caught off by a new build. if this was a known build and popular, then it would be greedy to lose to it, but sometimes it's near impossible to react to a new build. you should probably just be happy to see some innovation. Multi-pronged toss attack. who knew?
I probably phrased that wrong, "it irks me everytime that when a zerg loses, people say they were greedy".
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On July 20 2011 18:51 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote: I really, really hope Trickster doesn't win with this style. Protoss doing nothing but timing attacks is just horrible and disappointing. It doesn't develop the game and I thought we were past that. I mean, yeah, well done, good build order and decent execution, but c'mon. . .
Hopefully he has something else in his arsenal and won't continue to do them. If you dont pressure zerg early, their macro gets WAY too massive to deal with. Then it becomes a insane game of "Praying the zerg makes a mistake" ala MC vs Sen style. If you let a zerg sit there for 20 minutes and dont do any attacking at all, you already lost. So, "timing attacks" are REQUIRED to beat a zerg. Funny you mention that because Zerg's are increasingly more aggressive against Protoss now because THEY'RE the one who don't want to let the Protoss sit and macro.
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O yeah Artosis telling the truth!
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