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We're excited to officially announce Season VI of EG's Master's Cup Series League. However, before the final eight teams are announced we would like to give teams the opportunity of applying to become an official team of the tournament. Teams will now have the ability to apply to participate in one of two online qualifiers (North America and Europe). Four teams will be selected out of the applications to participate in each qualifier with the top team from each qualifier becoming the official MCSL team for Season VI.
To submit an application for your team you must e-mail lucas@myeg.net with your team's name, server, website, roster, and achievements and title the e-mail "MCSL Season VI Qualifier Application" without the quotes. We will choose four teams to particulate in each qualifier. One qualifier will be held on the North American server while the other will be held on Europe.
The deadline for submitting your team's application is July 5 by 11:59pm EDT.
Format:
- 4 Teams per Qualifier
- Single Elimination
- 3 best-of-3 1v1 matches and 1 best-of-3 2v2
- If there's a tie, a 1v1 best-of-3 ACE match will be played to determine a winner
- Official maps are TBD.
Dates:
Wednesday, July 6 - Sunday, July 10.
IMPORTANT: Each team in the qualifiers is responsible for organizing their matches with their opponents. A winner for each qualifier must be named by July 9.
I want to encourage all interested teams to apply for Season VI before the deadline. If you have any additional questions please feel free to e-mail me at lucas@myeg.net.
Update: Below are the teams that will participate in each qualifier:
Europe
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) ESC.ICY-BOX ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) imba.FXOpen Team Alternate Team Empire Matchups Team Empire vs. ESC.ICY-BOX Team Alternate vs. imba.FXOpen
North America
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) CheckSix Gaming ItsGosu eSports ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/au.png) FXOpen e-Sports Reign Matchups FXOpen e-Sports vs. CheckSix Gaming Reign vs. ItsGosu eSports
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nice  really enjoying this tournament
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Do the teams from the last season playoffs automatically qualify?
Will it continue to be eight teams or become twelve?
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On July 04 2011 07:16 Mordiford wrote:
Do the teams from the last season playoffs automatically qualify?
Will it continue to be eight teams or become twelve?
Yes.
It will remain eight teams.
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On July 04 2011 07:20 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 07:16 Mordiford wrote:
Do the teams from the last season playoffs automatically qualify?
Will it continue to be eight teams or become twelve?
Yes. It will remain eight teams.
Oh alright, I read it as 4 teams from each qualifier as opposed to 4 teams for each qualifier.
So 4 teams will come out of the qualifiers and 4 teams will auto-qualify from this season's playoffs.
Am I right?
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Nice to see a new season. Love the teamtournaments
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is there any changes in the format for the next season or is it going to look the same basically? i love the tournament btw, keep it up EG
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On July 04 2011 07:27 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 07:20 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 07:16 Mordiford wrote:
Do the teams from the last season playoffs automatically qualify?
Will it continue to be eight teams or become twelve?
Yes. It will remain eight teams. Oh alright, I read it as 4 teams from each qualifier as opposed to 4 teams for each qualifier. So 4 teams will come out of the qualifiers and 4 teams will auto-qualify from this season's playoffs. Am I right?
Only the top team from each qualifier. I think the bottom two from the current season drop out.
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On July 04 2011 07:27 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 07:20 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 07:16 Mordiford wrote:
Do the teams from the last season playoffs automatically qualify?
Will it continue to be eight teams or become twelve?
Yes. It will remain eight teams. Oh alright, I read it as 4 teams from each qualifier as opposed to 4 teams for each qualifier. So 4 teams will come out of the qualifiers and 4 teams will auto-qualify from this season's playoffs. Am I right?
The top six teams from the previous season automatically qualify while the bottom two teams drop out. The 1st place team from each qualifier will earn one of the spots.
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On July 04 2011 07:30 busbarn wrote:is there any changes in the format for the next season or is it going to look the same basically? i love the tournament btw, keep it up EG
It's going to be a similar format with 3 1v1s (best-of-3) / 1 2v2 (best-of-3) and 1 ACE (best-of-3) if needed.
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Edit:
Nevermind, Colbi cleared it up, thanks Colbi...
Great work this season, looking forward to the next season.
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Hopefully we get to see lots of teams signing up for this...the likes of Empire, imba.FXO, Reign, vile, etc all worthy of the team league.
What about the bottom teams, like MyM? Are they allowed to try and requalify?
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On July 04 2011 07:41 Ruscour wrote:
Hopefully we get to see lots of teams signing up for this...the likes of Empire, imba.FXO, Reign, vile, etc all worthy of the team league.
What about the bottom teams, like MyM? Are they allowed to try and requalify?
Yes, both MYM and Millenium are welcome to submit an application.
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Will these games be broadcasted?
