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Jarrito
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
July 09 2011 07:01 GMT
#21221
Just wanted to say that it's quite unfortunate that the stream has been having some problems but I can confidently say that everyone here at the live event, including myself, is having a damn incredible time. Thanks out to everyone from the NASL that helped put this on, hopefully you've all learned from this rough first experience and I'm sure with all the constructive criticism you've all been receiving, NASL season 2 will be a lot better. Fortunately for us here, the most important part (the games) are very exciting. Thank you!
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
July 09 2011 07:01 GMT
#21222
North American Star League no longer has North Americans in it.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 07:02:29
July 09 2011 07:02 GMT
#21223
On July 09 2011 15:46 Duravi wrote:
You may call me spoiled, but I expect a similar level of quality out of all the sporting events I pay for. I pay for EPL, I pay for NFL, I pay for GSL, and this past season I paid for NASL. After a terrible season they start off in the tournament with much of the same problems they had before it. When you run a business you don't hire your fucking friends, you hire competent people. NASL does not understand this. Every tournament I have seen Xeris be associated with has been a joke in terms of organization, why would anyone hire this guy? I will continue to support the good events (GSL, MLG after columbus, dreamhack, etc...) but for ESPORTS to grow shit like this actually has to die.

No thats a normal reaction. Just vote with your dollars next time. I'm a poor college student and read about tournaments before I shell out the cash. GSL is always good so I'm willing to buy from day 1, however I didnt buy HSC until day 2 based on raving reviews here and never purchased NASL due to ongoing poor reviews here. Limited cash = has to be "worth" it to a higher level for me.
MC for president
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
July 09 2011 07:02 GMT
#21224
On July 09 2011 16:00 Xevious wrote:
Honestly I think they should just release free vods for today. That would justify everything imo, besides for a few butthurt people who are just butthurt because they couldn't see it "live."

This would be awesome. I wanted to watch today's games live but couldn't :[
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 09 2011 07:05 GMT
#21225
No thats a normal reaction. Just vote with your dollars next time. I'm a poor college student and re about tournaments before I shell out the cash. GSL is always good so I'm willing to buy from day 1, however I didnt buy HSC until day 2 based on raving reviews here and never purchased NASL due to ongoing poor reviews here. Limited cash = has to be "worth" it to a higher level for me.


Problem is right now a lot of people buy just off hype or this whole "support ESPORTS" thing going around. I would encourage people to specifically not buy NASL season 2, make them improve first, and get rid of Xeris as well. If you want something to get better you have to 100% vote with your wallet, you are absolutely right in that regard.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 09 2011 07:07 GMT
#21226
On July 09 2011 16:01 Jarrito wrote:
Just wanted to say that it's quite unfortunate that the stream has been having some problems but I can confidently say that everyone here at the live event, including myself, is having a damn incredible time. Thanks out to everyone from the NASL that helped put this on, hopefully you've all learned from this rough first experience and I'm sure with all the constructive criticism you've all been receiving, NASL season 2 will be a lot better. Fortunately for us here, the most important part (the games) are very exciting. Thank you!

Really? another guy commented in the thread that the projectors sucked and gave them a headache.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
July 09 2011 07:08 GMT
#21227
On July 09 2011 15:15 Morta wrote:
Even the Homestory Cup was better then this mess,seriously(and that was made in a flat with less people!).Actually HSC was awesome,here and there a little little problem but NOTHING against this mess right here. >.<


Production of HSC was awesome. Great cameras and angles, top notch sound, well organized, colaboration with a pub. They had a tiny budget compared to NASL and most of the crew weren't even professionals and they still made it run so smoothly.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 09 2011 07:09 GMT
#21228
Ehh, win some lose some, im just happy that we are getting such nice games :3
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 09 2011 07:10 GMT
#21229
On July 09 2011 15:07 Darathor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 15:04 Pyre wrote:
MC said easy win vs select

Did you not watch the MC vs. Select game in the NASL?

Select won the first game pretty easily, thus making sure he would stay on top of his division, and then ran around making nukes. Saying MC will just roll over him is just laughable.


He beat select easilly at MLG 2-0 when the match actually mattered for both players and was LAN.

Both players were obviously dicking around in the NASL game (even though MC did win 2-1) so I wouldn't read much into that.

