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On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote: nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz troll alert o really? coca's zvz is god thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in
So god that he hasn't wona a game of ZvZ on TV?
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On July 19 2011 18:47 dc302 wrote: Nestea was running his drones when the banelings were coming. He had a LOT of roaches to kill the banes before they hit the drones. It didn't matter that the banelings hit the queen. He speaks the truth. The roaches blind countered Coca's strat.
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On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote: nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz troll alert o really? coca's zvz is god thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in If you're going to try to troll don't be so fucking obvious
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On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote: nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz troll alert o really? coca's zvz is god thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in Where did you see Coca's ZvZ played well? Not trying to come off as rude. This is a serious question. All I'm seeing is he's 0-4 on TLPD. Granted his losses were to Losira, who is pretty good, and Leenock, who is not bad, I doubt Nestea would lose to Coca in a macro ZvZ.
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The Usual Suspects is the correct analogy.
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On July 19 2011 18:48 Tantaburs wrote: Wasn't MC hongun 3-1 MC last time. I thought MC lost a game HongUn's 0% PvP win rate would disagree
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One sided games..Look no further than MarinekingPrime (it was him?) vs TheBestfou lol, especially with the "beautiful" banshee control.
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On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote: There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...
Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too) Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ... might be delusional though Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning. DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.
Except Cezanne.
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On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote: There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...
Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too) Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ... might be delusional though Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning. DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.
Haha, OGS send Cezanne last week in the teamleague... Cezanne lost though
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On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote: There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...
Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too) Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ... might be delusional though Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning. DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.
Except when oGs threw Cezanne at him.
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On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote: These games look like a Code S Final. For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame. hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious 14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him. Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now. You just wasted your 2k post on something that isn't new to anyone. What was genius was the detail in the build, not the build order - he got his banelings out at a timing where you would normally be denied thanks to really smart ling movement and knowledge of where Nestea's ovies would be.
There's nothing to indicate the 14/14 into bane/sling is Coca's standard. Calling a planned map-specific play 'behind the metagame' is totally ridiculous; both of these guys have spent days preparing for this series. No North American SC2 pro could win these games at the moment (maybe Idra if he practiced more than he has been); an amateur commenting that it's old/behind is crazy.
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On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote: nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz
>What exactly is standard ZvZ?
^that
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On July 19 2011 18:49 dartoo wrote: One sided games..Look no further than MarinekingPrime (it was him?) vs TheBestfou lol, especially with the beautiful banshee control.
You mean FXOTheBest
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On July 19 2011 18:48 branflakes14 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:47 BookII wrote: GSL Hwaiting..... Splash, Water, Mini Shorts, Splash, GSL Sounds like a list of YouTube tags for the video :D haha very much so. There some kind of hypnotic effect that I just can't put my finger on.
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STANDARD = Bronze Level ZvZ maybe. :-D
It's GSL, he's the best Z in the world... what could be standard here? LOL
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On July 19 2011 18:48 ShootingStars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:48 Tantaburs wrote: Wasn't MC hongun 3-1 MC last time. I thought MC lost a game that doesnt mean anything now jesus
Commenting on Artosis saying it was the most one sided set he has ever seen.
Why you so defensive
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On July 19 2011 18:48 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote: These games look like a Code S Final. For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame. hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious 14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him. Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now. It's a build done since beta? I've never heard of a 14/14 in beta. It was all 8/10/11 pools into 15/18 hatches. I think you're talking out of your ass. Also not scouting with 14/14 is a little silly. If your opponent 15 hatches, and you scout with your lings you've got to play from behind but if you drone scout it, you can make more lings or try not get as behind by throwing a hatch down. ZvZ is a gamble in general. I think Korean ZvZ is far ahead of NA/EU ZvZ for sure. ZvZ in beta was 100% baneling wars. 14/14 was extremely common.
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Anyone knows if Nestea have met MC before and how it went?
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On July 19 2011 18:49 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote: There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...
Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too) Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ... might be delusional though Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning. DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it. Haha, OGS send Cezanne last week in the teamleague... Cezanne lost though Yeah, that's the ONLY time ever though. And aren't ogs zergs kind of like skt1 zergs?
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Game Three starting on Bel'shir beach
Nestea is 2-0 up
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