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Canada1637 Posts
Hmm, only 2 spots, this is going to be pretty competitive I think, would've loved to see the league expanded to 10 teams!
Wonder if Liquid will want to join in xD.
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This is awesome news! Hopefully a new season means more Miniwheat appearances!
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Would love liquid to apply. Probably dont have the players atm with huk and jinro in korea and tlo unable to play. Such a shame. 
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Good luck to everyone who applies.
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So top 4 teams from the current EGMC qualify and 4 spots are open for qualifiers?
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On July 04 2011 14:40 Xeris wrote:
So top 4 teams from the current EGMC qualify and 4 spots are open for qualifiers?
6 and 2. Looking forward to Sixjax rolling you in the name of vengeance!
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On July 04 2011 14:40 Xeris wrote:
So top 4 teams from the current EGMC qualify and 4 spots are open for qualifiers?
Top 6 are in, 1 new na and 1 new eu team to qualify in according to colbi
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On July 04 2011 06:56 Colbi wrote:
To submit an application for your team you must e-mail lucas@myeg.net with your team's name, server, website, roster, and achievements and title the e-mail "MCSL Season VI Qualifier Application" without the quotes. We will choose four teams to particulate in each qualifier. One qualifier will be held on the North American server while the other will be held on Europe.
Can any team particulate in this qualifier or is it just known/sponsored teams?
+ Show Spoiler +had to troll
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8 teams are not enough!
Make it a 16 team league please!
Edit: At least 12...
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I think Millenium and Empire can really qualify, since mille didnt have luck last time (how many losses 3-2...) Nerchio and Stephano are actually the best european zergs, they really deserve to show this.
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Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.
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On July 04 2011 17:29 tyCe wrote:8 teams are not enough! Make it a 16 team league please! Edit: At least 12...
We're seriously considering the idea of adding additional teams in the future.
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On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great.
We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.
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you seem to forget i'm on there
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Yet two European teams fell out of the series, so Season VI is going to introduce an NA team at the expense of a European slot. Not sure how I feel about that, given that the EU server is universally acknowledged as the more difficult server.
If Empire enters, they will definitely win, (wait, why were they snubbed last season?) but that leaves out MYM, Millenium, Ai, and some other good teams. While the NA qualifier will probably bring in Reign or GoSu, and I can't say I'd expect either of those teams to be favorites against some of the European squads that won't be included.
Why not make this league a twelve team league? Eight teams is too few, twelve would get just about all of the good teams out there, but still have some competition for the final spots.
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On July 04 2011 23:39 tree.hugger wrote:
Yet two European teams fell out of the series, so Season VI is going to introduce an NA team at the expense of a European slot. Not sure how I feel about that, given that the EU server is universally acknowledged as the more difficult server.
If Empire enters, they will definitely win, (wait, why were they snubbed last season?) but that leaves out MYM, Millenium, Ai, and some other good teams. While the NA qualifier will probably bring in Reign or GoSu, and I can't say I'd expect either of those teams to be favorites against some of the European squads that won't be included.
Why not make this league a twelve team league? Eight teams is too few, twelve would get just about all of the good teams out there, but still have some competition for the final spots.
Agree, 12 teams would be much better.. Then if they still want the season to last 7weeks they could pick randomly 7 teams for each team instead of playing all 11 other teams.
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As Colbi said: they consider having more teams in future seasons. Just give them some time and enjoy season 6 with "only" 8 teams. God like I hate people always complaining about everything.If they didn't do it this time, that definitely have a reason. Just accept it!
And even with 12 places, you could not give every good team a place in it. Every team has a chance to qualify ... so let's see who get's the spots
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Completely open qualifiers would be cool with more notice, but well done getting this up on what was obviously short notice as I am a fan of qualifiers even if they are invite-only qualifiers!
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On July 04 2011 23:39 tree.hugger wrote:
Yet two European teams fell out of the series, so Season VI is going to introduce an NA team at the expense of a European slot. Not sure how I feel about that, given that the EU server is universally acknowledged as the more difficult server.
If Empire enters, they will definitely win, (wait, why were they snubbed last season?) but that leaves out MYM, Millenium, Ai, and some other good teams. While the NA qualifier will probably bring in Reign or GoSu, and I can't say I'd expect either of those teams to be favorites against some of the European squads that won't be included.
Why not make this league a twelve team league? Eight teams is too few, twelve would get just about all of the good teams out there, but still have some competition for the final spots.
I agree that European teams in general seem stronger, but if two Euro teams fell out of the league, whose fault is that? MYM and Millenium had their shot, with the former getting shellshocked, I'm not sure that MYM is "deserving" of a spot. And Millenium played decently, but yeah.
