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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#721
GSL Fighting!!!!

<3

Quite enjoyed that series. I love mirror matches. Two guys duking it out, seeing who is better at XvX.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
July 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#722
On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz

troll alert

o really? coca's zvz is god
thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
July 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#723
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though



Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#724
On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious


14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him.
Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now.

Wheres your sunglasses son? You gotta rock that shit when you break it down like that for us little people
BookII
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia400 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#725
GSL Hwaiting..... Splash, Water, Mini Shorts, Splash, GSL
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#726
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 19 2011 18:45 AsnSensation wrote:
gom failing abit? set 3 coming up although nestea alrdy won 2:0?^^

now lets see mc crushing, it's a bit sad that gsl will be over soo soon today though,w ell more time for ladder i guess

it's a best of 5



oh damn ok my fail then, though bo5 starts@ ro4 sryy shame on me *hiding*
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#727
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though

Zenio is/was/still is a beast in ZvZ
MKP||TSL
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#728
Nestea was running his drones when the banelings were coming. He had a LOT of roaches to kill the banes before they hit the drones. It didn't matter that the banelings hit the queen.
...
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#729
ZvZ is intense, but by no means a coinflip.

Nestea's roach ling should have countered the banes if he had his roaches on hold position. Coca had 4 banes. He would have wasted a bane on the lings, had 2 die on the way to the drone line, and 1 wouldn't have done any damage. But 2 blunders by each player left them relatively even, nestea used the tech advantage to win.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#730
On July 19 2011 18:45 mikyaJ wrote:
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On July 19 2011 18:43 Pajegetc wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:42 Oboeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:41 DisaFear wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?

Bad execution


blindcountered


Which is why zvz is so bad to play. Might as well flip a coin at the start of the match.

What happens when a Protoss 4 gates and a Terran goes CC first?


CC first makes for a really strong PF rush, so T wins every time.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#731
On July 19 2011 18:43 Pyre wrote:
fruitdealer also made the finals during the crazy ultra splash bug


and he also made the finals when every other zerg got smashed out of GSL by the ro16 and when roaches has less range but you know w/e
The road isn't always straight.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#732
On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:
o really? coca's zvz is god
thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in


It's not god enough
Or Nestea is better
ZvZ, very hard to find a 'standard', it's extremely volatile
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#733
Wasn't MC hongun 3-1 MC last time. I thought MC lost a game
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#734
On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious


14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him.
Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now.


Yes, you are ahead of Nestea in ZvZ strategy. I can't possibly see any flaw in this argument.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#735
On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz

troll alert

o really? coca's zvz is god
thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in


troll alert getting louder...
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#736
On July 19 2011 18:47 BookII wrote:
GSL Hwaiting..... Splash, Water, Mini Shorts, Splash, GSL


Sounds like a list of YouTube tags for the video :D
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#737
On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious


14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him.
Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now.


It's a build done since beta? I've never heard of a 14/14 in beta. It was all 8/10/11 pools into 15/18 hatches. I think you're talking out of your ass.

Also not scouting with 14/14 is a little silly. If your opponent 15 hatches, and you scout with your lings you've got to play from behind but if you drone scout it, you can make more lings or try not get as behind by throwing a hatch down.

ZvZ is a gamble in general. I think Korean ZvZ is far ahead of NA/EU ZvZ for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirmonkeh Zerg Live Casts and Commentary!
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#738
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz


This is standard ZvZ
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#739
On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though



Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning.

DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#740
On July 19 2011 18:48 Tantaburs wrote:
Wasn't MC hongun 3-1 MC last time. I thought MC lost a game

that doesnt mean anything now jesus
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