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schben
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 16:25:38
July 04 2011 16:23 GMT
#41
Here is my personal list of EU-teams that should have a chance to qualify:
-Empire: good 1v1 (Nerchio / Kas / Diestar / Happy / Beastyqt) and great 2v2 (Cubert+Aristeo).
-Millenium: Dont know much about the but they should have a decent chance to qualify.
-MYM: They definitely did not play their best last season, but cloud not being able to play makes it very hard for them.
-Alternate: good 1v1 players (Socke / Darkforce / Delphi) and Socke+Darkforce played quite a few 2v2s together.

Teams with a small chance:
-ImbaFXO: I only know Strelok and Lowely but maybe they have some unknown talent.
-Virus: I dont think they are on one level with teams like Empire.
-Roxkis: I think only Bratok can threaten the big teams.

I hope I didnt forget a big Team.

e: What are the big american teams that might qualify?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14107 Posts
July 04 2011 16:36 GMT
#42
I'm calling it right now Empire wins in EU and Reign Wins in NA with Liquid not attending again for obvious reasons.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
July 04 2011 16:37 GMT
#43
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.

Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.

And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.

And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 18:28:31
July 04 2011 18:25 GMT
#44
I imagine FXO will apply for the NA qualifier (they have Sheth, Slog, QXC and no Europeans) and they have a good chance to take it over Reign (or Vile and whoever else gets in).
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
July 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#45
Would love to see Empire and Alternate in the qualifier.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 04 2011 19:05 GMT
#46
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.


I would imagine that contacting all the players, working out the schedules and coming up with a decision is hardly a "matter of minutes".

If you understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, why do it like this then? One would think that understanding the difficulties teams might have with such a short notice would lead to the reasonable decision of not having such a short signup period in the first place.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 04 2011 19:45 GMT
#47
1 day before deadline? That seems...
Idiotic.
Ah well, this last season was full of awesomeness, so this should be really cool as well!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
July 04 2011 20:21 GMT
#48
On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.

Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.

And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.

And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.

I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 04 2011 20:29 GMT
#49
On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.

Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.

And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.

And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.

I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.


There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
July 04 2011 20:45 GMT
#50
On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:
On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.

Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.

And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.

And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.

I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.


There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).

There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#51
On July 05 2011 05:45 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:
On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:
On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.

Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.

And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.

And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.

I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.


There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).

There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.


There are formats that distribute the negative effects of cross server play evenly between the two teams so that one doesn't get the advantage in all 3 to 5 games just because they're based in the "preferred" region.

There may be no perfect solution, but there are fair methods of organizing a cross-server event.
Castrophy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
July 05 2011 03:53 GMT
#52
Hope my boys at Quantic try to get in. I'm sure if they do they would surprise a lot of people.
Colbi
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States535 Posts
July 06 2011 04:40 GMT
#53
I want to thank all teams that applied as this was a very difficult decision to make in terms of which teams to invite to each qualifier. Below are the teams that will be competing in each qualifier:

Europe
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] ESC.ICY-BOX
[image loading] imba.FXOpen
[image loading] Team Alternate
[image loading] Team Empire

Matchups
[image loading] Team Empire vs. [image loading] ESC.ICY-BOX
[image loading] Team Alternate vs. [image loading] imba.FXOpen

North America
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] CheckSix Gaming
[image loading] ItsGosu eSports
[image loading] FXOpen e-Sports
[image loading] Reign

Matchups
[image loading] FXOpen e-Sports vs. [image loading] CheckSix Gaming
[image loading] Reign vs. [image loading] ItsGosu eSports

The official maps for the qualifier will be announced within the next day.
Editor-in-Chief for Team EG - http://www.twitter.com/LColbi
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 06 2011 04:47 GMT
#54
On July 05 2011 12:34 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 05:45 lazyfeet wrote:
On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:
On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:
On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:
On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:
On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.

We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.

Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.

And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.

And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.

I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.


There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).

There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.


There are formats that distribute the negative effects of cross server play evenly between the two teams so that one doesn't get the advantage in all 3 to 5 games just because they're based in the "preferred" region.

There may be no perfect solution, but there are fair methods of organizing a cross-server event.


lol

This is EG's tournament, they can organize it how they see fit. They're putting up the cash. If European teams are unhappy with the way it is structured maybe they shouldn't join, or they should start their own league (EG and its sponsors are putting up the cash for these teams to earn).

When you run an event feel free to use whatever format you want, if players don't like it they can choose not to participate.
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
July 06 2011 04:54 GMT
#55
I hope to see FXO and Empire advance. Next season is going to be great, and can't wait to begin watching the games.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:04:40
July 06 2011 05:03 GMT
#56

+ Show Spoiler +
fxo counts as an na team?
@QxGDarkCell ._.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:08:17
July 06 2011 05:05 GMT
#57
Don't mind me
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 06 2011 05:09 GMT
#58
On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
fxo counts as an na team?


Well they are more accurately a SEA team right? So I guess it would make more sense to make them NA than EU in that case.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:10:46
July 06 2011 05:10 GMT
#59
On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
fxo counts as an na team?


Sheth, QXC, SLoG are American, Optikzero and Anthony (if he's still even there?) are Canadian, and Moonan although Korean lives in America. That leaves Oz (Korean) and Tgun and Moonglade (Australian). That's not North American enough for you?
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
July 06 2011 05:12 GMT
#60
Empire and Reign fighting!
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
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