Reign on the other hand, is a very strong team. You look at Kiwi/Slush and you've already got a fierce two 1v1s and an ACE in Kiwi (assuming he has the time, based on the fact he's going to WSOP I feel like Reign may not be as scary), I think they're scarier than any of the European teams outside of Empire. And if Team Liquid ever resolves the issue regarding server play or whatnot, I feel like they could also be scary (don't know if they'd do NA or EU, I'd assume NA though).
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On July 05 2011 00:16 Magicpop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 23:39 tree.hugger wrote:
Yet two European teams fell out of the series, so Season VI is going to introduce an NA team at the expense of a European slot. Not sure how I feel about that, given that the EU server is universally acknowledged as the more difficult server.
If Empire enters, they will definitely win, (wait, why were they snubbed last season?) but that leaves out MYM, Millenium, Ai, and some other good teams. While the NA qualifier will probably bring in Reign or GoSu, and I can't say I'd expect either of those teams to be favorites against some of the European squads that won't be included.
Why not make this league a twelve team league? Eight teams is too few, twelve would get just about all of the good teams out there, but still have some competition for the final spots. Agree, 12 teams would be much better.. Then if they still want the season to last 7weeks they could pick randomly 7 teams for each team instead of playing all 11 other teams.
I think 8 is fine. Too be honest I don't think 4 more teams will bring in 33% more viewers and won't make the league 33% percent more entertaining, but you will have to pay casters more and teams more for having to fight through all of that.
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I hope you guys adopt the all kill format, or at least put serious considerations towards it. (granted you'll probably have to let go of the Bo3 format which understandably you wouldn't want to, or else one player would have to play waaaay too many games) Anyways, I really enjoyed last season, here's to another good season.
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On July 05 2011 01:07 tooPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 00:16 Magicpop wrote:On July 04 2011 23:39 tree.hugger wrote:
Yet two European teams fell out of the series, so Season VI is going to introduce an NA team at the expense of a European slot. Not sure how I feel about that, given that the EU server is universally acknowledged as the more difficult server.
If Empire enters, they will definitely win, (wait, why were they snubbed last season?) but that leaves out MYM, Millenium, Ai, and some other good teams. While the NA qualifier will probably bring in Reign or GoSu, and I can't say I'd expect either of those teams to be favorites against some of the European squads that won't be included.
Why not make this league a twelve team league? Eight teams is too few, twelve would get just about all of the good teams out there, but still have some competition for the final spots. Agree, 12 teams would be much better.. Then if they still want the season to last 7weeks they could pick randomly 7 teams for each team instead of playing all 11 other teams. I think 8 is fine. Too be honest I don't think 4 more teams will bring in 33% more viewers and won't make the league 33% percent more entertaining, but you will have to pay casters more and teams more for having to fight through all of that.
Having 33% more matches and therefore hopefully 33% more viewers is enough. More importantly though, is that a bigger league - possibly 12 or 16 - would make the competition more prestigious in the sense that it is THE team league outside Korea. I am aware that the SPL never had 12-16 teams, but then the SC2 world is a much bigger place with more teams than BW Korea.
If this tournament expands, it can really establish itself as the premier team event, and possibly the biggest event in international SC2. Surveys have already shown that people are more interested in team competitions than individual competitions, but we are just lacking a tournament with the courage and infrastructure to accommodate it.
Still, I don't like the fact that EG runs the team league, but there's no choice since no 3rd party has been willing to take that responsibility so far. Hopefully, EG can sell the competition for big bucks in the future and just partake as participants.
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Here is my personal list of EU-teams that should have a chance to qualify:
-Empire: good 1v1 (Nerchio / Kas / Diestar / Happy / Beastyqt) and great 2v2 (Cubert+Aristeo).
-Millenium: Dont know much about the but they should have a decent chance to qualify.
-MYM: They definitely did not play their best last season, but cloud not being able to play makes it very hard for them.
-Alternate: good 1v1 players (Socke / Darkforce / Delphi) and Socke+Darkforce played quite a few 2v2s together.
Teams with a small chance:
-ImbaFXO: I only know Strelok and Lowely but maybe they have some unknown talent.
-Virus: I dont think they are on one level with teams like Empire.
-Roxkis: I think only Bratok can threaten the big teams.
I hope I didnt forget a big Team.
e: What are the big american teams that might qualify?
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I'm calling it right now Empire wins in EU and Reign Wins in NA with Liquid not attending again for obvious reasons.
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On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.
Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations.
And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie.
And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.
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I imagine FXO will apply for the NA qualifier (they have Sheth, Slog, QXC and no Europeans) and they have a good chance to take it over Reign (or Vile and whoever else gets in).
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Would love to see Empire and Alternate in the qualifier.
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On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply.
I would imagine that contacting all the players, working out the schedules and coming up with a decision is hardly a "matter of minutes".