Losthorn
Profile Joined June 2010
Georgia351 Posts
July 09 2011 07:11 GMT
#21230
Why the hell is this not double elimination??? This makes no sense.........
White-Ra "no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks"
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
July 09 2011 07:13 GMT
#21231
Yes, it does.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
July 09 2011 07:14 GMT
#21232
On July 09 2011 16:08 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 15:15 Morta wrote:
Even the Homestory Cup was better then this mess,seriously(and that was made in a flat with less people!).Actually HSC was awesome,here and there a little little problem but NOTHING against this mess right here. >.<


Production of HSC was awesome. Great cameras and angles, top notch sound, well organized, colaboration with a pub. They had a tiny budget compared to NASL and most of the crew weren't even professionals and they still made it run so smoothly.


You forgot to mention that HSC had years of experience and knowhow of ESL TV behind them.
GSL has years of experience in doing live events
MLG has experience now cause the have learned on their mistakes
Dreamhack has experience because they have been doing this for quite some time
NASL has experience because... of wait they don't because this is their first major live event

Just give them some slack - they will improve and stop hating without considering the whole picture.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 07:15:37
July 09 2011 07:14 GMT
#21233
Please people I encourage you. DO NOT PAY for NASL season two. Whatever you say here will fall on deaf ears, your subscriptions are your true vote. If you actually want them to get better you have to put financial pressure on them.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 09 2011 07:16 GMT
#21234
On July 09 2011 16:14 Duravi wrote:
Please people I encourage you. DO NOT PAY for NASL season two. Whatever you say here will fall on deaf ears, your subscriptions are your true vote. If you actually want them to get better you have to put financial pressure on them.

Actually, I'm pretty sure financial pressure = no more NASL.
Tanith
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom108 Posts
July 09 2011 07:16 GMT
#21235
flying people hundreds of miles for 1 bo3 is stupid, they need to change the format!
lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
July 09 2011 07:16 GMT
#21236
On July 09 2011 16:14 Duravi wrote:
Please people I encourage you. DO NOT PAY for NASL season two. Whatever you say here will fall on deaf ears, your subscriptions are your true vote. If you actually want them to get better you have to put financial pressure on them.


Dude wtf? Have you watched any of the regular season? Do you have any idea how massively they improved from week 1 to week 4 even? They are absolutely listening.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
July 09 2011 07:16 GMT
#21237
The MC vs Boxer games showed everyone some important things.

Game 1: Adding just one voidray to a 3 gate greatly increases its potency. And since you are only making one, you are essentially only producing from those 3 gates after the void comes out so you will soon have enough money to take an expo as well! Very nice pressure build from MC there, and great answer to a 2 rax. And since Boxer took his expo early (and at his natural), he wasn't prepared.

Game 2: Making 10+ ghosts is VERY good vs toss. For most of the game, Boxer had half as many bases as MC and was still holding his own in battles by just EMPing the crap out of everything. As a toss, I've always worried that terrans would start to use them more. Apparently Boxer is ahead of the curve in that respect. Many ghosts mixed in with your bio are the perfect answer to zealot + archon, and if boxer had secured equal bases in that game he would have had a great chance to win.
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 09 2011 07:18 GMT
#21238
On July 09 2011 15:24 tdt wrote:
MC was being nice to boxer.
-poor army control, 50/50 while attacking main for example
-no observer, MC always builds tons to spot/feedback Ghosts and keep tabs on army
-No taking out gold he knew was there
-No marching in a killing him letting him re macro up many times
- no celebration, MC always celebrates.

Sadly, I completely agree with this. MC stopped making high templars to feedback ghosts. He just sat there and absorbed EMPs. After he killed almost all of boxer's army he just fell back and let boxer walk to his bases. He just stayed at 200 food and just kept running into boxer's army never going for the death blow. I think he respects boxer enough to make the games look close to try to keep him from being embarrassed, but that's just my opinion
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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 07:28:48
July 09 2011 07:18 GMT
#21239
Dude wtf? Have you watched any of the regular season? Do you have any idea how massively they improved from week 1 to week 4 even? They are absolutely listening.


yes I actually paid for it. well they did improve they had several problems all season that continue to show their face in the end of season tournament. it has been nowhere near the turnaround MLG had at any point this season. improving from terrible to slightly below average is not something I want to recognize as legitimate improvement, if you do, continue to send money Xeris' and NASL's way next season!
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 07:20:27
July 09 2011 07:20 GMT
#21240
Flying all those players to America out for a single BO3 is a joke, either add double elimination or at least make it a bo5.
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