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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#741
On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz

troll alert

o really? coca's zvz is god
thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in


So god that he hasn't wona a game of ZvZ on TV?
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#742
On July 19 2011 18:47 dc302 wrote:
Nestea was running his drones when the banelings were coming. He had a LOT of roaches to kill the banes before they hit the drones. It didn't matter that the banelings hit the queen.

He speaks the truth. The roaches blind countered Coca's strat.
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#743
On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz

troll alert

o really? coca's zvz is god
thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in

If you're going to try to troll don't be so fucking obvious
MKP||TSL
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#744
On July 19 2011 18:46 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz

troll alert

o really? coca's zvz is god
thats why nestea is doing gold base shiet/1 base roach all in

Where did you see Coca's ZvZ played well? Not trying to come off as rude. This is a serious question. All I'm seeing is he's 0-4 on TLPD. Granted his losses were to Losira, who is pretty good, and Leenock, who is not bad, I doubt Nestea would lose to Coca in a macro ZvZ.
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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#745
The Usual Suspects is the correct analogy.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#746
On July 19 2011 18:48 Tantaburs wrote:
Wasn't MC hongun 3-1 MC last time. I thought MC lost a game

HongUn's 0% PvP win rate would disagree
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 09:49:45
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#747
One sided games..Look no further than MarinekingPrime (it was him?) vs TheBestfou lol, especially with the "beautiful" banshee control.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#748
On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though



Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning.

DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.


Except Cezanne.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#749
On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though



Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning.

DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.


Haha, OGS send Cezanne last week in the teamleague... Cezanne lost though
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#750
On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though



Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning.

DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.


Except when oGs threw Cezanne at him.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#751
On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious


14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him.
Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now.

You just wasted your 2k post on something that isn't new to anyone. What was genius was the detail in the build, not the build order - he got his banelings out at a timing where you would normally be denied thanks to really smart ling movement and knowledge of where Nestea's ovies would be.

There's nothing to indicate the 14/14 into bane/sling is Coca's standard. Calling a planned map-specific play 'behind the metagame' is totally ridiculous; both of these guys have spent days preparing for this series. No North American SC2 pro could win these games at the moment (maybe Idra if he practiced more than he has been); an amateur commenting that it's old/behind is crazy.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#752
On July 19 2011 18:45 ShootingStars wrote:
nestea cant beat coca in a STANDARD zvz


>What exactly is standard ZvZ?

^that
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#753
On July 19 2011 18:49 dartoo wrote:
One sided games..Look no further than MarinekingPrime (it was him?) vs TheBestfou lol, especially with the beautiful banshee control.


You mean FXOTheBest
BookII
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 09:50:01
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#754
On July 19 2011 18:48 branflakes14 wrote:
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On July 19 2011 18:47 BookII wrote:
GSL Hwaiting..... Splash, Water, Mini Shorts, Splash, GSL


Sounds like a list of YouTube tags for the video :D

haha very much so.
There some kind of hypnotic effect that I just can't put my finger on.
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#755
STANDARD = Bronze Level ZvZ maybe. :-D

It's GSL, he's the best Z in the world... what could be standard here? LOL
MMA | MC | Dear
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#756
On July 19 2011 18:48 ShootingStars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:48 Tantaburs wrote:
Wasn't MC hongun 3-1 MC last time. I thought MC lost a game

that doesnt mean anything now jesus



Commenting on Artosis saying it was the most one sided set he has ever seen.

Why you so defensive
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#757
On July 19 2011 18:48 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:43 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious


14gas, 14pool into speedling/bane without scouting the opponent is a build done since beta and used to be the most common zvz build. For Tasteless it was something totally new and apparently some of you agree with him.
Korean zvz is just a lot of gamble, but I'm not going to explain you how zvz works now.


It's a build done since beta? I've never heard of a 14/14 in beta. It was all 8/10/11 pools into 15/18 hatches. I think you're talking out of your ass.

Also not scouting with 14/14 is a little silly. If your opponent 15 hatches, and you scout with your lings you've got to play from behind but if you drone scout it, you can make more lings or try not get as behind by throwing a hatch down.

ZvZ is a gamble in general. I think Korean ZvZ is far ahead of NA/EU ZvZ for sure.

ZvZ in beta was 100% baneling wars. 14/14 was extremely common.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3561 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#758
Anyone knows if Nestea have met MC before and how it went?
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#759
On July 19 2011 18:49 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:48 Nevuk wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:46 Alokiya wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:45 Shalaiyn wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:42 SenorChang wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)


Could've sworn there was a zerg back then which wasn't Nestea who was feared in a ZvZ...

might be delusional though



Isn't Zenio's zvz really good? I know he's been around since the beginning.

DRG's is apparently so good no one even sends zergs at him. But you know, that's just rumors since we've never seen it.


Haha, OGS send Cezanne last week in the teamleague... Cezanne lost though

Yeah, that's the ONLY time ever though. And aren't ogs zergs kind of like skt1 zergs?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#760
Game Three starting on Bel'shir beach

Nestea is 2-0 up
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