If you understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, why do it like this then? One would think that understanding the difficulties teams might have with such a short notice would lead to the reasonable decision of not having such a short signup period in the first place.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
1 day before deadline? That seems...
Idiotic.
Ah well, this last season was full of awesomeness, so this should be really cool as well!
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On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season.
I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.
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On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here.
There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).
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On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here. There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams).
There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.
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On July 05 2011 05:45 lazyfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here. There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams). There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone.
There are formats that distribute the negative effects of cross server play evenly between the two teams so that one doesn't get the advantage in all 3 to 5 games just because they're based in the "preferred" region.
There may be no perfect solution, but there are fair methods of organizing a cross-server event.
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Hope my boys at Quantic try to get in. I'm sure if they do they would surprise a lot of people.
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I want to thank all teams that applied as this was a very difficult decision to make in terms of which teams to invite to each qualifier. Below are the teams that will be competing in each qualifier:
Europe
+ Show Spoiler + ESC.ICY-BOX imba.FXOpen Team Alternate Team Empire Matchups Team Empire vs. ESC.ICY-BOX Team Alternate vs. imba.FXOpen
North America
+ Show Spoiler + CheckSix Gaming ItsGosu eSports FXOpen e-Sports Reign Matchups FXOpen e-Sports vs. CheckSix Gaming Reign vs. ItsGosu eSports
The official maps for the qualifier will be announced within the next day.
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On July 05 2011 12:34 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 05:45 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 05:29 Talin wrote:On July 05 2011 05:21 lazyfeet wrote:On July 05 2011 01:37 ComusLoM wrote:On July 04 2011 23:24 Colbi wrote:On July 04 2011 22:04 ComusLoM wrote:
Wow this is so unprofessional as has been expected from EG MCSL's management when it comes to teams. 1 days notice? Really? I really hope all the top teams have been notified of this at least 2 weeks before this "announcement" but I doubt that will be the case. It's a shame because everything on the broadcast side is great. We understand that teams don't have much time before the deadline, but it only takes a matter of minutes to apply. Wow. Please put more effort in next season. It may only take teams "a matter of minutes" to apply. What happens if their managers are unavailable, or if no one sees the announcements during this tiny space of time they miss out on a big, if poorly run opportunity. You guys need to improve on your public and team relations. And for gods sake apologise about your initial statement last season regarding teamliquid. I agree with all the points you made in your defence about that statement. If they had any relevance. There's a difference between straight up lying and simply representing your own side. You guys did the former, and then bitched about a backlash. It's amazing how easy it is to prevent backlash like this just present the facts at the cost of 30 seconds, don't lie. And there's clearly something going on here too. Announcing a team tournament that's going to be over in like 3 days with registration for a day is plainly just insane and shows a complete lack of knowledge of planning team based events. Please god try to improve on this next season. I don't know why should they apologise to teamliquid? Liquid team doesn't agree with the rules so they choose not to participate. It is a matter of choice nobody to blame here. There's also a matter of choice between the rules that favor NA teams and rules that are fair for all competitors (especially if you're INVITING non-NA teams). There is no fair rules in cross server tournaments. You can't please everyone with different location and time zone. There are formats that distribute the negative effects of cross server play evenly between the two teams so that one doesn't get the advantage in all 3 to 5 games just because they're based in the "preferred" region. There may be no perfect solution, but there are fair methods of organizing a cross-server event.
lol
This is EG's tournament, they can organize it how they see fit. They're putting up the cash. If European teams are unhappy with the way it is structured maybe they shouldn't join, or they should start their own league (EG and its sponsors are putting up the cash for these teams to earn).
When you run an event feel free to use whatever format you want, if players don't like it they can choose not to participate.
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I hope to see FXO and Empire advance. Next season is going to be great, and can't wait to begin watching the games.
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On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote:+ Show Spoiler + fxo counts as an na team? 
Well they are more accurately a SEA team right? So I guess it would make more sense to make them NA than EU in that case.
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On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote:+ Show Spoiler + fxo counts as an na team?
Sheth, QXC, SLoG are American, Optikzero and Anthony (if he's still even there?) are Canadian, and Moonan although Korean lives in America. That leaves Oz (Korean) and Tgun and Moonglade (Australian). That's not North American enough for you?
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Empire and Reign fighting!
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On July 06 2011 14:10 Ansalem wrote:Sheth, QXC, SLoG are American, Optikzero and Anthony (if he's still even there?) are Canadian, and Moonan although Korean lives in America. That leaves Oz (Korean) and Tgun and Moonglade (Australian). That's not North American enough for you?
How is any of that relevant? If suddenly Wemadefox gets 4 NA players in the roster it becomes a North American team because their sc2 team has majority americans?
