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Here is my personal list of EU-teams that should have a chance to qualify: -Empire: good 1v1 (Nerchio / Kas / Diestar / Happy / Beastyqt) and great 2v2 (Cubert+Aristeo). -Millenium: Dont know much about the but they should have a decent chance to qualify. -MYM: They definitely did not play their best last season, but cloud not being able to play makes it very hard for them. -Alternate: good 1v1 players (Socke / Darkforce / Delphi) and Socke+Darkforce played quite a few 2v2s together.
Teams with a small chance: -ImbaFXO: I only know Strelok and Lowely but maybe they have some unknown talent. -Virus: I dont think they are on one level with teams like Empire. -Roxkis: I think only Bratok can threaten the big teams.
I hope I didnt forget a big Team.
e: What are the big american teams that might qualify?
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I'm calling it right now Empire wins in EU and Reign Wins in NA with Liquid not attending again for obvious reasons.
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On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.
And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.
And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.
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I imagine FXO will apply for the NA qualifier (they have Sheth, Slog, QXC and no Europeans) and they have a good chance to take it over Reign (or Vile and whoever else gets in).
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Would love to see Empire and Alternate in the qualifier.
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On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.
I would imagine that contacting all the players, working out the schedules and coming up with a decision is hardly a "matter of minutes".
If you understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, why do it like this then? One would think that understanding the difficulties teams might have with such a short notice would lead to the reasonable decision of not having such a short signup period in the first place.
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1 day before deadline? That seems... Idiotic. Ah well, this last season was full of awesomeness, so this should be really cool as well!
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On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.
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On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.
There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).
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On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here. There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams). There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.
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On July 05 2011 05:45 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here. There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams). There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.
There are formats that distribute the negative effects of cross server play evenly between the two teams so that one doesn't get the advantage in all 3 to 5 games just because they're based in the "preferred" region.
There may be no perfect solution, but there are fair methods of organizing a cross-server event.
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Hope my boys at Quantic try to get in. I'm sure if they do they would surprise a lot of people.
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I want to thank all teams that applied as this was a very difficult decision to make in terms of which teams to invite to each qualifier. Below are the teams that will be competing in each qualifier:
Europe + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) ESC.ICY-BOX ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) imba.FXOpen ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) Team Alternate ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) Team Empire Matchups![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) Team Empire vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) ESC.ICY-BOX ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) Team Alternate vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) imba.FXOpen North America + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) CheckSix Gaming ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) ItsGosu eSports ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/au.png) FXOpen e-Sports ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) Reign Matchups![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/au.png) FXOpen e-Sports vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) CheckSix Gaming ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) Reign vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) ItsGosu eSports The official maps for the qualifier will be announced within the next day.
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On July 05 2011 12:34 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 05:45 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote: Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here. There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams). There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone. There are formats that distribute the negative effects of cross server play evenly between the two teams so that one doesn't get the advantage in all 3 to 5 games just because they're based in the "preferred" region. There may be no perfect solution, but there are fair methods of organizing a cross-server event.
lol
This is EG's tournament, they can organize it how they see fit. They're putting up the cash. If European teams are unhappy with the way it is structured maybe they shouldn't join, or they should start their own league (EG and its sponsors are putting up the cash for these teams to earn).
When you run an event feel free to use whatever format you want, if players don't like it they can choose not to participate.
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I hope to see FXO and Empire advance. Next season is going to be great, and can't wait to begin watching the games.
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On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote: + Show Spoiler + fxo counts as an na team? 
Well they are more accurately a SEA team right? So I guess it would make more sense to make them NA than EU in that case.
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On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote: + Show Spoiler + fxo counts as an na team? 
Sheth, QXC, SLoG are American, Optikzero and Anthony (if he's still even there?) are Canadian, and Moonan although Korean lives in America. That leaves Oz (Korean) and Tgun and Moonglade (Australian). That's not North American enough for you?
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Empire and Reign fighting!
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