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Alokiya
United States648 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:41 Shellshock1122 wrote: So we have a paradox. If a zerg wins, everyone recommends the poll. If a zerg loses, everyone votes No on the poll. in a ZvZ, mindfuck? Or are we just going to vote yes for Nestea taking a gold base and stuff? I think you just divided by 0. | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote: If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose? he lost because he executed it poorly. There is more than strategy in SC . if you make a mistake like mismicroing all your banelings into a queen your probably going to lose if your strategy hinged on doing economic damage. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote: hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious 14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him. Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:41 Shellshock1122 wrote: So we have a paradox. If a zerg wins, everyone recommends the poll. If a zerg loses, everyone votes No on the poll. in a ZvZ, mindfuck? Or are we just going to vote yes for Nestea taking a gold base and stuff? I just usually vote if you have time unless its actually a good close game with some sexy builds/micro/strategy. Or no when its shit like a lot of the time. Sounds like how I vote for every matchup. | ||
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Pyre
United States1940 Posts
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:40 bgx wrote: maybe he meant taking gold expo, it was done in beta long time ago How was it done in beta when I feel like that was a dual-sight only strategy? Apart from Metalopolis, what other maps can you expand to gold? Doing it on metal is just dumb because of watchtowers, xnc has rocks and there really isn't any other maps that have gold expos apart from belshir which has rocks blocking the gold too. It's just a Dual-Sight only strategy, and a great way to open up the match. You say that Koreans are behind in ZvZ when NesTea is the king of Zerg? kk | ||
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: wasting all your banelings = blind countered? 1 base roach vs 1 base baneling = blindcountered. He focused down 2 of the 4 banelings with roaches, and then the other 2 may have misfired on the queen, but they were still in range of the newly spawned roaches. I don't think they were going to get to the drones. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:43 Pajegetc wrote: Which is why zvz is so bad to play. Might as well flip a coin at the start of the match. It wasn't a conflip. You don't hatch first on Xelnaga. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
Nestea wins = yes Nestea loses = no anyone but nestea = if you have the time | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
Given that after the next game (which should finish the series 3 - 0) we'll get the worst mirror matchup in the game which will probably result in a lot of 4 gating and games that don't get past the 10 minute mark, this day should be just as short as yesterday. Tomorrows PvZ and TvT should promise more action though. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:43 GuardianEU wrote: well then he didn't lose any ZvZs in the first season, amirite? ohohohoho | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:42 Sc2Null wrote: nope, execution. If those banes hit the drones instead of the queen, nestea probably woulda gg'ed out. Nestea would've just pulled the drones...and targeted the 4-5 banelings with the queen and the 3 incoming roaches. | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
Nestea is an utter beast. | ||
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: wasting all your banelings = blind countered? Roaches blind counter banelings. | ||
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GuardianEU
Netherlands488 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:43 MonkSEA wrote: How was it done in beta when I feel like that was a dual-sight only strategy? Apart from Metalopolis, what other maps can you expand to gold? Doing it on metal is just dumb because of watchtowers, xnc has rocks and there really isn't any other maps that have gold expos apart from belshir which has rocks blocking the gold too. It's just a Dual-Sight only strategy, and a great way to open up the match. You say that Koreans are behind in ZvZ when NesTea is the king of Zerg? kk crossfire?  | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:42 Morta wrote: Haters gonna hate. Go get a coffee or something to eat. Haters? lol, I'm one of the happiest loving people on TL. And I did get a drink. | ||
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:43 Sc2Null wrote: This series is actually more one-sided than Nestea vs. Inca LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ONE SIDED? Dude, first game Nestea stole gold base. Second game mis-execution. WOW | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 19 2011 18:42 Pajegetc wrote: And it's the only matchup you play on the ladder too, makes playing and watching completely unenjoyable. Was hoping to actually learn something from tonight's games. :-/ Really? I feel like the games you learn the best from are those between two players of close skill level. Here we have considered the greatest ZvZ player vs a player who is winless in ZvZ in televised games. With Losira still in the tournament, I doubt Nestea is going to throw out any groundbreaking strategies. If you want to learn ZvZ through nestea playing epic games, pray for that as a finals. Even then, though, we would have to see if Losira is up for the challenge. Puma and MC said they are practice partners, and that turned out pretty epic. Nestea plays with Losira all the time | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
set 3 coming up although nestea alrdy won 2:0?^^now lets see mc crushing, it's a bit sad that gsl will be over soo soon today though,w ell more time for ladder i guess | ||
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