FCPorto won the Europa league with more brazilians than portuguese players in their team. Doesn't stop them from being a Portuguese team.
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On July 06 2011 14:16 Rayansaki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 14:10 Ansalem wrote:On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote:+ Show Spoiler + fxo counts as an na team? Sheth, QXC, SLoG are American, Optikzero and Anthony (if he's still even there?) are Canadian, and Moonan although Korean lives in America. That leaves Oz (Korean) and Tgun and Moonglade (Australian). That's not North American enough for you? How is any of that relevant? If suddenly Wemadefox gets 4 NA players in the roster it becomes a North American team because their sc2 team has majority americans? FCPorto won the Europa league with more brazilians than portuguese players in their team. Doesn't stop them from being a Portuguese team.
Then I would have no problem with them being in the North American qualifier for the league either. Which is what this is about, friend.
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On July 06 2011 14:16 Rayansaki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 14:10 Ansalem wrote:On July 06 2011 14:03 Dark.Carnival wrote:+ Show Spoiler + fxo counts as an na team? Sheth, QXC, SLoG are American, Optikzero and Anthony (if he's still even there?) are Canadian, and Moonan although Korean lives in America. That leaves Oz (Korean) and Tgun and Moonglade (Australian). That's not North American enough for you? How is any of that relevant? If suddenly Wemadefox gets 4 NA players in the roster it becomes a North American team because their sc2 team has majority americans? FCPorto won the Europa league with more brazilians than portuguese players in their team. Doesn't stop them from being a Portuguese team.
That's because that team is specifically based around the city of Porto, in sports where the name of the team comes from the location of it's base, it's kind of different from Starcraft where this is not the case.
Also, yes if WeMadeFox because majority North American, then I would likely consider them a North American team provided those players still intended to base themselves outside of NA. Discounting this Korea trip, which is just that for a number of their players, a trip for training and exposure purposes, the majority of their team is based out of North America and competes regularly in North American events.
There is no strict measure for regional attribution in Starcraft 2 when it comes to teams that have players spread all over the globe, I'd say basing it on the region of the majority of their roster is quite fair.
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If you say FXO is an NA team based on the majority of the players or an Australian team based on where it was based/founded it wouldn't really matter because both options obviously fit in the NA qualifier. Remember all Australian (SEA) SC2 accounts include access to the NA server.
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On July 06 2011 16:30 deL wrote:
If you say FXO is an NA team based on the majority of the players or an Australian team based on where it was based/founded it wouldn't really matter because both options obviously fit in the NA qualifier. Remember all Australian (SEA) SC2 accounts include access to the NA server.
Quoted for Truth
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OMG, I hope Empire takes the crap out of this one. Can't really see their line-up losing matches to some of the American teams like Checksix and ItsGosu.
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On July 06 2011 16:37 kalany wrote:
OMG, I hope Empire takes the crap out of this one. Can't really see their line-up losing matches to some of the American teams like Checksix and ItsGosu.
Yeah Empire is a pretty tough team, but they won't be matched up with the NA teams
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wow only 1 team from each?
if two guns were put to my head and i had to choose i'd say alternate (although empire is just as close) and FXO (although reign is just as close)
too hard to solidly predict one team to win their group!
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On July 06 2011 19:42 RyanRushia wrote:
too hard to solidly predict one team to win their group!
No it's not! FXO FXO FXO!
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Empire and FXOpen fighting!
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Honestly I don't know who can take out Empire lol. Kas/Happy/Beastyqt/Nerchio is an extremely tough lineup to beat. they also have a dedicated 2v2 team so they can win that too xD
EDIT: Too bad naniwa left the team lol, that would literally be almost an impossible team to win against.
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I really hope Alternate is going to make it.
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I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG.
Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline?
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On July 06 2011 19:42 RyanRushia wrote:
wow only 1 team from each?
if two guns were put to my head and i had to choose i'd say alternate (although empire is just as close) and FXO (although reign is just as close)
too hard to solidly predict one team to win their group!
I dunno about alternate, the only really good players are Socke and Delphi, but Empire has Kas, Happy AND Nerchio or Beastyqt
On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline?
TL had some Discussion, because there players are in Korea, Tyler had a full explanation on SOTG some time back
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Liquid didn't agree on the "all games on NA" rule, so they chose note to participate in the first season, I guess that this is still valid.
I also think that Millenium didn't apply again because of that, seeing how their players often complained about the lag.
