NASL Grand Finals Day 1 - Page 1063

On July 09 2011 16:20 Agnosthar wrote:
Flying all those players to America out for a single BO3 is a joke, either add double elimination or at least make it a bo5.

On July 09 2011 16:01 Stanlot wrote:
North American Star League no longer has North Americans in it.

On July 09 2011 16:21 Technique wrote:

Agreed.

On July 09 2011 16:22 kNyTTyM wrote:


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On July 09 2011 16:22 kNyTTyM wrote:


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On July 09 2011 15:42 Dingobloo wrote:


It's MLG's decision to have that many games playing at once and it causes massive instability to their streams and the games, having that many players on the floor is how they pay for their prize-pool, it's easy to say it's not their fault it's the internet, but they're over-farming their internet in order to not have to spend any of the membership money on the prize pools.

NASL is the other way, they want to pay the players a decent amount (we're talking an order of magnitude larger for first place), and whatever is left over is going into production which means over-working a smaller number of less trained staff.

We have both, you don't necessarily need to choose, but it's important to keep in mind when thinking about the issues each is facing.

On July 09 2011 16:20 Agnosthar wrote:
Flying all those players to America out for a single BO3 is a joke, either add double elimination or at least make it a bo5.

On July 09 2011 16:22 kNyTTyM wrote:


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On July 09 2011 16:26 lunchforthesky wrote:
Where as NASL is meant to be an even mix from EU/NA/KOR with naturally players going to the LAN phase only for the weekend.

On July 09 2011 16:25 DMKraft wrote:
What are the recommended games please?

On July 09 2011 16:14 zolii wrote:


You forgot to mention that HSC had years of experience and knowhow of ESL TV behind them.
GSL has years of experience in doing live events
MLG has experience now cause the have learned on their mistakes
Dreamhack has experience because they have been doing this for quite some time
NASL has experience because... of wait they don't because this is their first major live event

Just give them some slack - they will improve and stop hating without considering the whole picture.

On July 09 2011 16:20 Agnosthar wrote:
Flying all those players to America out for a single BO3 is a joke, either add double elimination or at least make it a bo5.

On July 09 2011 16:30 pwnopotamus wrote:
Just got back from the live event at Ontario Convention Center and I wanted to share my thoughts regarding the long delays due to player intros before each match.

We didn't see any of the intros at the convention center. It seemed like the casters were just stalling for time as the players got situated and set up. I assume there was some sort of video package that the stream got to watch during this time. I never got the feeling we were waiting on a video to finish before the match starting. I think the main reason everything took so long was because the players needed to set up their mouse/keyboard, install drivers, etc... It was amazing how long it took the players to get set up before each match! I guess the computers just kept crashing or having difficulties every time someone tried a new keyboard or something.

I think the long delay between matches had more to do with technical difficulties while players were setting up than purposeful video intros and caster small talk.

On July 09 2011 16:30 pwnopotamus wrote:
Just got back from the live event at Ontario Convention Center and I wanted to share my thoughts regarding the long delays due to player intros before each match.

We didn't see any of the intros at the convention center. It seemed like the casters were just stalling for time as the players got situated and set up. I assume there was some sort of video package that the stream got to watch during this time. I never got the feeling we were waiting on a video to finish before the match starting. I think the main reason everything took so long was because the players needed to set up their mouse/keyboard, install drivers, etc... It was amazing how long it took the players to get set up before each match! I guess the computers just kept crashing or having difficulties every time someone tried a new keyboard or something.

I think the long delay between matches had more to do with technical difficulties while players were setting up than purposeful video intros and caster small talk.

On July 09 2011 16:26 JBright wrote:

All the MLG events so far are like qualifiers for the national championship at the end of the year, which has the same 1st prize as the NASL.

But the communication: Really, you can't hype things up like this and then have such a bad showing. With all that money involved, I don't see the issue of hiring one or two people who are experienced in running such big events.
And why do I have to wait for two hours? Nobody told me. Nobody ever said when it would start after all that delay. I didnt hear an apology either when the tournament finally began.
And that is something I do not like.

do you remember the gsl world championships? there wasn't as much uproar over the tournament format when players such as white-ra, sen, moonglade, morrow, and jinro got eliminated in a single bo3 in a 16 player single elimination tournament. all those players were also flown to korea.

On July 09 2011 16:30 DarkMatter_ wrote:

Alive vs. Darkforce games 2 and 3. Didn't watch the last two Bo3s so I'm not sure about them. Don't bother with the rest unless you like seeing foreigners getting horribly outclassed.