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mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#661
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

How Fruitdealer for a while? He didn't play a single GSL ZvZ until Season 3, after NesTea had replaced him as best zerg.
MKP||TSL
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#662
On July 19 2011 18:40 Oboeman wrote:
To be honest, that was very lucky for nestea that he went roach before expand. neither player drone scouted right?


I would expect that P. Tea knew a baneling build was coming, although he probably didn't think it would be that quick
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Morta
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany557 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#663
On July 19 2011 18:40 Seditary wrote:
Games are quick = GOM making breaks 5 mins.



Haters gonna hate.

Go get a coffee or something to eat.
if i'am sad i stop being sad and play starcraft 2 instead.True Story.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#664
On July 19 2011 18:41 DisaFear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?

Bad execution


blindcountered
LightWireEX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States387 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#665
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?



Like a previous poster said, it all comes down to execution. He could have hit a clump of drones with those banes, then held off the roach/ling attack and then he wins. Not to mention the 2 secret banes in nestea's base. His game to lose really, he had it.
ghOst.3344
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#666
On July 19 2011 18:39 hysterial wrote:
Holy hell zvz has become close to unwatchable now, I feel like I enjoy pvp more now.


And it's the only matchup you play on the ladder too, makes playing and watching completely unenjoyable. Was hoping to actually learn something from tonight's games. :-/
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#667
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?


Micro banes failed to kill 5-10 drones
There is no rest in the dark realm.
DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#668
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?


He ran his banelings into the hatchery.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#669
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

Fruitdealer was never this dominant in zvz lol (didn't even play a ZvZ till open season 3 - after he stopped doing well too)
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Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#670
On July 19 2011 18:42 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:41 DisaFear wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?

Bad execution


blindcountered


nope, execution. If those banes hit the drones instead of the queen, nestea probably woulda gg'ed out.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#671
On July 19 2011 18:42 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:41 DisaFear wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?

Bad execution


blindcountered

wasting all your banelings = blind countered?
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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#672
On July 19 2011 18:40 Supamang wrote:
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On July 19 2011 18:39 Tachion wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

Tournament results say otherwise. Foreign zerg's get slaughtered vs korean zvz with the exception of dimaga vs nestea.

Tachion, I believe you just got hipstered by cyclone25


I played Roach infestor before it was cool *hipster pose*
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#673
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?


Because he mismicroed at the end? I could be Terran and have the most amazing strategy ever, get into a perfect position, and then let my entire bioball die to banelings, or something. A good strategy and then the actual execution of the battle in which I should have an advantage thanks to my strategy are totally different things...
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#674
On July 19 2011 18:40 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:37 cyclone25 wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:35 ooni wrote:
These games look like a Code S Final.


For you yes. For me, this is what I used to play several months ago. Koreans are very behind in zvz metagame.

hahhahhaahhaha you can't actually be serious


maybe he meant taking gold expo, it was done in beta long time ago

I think he may honestly believe he is more up to date and smart at ZvZ than Nestea. wha..???
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#675
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?


Execution. Like in Chess, if you outthink your opponent, but still play the tile in the wrong ordre, you're fucked.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#676
On July 19 2011 18:41 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What's the record for shortest Bo5 in GSL history? Probably some pvp


probably the MC vs hongun game from gsl May


I think you mean GSL March.

And yeah, set 1 and 3 were... meh.
ffxiv enjoyer
GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 09:43:42
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#677
On July 19 2011 18:42 mikyaJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:40 Shalaiyn wrote:
There's always this guy that just doesn't die in ZvZ and only loses like 1 set in a blue moon...

Jaedong, Fruitdealer for a while, Nestea... god

How Fruitdealer for a while? He didn't play a single GSL ZvZ until Season 3, after NesTea had replaced him as best zerg.


well then he didn't lose any ZvZs in the first season, amirite?
Standard.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#678
On July 19 2011 18:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
So we have a paradox.

If a zerg wins, everyone recommends the poll.
If a zerg loses, everyone votes No on the poll.
in a ZvZ, mindfuck? Or are we just going to vote yes for Nestea taking a gold base and stuff?


If Nestea wins it's an instant recommendation. If he loses everyone votes no and the player that beat him gets angry emails.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 09:43:40
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#679
On July 19 2011 18:40 Pipeline wrote:
It looks so simple. But I assure you that doing shit in ZvZ is fucking hard :O Missclicking banelings happens to the best players as well. Fights on creep with tier1 units... everything moves so fucking fast its easy to mess up a click


Yeah man I know what you mean. Also, the tiniest misclick of your lings and you can lose ALL of them to a single baneling and it's GG.
Twitchy matchup.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 19 2011 09:43 GMT
#680
On July 19 2011 18:42 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:41 DisaFear wrote:
On July 19 2011 18:41 MCDayC wrote:
If Coca's strategy was so good, how did he lose?

Bad execution


blindcountered


Which is why zvz is so bad to play. Might as well flip a coin at the start of the match.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
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