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On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline?
goes back to last season, TL is not going to be participating
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2bad there's no millenium nor team liquid :-(
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On July 07 2011 04:11 FinnGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 19:42 RyanRushia wrote:
wow only 1 team from each?
if two guns were put to my head and i had to choose i'd say alternate (although empire is just as close) and FXO (although reign is just as close)
too hard to solidly predict one team to win their group! I dunno about alternate, the only really good players are Socke and Delphi, but Empire has Kas, Happy AND Nerchio or Beastyqt Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline? TL had some Discussion, because there players are in Korea, Tyler had a full explanation on SOTG some time back
It makes sense though. It's not very practical assembling players at all these different time zones.
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On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline?
Mystik took out demuslim at MLG, just saying =]
and this: http://esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=2099560
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On July 07 2011 05:30 rbkl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline? Mystik took out demuslim at MLG, just saying =] and this: http://esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=2099560
I saw those games and as well as Mystik played. Demuslim had zero map control the whole time and really let Mystik dictate the flow of the game with the Muta harass. Demuslim was out-expanded by far and he was just hoping to crush Mystik's army by turtling up to 200 food.
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On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline?
Ironically, Shadow was the only one who lost in yesterday's clan match.
It will be interesting to see who comes out on top in these qualifiers as I think all the NA teams are quite even at the moment.
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Any ideas if this will be casted at all, and if so when? Thanks.
Besides that, Checksix fightingggggggggg~~~!!!!!1!!!! :p
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On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline?
mkengyn is also really good =] underrated player
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Propably Liquid cannot participate in clan wars with two members training full-time in Korea and TLO out due to injury. There's only Ret,Haypro and Tyler left,how are they gonna pull the whole event?
I'm rooting for Empire to advance,they have really good players and I'm sure they will be the pleasant surprise of the season if they manage to qualify,
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On July 07 2011 10:16 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline? mkengyn is also really good =] underrated player
mkengyn is also a very good player indeed.
With gosu signing HwangSin, only checksix doesn't have a korean on their roster in the NA division.
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I think Reign has a good chance of advancing in the NA qualifiers. It would be pretty interesting to see coL vs RGN.
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On July 07 2011 11:15 -Jacob- wrote:
Who is on ItsGosu?
Guys like
Pokebunny
Gatored
Kyhol
Hwangsin
They are formerly All4one gaming.
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On July 07 2011 11:15 -Jacob- wrote:
Who is on ItsGosu?
3 of their players are on the top 10 of the NA ladder right now.
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Don't forget that Empire, since they all the players are frome eastern eu, will really struggle to win matches, i can't get how they can win if they got 300 ping...
I'm also verry disapointed Millenium wasn't choose for qualifications, i cant believe players like Lalush (1st of both eu and na ladders for weeks), stephano (the best european zerg with Nerchio), Tarson, Diestar and Adel don't got their place. Can we have explanations on what did happen to them ? Why aren't they qualified ?
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On July 07 2011 11:49 uberism wrote:3 of their players are on the top 10 of the NA ladder right now.
Unfortunately the NA ladder is not all that good compared to EU/KR
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On July 07 2011 14:32 AIOL! wrote:
Don't forget that Empire, since they all the players are frome eastern eu, will really struggle to win matches, i can't get how they can win if they got 300 ping...
I'm also verry disapointed Millenium wasn't choose for qualifications, i cant believe players like Lalush (1st of both eu and na ladders for weeks), stephano (the best european zerg with Nerchio), Tarson, Diestar and Adel don't got their place. Can we have explanations on what did happen to them ? Why aren't they qualified ?
It's probably because Millenium was one of teams dropped from last seasons tournament due to finishing in the bottom 2 spots. Since only 4 teams can be in the qualifier, it's probably better to give new teams a chance at getting into the league instead of potentially giving it back to a team that just lost their spot in the tournament.
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So many great teams that deserve to be in this joint...predicting double FXO if not imba/GoSu
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To bad Millenium is not in these qualifiers . They were second last but they made entertainment games with Adel, Stephano and Diestar and almost took out other teams. I think Empire and FXO will make it out of the qualifiers.
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On July 07 2011 10:51 uberism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 10:16 TT1 wrote:On July 07 2011 04:01 kalany wrote:I think realistically Shadow is the only one that can steal games from teams like mouz and EG. Quick question, why didn't teamliquid get the invite or did they respectfully decline? mkengyn is also really good =] underrated player mkengyn is also a very good player indeed. With gosu signing HwangSin, only checksix doesn't have a korean on their roster in the NA division.
Actually Shadow is from Korea going to school here unless he trolled me
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On July 07 2011 15:24 Day000 wrote:To bad Millenium is not in these qualifiers . They were second last but they made entertainment games with Adel, Stephano and Diestar and almost took out other teams. I think Empire and FXO will make it out of the qualifiers.
Yeah, even with half the wins, they tied Evil Geniuses for points(provided the site tally is correct, which it may not be) and they took a lot of teams to the fifth game. Regardless, they'll likely be allowed to re-apply next season if they are willing.
I would personally love to see the league expanded further, perhaps ten teams separated into two groups of five teams each, the top two teams of each group advance to the playoffs. Would allow for a manageable increase in the overall number of teams, just something to consider.
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If their connection is good Empire will rock this league and only Mouz may stop them.
They don't only have incredible players but a 2v2 team as well.
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Are these qualifiers going to be casted?
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On July 08 2011 00:41 uberism wrote:
Are these qualifiers going to be casted?
i was wondering this as well. would love to watch this 
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On July 07 2011 14:34 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 11:49 uberism wrote:On July 07 2011 11:15 -Jacob- wrote:
Who is on ItsGosu? 3 of their players are on the top 10 of the NA ladder right now. Unfortunately the NA ladder is not all that good compared to EU/KR
however none of the NA and EU teams will collide before qualifying so it doesnt matter which ladder is better at this point
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Isn't Reign only 4 players? Also, who is on ESC other than Goody?
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On July 08 2011 11:38 Dexington wrote:
Isn't Reign only 4 players? Also, who is on ESC other than Goody?
There are 5 players...
Also, don't you just need 3 to participate?
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sucks for vVv T_T
and ESC.ICY-BOX whos in this team
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On July 08 2011 11:43 uberism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 11:38 Dexington wrote:
Isn't Reign only 4 players? Also, who is on ESC other than Goody? There are 5 players... Also, don't you just need 3 to participate?
Yeah, technically you would only need three players to be able to meet the requirements of any individual match.
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Alright, that's all well and good. So who is on ESC?
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On July 08 2011 11:49 Dexington wrote:
Alright, that's all well and good. So who is on ESC?
goody, and a few unknowns
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Canada1637 Posts
Any results/are the games gonna be broadcast? O.O
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So Dignitas, Mouz, Fnatic, Complexity and then 4 from the qualifier i.e. Empire, Imba, FXOpen and Reign.
Seems like an obvious EG is missing xD
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Alternate has only 3 players as well (+Mardow but I think he isn't active at all), but they said they will add players in the future.
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On July 12 2011 04:57 Tidus Mino wrote:
So Dignitas, Mouz, Fnatic, Complexity and then 4 from the qualifier i.e. Empire, Imba, FXOpen and Reign.
Seems like an obvious EG is missing xD
Not sure if you're making a joke, but only 2 will qualify to MCS for the next season, 6 teams stay.
Dignitas, Mouz, Fnatic, Complexity, SixJax, EG + Empire\ESC\aTn\imba + x6\gosu\FXO\Reign
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it seems the EU qualifier final is Alternate vs Empire with Empire having 2 wins already (beastyqt > delphi and happy > socke)
dunno if kas vs darkforce (the third match) was already played though
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Russian Federation138 Posts
yep, 3-1 vs alternate in the final phase ^^)
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Yes! Quality matches incoming. I already see them taking the whole thing. :D
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Empire is going to destroy the competition next season... kas, beastyqt, nerchio, happy and then cubert/aristeo as their 2v2 team...
The only team I can see beating them is Mouz. And if thorzain is playing from korea (or not at all) they're going to have a tough time...
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On July 04 2011 23:39 tree.hugger wrote:
Yet two European teams fell out of the series, so Season VI is going to introduce an NA team at the expense of a European slot. Not sure how I feel about that, given that the EU server is universally acknowledged as the more difficult server.
If Empire enters, they will definitely win, (wait, why were they snubbed last season?) but that leaves out MYM, Millenium, Ai, and some other good teams. While the NA qualifier will probably bring in Reign or GoSu, and I can't say I'd expect either of those teams to be favorites against some of the European squads that won't be included.
Why not make this league a twelve team league? Eight teams is too few, twelve would get just about all of the good teams out there, but still have some competition for the final spots. pretty much this. PLUS all the european teams currently fighting for the slot are Teamleague material.
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How can you fault EG for eliminating the 2 lowest ranking teams? It would be terribly unfair to eliminate the lowest ranking NA team if there are 2 weaker european teams (weaker in the sense that they placed lower, not necessarily a weaker team).
Next season it could be that the 2 lowest teams are NA and then they are replaced with 1 NA and 1 european. It could be only european teams in a few seasons. It is just the way they have set it up. And the way it is set up is completely fair to everyone...
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On July 13 2011 06:45 DoomsVille wrote:
How can you fault EG for eliminating the 2 lowest ranking teams? It would be terribly unfair to eliminate the lowest ranking NA team if there are 2 weaker european teams (weaker in the sense that they placed lower, not necessarily a weaker team).
Next season it could be that the 2 lowest teams are NA and then they are replaced with 1 NA and 1 european. It could be only european teams in a few seasons. It is just the way they have set it up. And the way it is set up is completely fair to everyone...
spot on.
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We're excited to announce that both Team Empire and ItsGosu eSports have qualified for Season VI.
Empire's matches
+ Show Spoiler + Team Empire 3:0 ESC.ICY-BOX 1v1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/si.png) Beastyqt 2:0 Rikytan ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ua.png) Kas 2:1 kAra 2v2 Aristeo & cubert 2:0 GoOdy & kArA Team Empire 3:1 Team Alternate 1v1 Beastyqt 2:0 Delphi Happy 2:1 Socke Kas 2:0 DarKFoRcE 2v2 Aristeo & cubert 0:2 Delphi & Socke
GoSu's matches
+ Show Spoiler + ItsGosu eSports 3:2 Reign 1v1 NamchiR 1:2 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/kr.png) Phoenix HwangSin 0:2 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ca.png) Slush Bubbles 2:1 Spades 2v2 Gatored & Kyhol 2:1 Slush & Spades ACE HwangSin 2:1 Slush ItsGosu eSports 3:0 FXOpen 1v1 NamchiR 2:0 OpTiKzErO Gatored 2:0 Oz HwangSin 2:0 QXC
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Woah definitely surprised at the ItsGosu vs FXO result. Nevertheless congrats to Empire and ItsGosu and GL in EGMC
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GG's this qualifier was very difficult. So many good teams.
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Canada1637 Posts
Awesome, big grats to ItsGosu definitely a big underdog, Surprised ReiGN didn't put out Kiwikaki O.O. Either way pumped for S2. Empire definitely a big favourite, they'll be tough  .
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Damn, Nerchio didn't even get play.
Empire will be deadly.
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Nice, empire are going to own up the next season!
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On July 13 2011 12:46 Adebisi wrote:Awesome, big grats to ItsGosu definitely a big underdog, Surprised ReiGN didn't put out Kiwikaki O.O. Either way pumped for S2. Empire definitely a big favourite, they'll be tough .
Seems like he's at the WSOP.....doesn't look good for his odds at MLG if he's doing poker over sc2.
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any replays of the qualifiers?
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On July 13 2011 14:24 FawkingGoomba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 12:46 Adebisi wrote:Awesome, big grats to ItsGosu definitely a big underdog, Surprised ReiGN didn't put out Kiwikaki O.O. Either way pumped for S2. Empire definitely a big favourite, they'll be tough . Seems like he's at the WSOP.....doesn't look good for his odds at MLG if he's doing poker over sc2.
He's kicking ass at WSOP though.
Also he was on stream earlier watching games between Rain and White-Ra so I imagine he's still involved even during the WSOP.
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If the connection from Russia/Ukraine to NA is decent Empire will get at least top 4.
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Alternate would deserve the spot much more then any new NA team...
Empire will rape.
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On July 13 2011 06:45 DoomsVille wrote:
How can you fault EG for eliminating the 2 lowest ranking teams? It would be terribly unfair to eliminate the lowest ranking NA team if there are 2 weaker european teams (weaker in the sense that they placed lower, not necessarily a weaker team).
Next season it could be that the 2 lowest teams are NA and then they are replaced with 1 NA and 1 european. It could be only european teams in a few seasons. It is just the way they have set it up. And the way it is set up is completely fair to everyone...
if you are eliminating the 2 lowest teams regardless of region why are the qualifiers regional?
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Wow,GOSU 3-0ed FXOpen??? And we're wondering why these guys get destroyed in the GSTL.
I'm sad Reign didn't advance,I think they would if they played Kiwi.
Also,the Empire team is beastly,they will be on the next EGMC Finals for sure.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Awesome for Empire and GoSu. Seeing as how FXO was playing for the first time with lag from Korea, it's not surprising that they didn't quite make it. GoSu is really an exciting team to watch, and it'll be exciting to see them play.
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Unfortunately Kiwikaki was in Las Vegas for WSOP (and still is in the main event) when this happened. Obviously its disappointing.
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Aristeo & Cubert lost their match? I can't believe it :O
Must watch the replay
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On July 13 2011 14:16 Dexington wrote:
Damn, Nerchio didn't even get play.
Empire will be deadly.
Yep, Beastyqt Kas Happy and Nerchio. Amazing line up, maybe only "weakness" is that they are Terran heavy
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Surprised to see gosu 3-0 fxo even with lag though tbh.
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Reign and FXO are two great teams. We look forward to playing both of them again down the line in the future. I am ok with always being the underdog, and my guys seem to enjoy playing from that roll.
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I'm looking forward to Empire vs Mouz next Season
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New Masters cup is look sick.
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Sorry to thread necro... but has their been any announcements about when the EGMS is going to start again? Banner on their website says august 1st...
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